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9841


Date: November 19, 2023 at 09:51:45
From: Nicola, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


What is going on now? How did the latest political news
not pass muster?


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9865


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:27:04
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


things which make the moderator angry are not allowed
... that's the rule you violate ... and these days,
nearly anything anyone posts makes the moderator angry
and we should respect that anger ... it was directed at
Trump for so long it was supposed that would last
forever and we could rank on him until eternity ... but
alas, that is no longer so, and now it's mister feet of
clay who is failing us and Trump is fighting for his
life and still the networks pile on and provide grist
for the mill ... no, he was happy talk in lalaland


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9842


Date: November 19, 2023 at 11:51:23
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


you have been escorted out of the building...


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9843


Date: November 19, 2023 at 12:06:38
From: Nicolas, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


What does that even mean? I've been following your FAQ
page, one of the few people who do on a message board
full of trolling and personal attacks. What seems to be
the problem?

Also how do you do that on a message board that doesn't
require a password? Do you just keep deleting the news
articles I share?

If you want a small private message board with you and a
handful of your friends why don't you require
registration and not allow anyone new to register? That
way no one would share topical news articles that might
make you and your friends uncomfortable.


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9844


Date: November 19, 2023 at 12:18:40
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


as moderator of these boards, it is my decision that we do not need a campaign operative on these boards such as yourself...you are not here to discuss issues with the long term members here, you are here to push an agenda, exclusively...so you got the boot...my call...


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9845


Date: November 19, 2023 at 12:52:37
From: Nicole, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


I doubt you really think I'm a campaign operative. As
moderator you probably know how many participants this
little message board has. A few dozen at most? With many
of them into other subjects than politics? And since I
share topical news articles that are published by source
lady approved sources and less than 24 hours old... well
no political operative is just going to share that.

Before I began to participate I observed these same type
of articles, except with a strong left leaning bias and
focusing on Trump. I joined in and worked to use source
lady approved sources and shared the same type of news
articles on President Joe Biden. I was stalked and
trolled by people who I'm not sure even know how to
discuss issues, but I did try. Lord knows I tried to
refocus on the topic and ignore their trolling! Hehe

I think you are smart enough to realize this nation is
turning strongly against Joe Biden and you simply hate
the fact that I'm sharing news articles from highly
credible sources that make this point painfully obvious.


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9866


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:29:12
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


oh, there are many lurkers who never post but who take
the temperature of "feeling" and why the new handle?


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9852


Date: November 19, 2023 at 22:03:01
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


if i have made my judgement in error i apologize...c'est la vie, c'est la guerre...i wish you well...


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:03:55
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


that said, "normal" posters are not able to use 5 different ips/service providers in a couple days to continue to post their shit...


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:55:33
From: VPN, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: protect yourselves online, use a VPN

URL: https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-vpn/


https://www.cnet.com/tech/services-and-software/best-vpn/


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 17:06:16
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: protect yourselves online, use a VPN


good for covering your tracks too!


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Date: November 23, 2023 at 21:54:07
From: Nick, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: protect yourselves online, use a VPN


Exactly! Many, many people are tracking everyone online
and a VPN along with spam blockers is the only safe way
to surf the internet. Most website try to track and
follow you these days.

Everyone should use a VPN to protect themselves online.


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Date: November 23, 2023 at 23:10:57
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: protect yourselves online, use a VPN


right on nick...now take a hike...


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9849


Date: November 19, 2023 at 14:40:46
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


tried to warn you, bopp was never going to let you stay. he likes an echo
chamber. normally when his minions troll the conservative gets the boot
for losing their cool. you dodged their attacks so well they have been
embarrassing themselves trolling and stalking you



some of us lurk or barely post here because of this shit. many others
have been booted. this is not a place that supports the free flow of ideas
or values different views


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9859


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:13:26
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Okay, Old Timer. I know that like Nicola/s and "several
others" here who'll no doubt show up and chime in at some
point, you prefer to try flying a Victim stance here
rather than acknowledge Bopp's always been honest and
clear from the beginning about his guidelines for this
Forum...but what can I say? My incredulity knows no
bounds this morning, and my keen newly-reality-checked
awareness of just how useless my own or anyone else's
words can be has temporarily left me for a moment.

First of all...for the millionth time, anyone who comes
to a clearly not-MAGA/GOP-conservative-/oriented Forum
community (one whose owner reserves the right to boot
what-/whomever offends his sensibilities), and expects
anything BUT confrontation is a fool. End of. Seeing
these folks don that guise and strut around here as if
they're some kind of truthseeking rebel heroes instead of
the whiny babies they're acting like...is one of the
saddest parts of all of this. ;(

Having said that...the number-one booby prize for saddest
comes solely from their grave misuse of words/phrases
like the one used here: "...this is not a place that
supports the *free flow of ideas* or *values different
views*"...

Just a fucking minute here.

If I pasted the bare-bones literal definition of Fascism
here (for the gazillionth time) it'd bounce straight off
the brains of anyone rightwing with seemingly
supernatural force...because they've disappeared its
actual reality and meaning from their brains so as to
fulfill their roles in electing the Fascist GOP so they
can pretend they're safe. So why would I bother? But I
will say this:

The day is late, kiddies. Pretending that the MAGAGOP has
the slightest capacity for participating in *anything*
that offers equal consideration and respect to ANYONE
other than themselves and their minions...in anything
other than the singular expression/implementation of
Fascism, via one of their own here on EB or in bigger
pictures, holds less water than a sieve. "Free flow of
ideas...valuing different views"...LOLOL!!! ;D ...yeah,
as long as they're MAGAGOP toxic idealogies, of course!
Right? lol

Voting any MAGAGOPer into any office that holds any
actual influence or power over the people, in general,
translates to their not only condoning but agreeing with
and supporting all the following things, and a few more I
can't even think about right now or my fingers will
explode:

White Nationalism, meaning you see the White race as
superior over NonWhites and, as such, more deserving of
all God-/Constitution-/Bill-of-Rights-mandated Freedoms
and Rights than NonWhites...

The elimination of women's rights to healthcare in all
its forms, including abortion, and the literal reversal,
by means of the misapplication of an antiquated,
compartmentalized faction of White Fundamentalist
Christianb Religion, of equal rights for women ACROSS THE
BOARD...

The elimination of all forms of financial assistance to
anyone in need...FOR ANY REASON...utilizing and elevating
the evil of so-called Christian "prosperity
consciousness" as rule of law...in other words, if god
didn't give it to you in life, and your family won't help
you, and you're unable to give it to yourself, fuck you.
You're useless-eater trash for us.

The elimination of everyone's right to believe, think,
lead their lives and their respective unique sexualities,
find happiness, in any way that differs from Christian
Fundamentalist values and beliefs...EVEN THOUGH IT HURTS
NO ONE ELSE FOR THEM TO DO SO.

NONE OF THESES THINGS DESCRIBED ABOVE ARE "DIFFERENT
VIEWS" nor do they bring a "free flow of *ideas.*" They
are intentions of evil, of divisive ego-posturing White
males scrambling to be The Biggest Dick on the Block Who
RULES All, instead of working toward everything That
Embraces ALL...of feigned, intentional ignorance of the
most basic of universal truths of cooperation and
interdependence being facts of life on Earth, that we're
all here together whether anyone "likes" being with those
they differ with or not..

NOTHING of this MAGAGOP thinly-veiled rationalized,
justified disrespect and hatred could ever remotely
resemble or participate in any "free flow of ideas"...nor
does it qualify in my book as "a different VIEW"..."view"
of the ugliest that exists in humanity, maybe...but we've
had that defined for us by them quite well enough I
think.......... And while I'd still give my life for any
one of them, and their rights to believe as they do...I'd
also give my life if it could prevent their taking/having
the slightest iota of control over another human being...

In case you've chosen to be blind to it, these are NOT
"the old days" here on EB, but not for the reasons you
all whine on about... Now, we have actual human beings
trying to disappear entire realms of history, of human
rights and freedoms guaranteed to All in this country's
inception, ALL WITH IMPUNITY...trying to remake this
country into a prison for everyone but a chosen White,
Wealthy, Fundamentalist/Catholic/Christian few...which
calls for those whose hearts, humanities and consciences
remain unpossessed by this evil to speak more loudly than
ever before...

But the laugh...at such exhaustive lengths being gone to,
in the effort to portray yourselves other than you
are...that was GOOD. Thanks for that.


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9878


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:04:46
From: triggered, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Wow


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:30:06
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


LOL..

No you're not... Just another way to diss the *trigger*
term that you identify with liberalism... ;D

Not even a good try.




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9871


Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:18:33
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


where did bopp say nicola couldn't post from cnn and politico if it didn't
make lefties look good? the rules mean nothing here. many of us just lurk
or have left altogether because of this shit. many others have been given
the boot just for disagreeing


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:25:10
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


1. Where did bopp say nicola couldn't post from cnn and
politico if it didn't make lefties look good?

NOWHERE did he say that. But you know that. This is just
another juvenile spitwad attempt to invalidate Mr. Bopp's
right to delete what isn't palatable to him. Listing each
instance when he's deleted something you didn't
appreciate him deleting cannot change that, old timer.
Promise.

Mr. Bopp's guidelines mean exactly what they say they
mean, and it's not Nothing, Those of you who take such
frenzied issue with his guidelines do yourselves no
favors whining about them and verbally hatcheting him,
and us, rather than going where your "views and values"
are welcome, where Fascism doesn't offend the minds and
hearts of human beings...


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:46:44
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


earlier you said bopp was honest and clear. as someone who has been
here a long time i know what is allowed so i don't bother. but it doesn't
say that anywhere and no one has the balls to say what is and isn't
allowed. the rules page makes this forum sound like a place for on topic
discussion with no personal attacks. that alone tricks people.



this bs keeps happening because the rules say one thing and bopp rules
this place completely different. he should make clear what is allowed.
possibly rename the forum bopp's hangout for lefties so this shit doesn't
keep happening



this place has changed so much


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 17:05:27
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


for the most part i don't have the time or inclination to deal with the crap that gets posted here daily...so my bad...boo hoo...i figure all you "old timers" know each other well enough that i don't need to babysit your interactions...friendly banter i call it...but when someone new comes in i do take notice and try to discern what they are all about...been on the web doing this for a long time and i can spot a ringer pretty easily...


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Date: November 21, 2023 at 07:56:27
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


at least be honest with the few of us left. you always find time to delete
posts and join in messing with people. the constant personal attacks and
disrespectful way some are treated are not friendly banter. you know that



and be honest about nicola. it didn't matter who posted those articles
red was gonna stalk and troll them and you were going to join in and
eventually boot them. stevie wonder could see that was coming.


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Date: November 21, 2023 at 10:04:52
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


except, you aren't listening to Bopp... This poster
wasn't ejected for their articles, or their ideology.
Bopp has digital information as the board owner we
can't see. There was something "up" with this poster on
the tech end that wasn't normal.

Bopp was protecting the channel. And, it's "his"
channel.

He's protecting you, too.

There are posters here that go back and forth
politically and even personally that don't have those
signatures.

You get a pro-operative in here, suddenly someone can
dox, plant viruses, or do take advantage of the members
of this board in other ways.

Bopp's not stupid, and tech saavy. If he says there was
something not above board with this person, then I
trust his expertise on this matter.

You know me, if it's just about arguing..I can do that
all day. That wasn't it.

Thanks, Bopp, for keeping the channel safe for the rest
of us to "banter" or share info on the topics of the
day. He's been more than fair and patient with us all.


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Date: November 21, 2023 at 10:36:17
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


i'm listening to bopp, i'm just not believing that shit. that's why i asked
him to be honest with the few of us left, but that's not very likely



isn't there someone you should be stalking and trolling? oops, obviously i
meant banter, that insulting, degrading banter that happens here too
often


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Date: November 21, 2023 at 11:12:10
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Well, the only time I see you post is when you're
trolling me or complaining or insulting and degrading me
or another poster or bopp. That's all I've seen from you.

So, remove the log in your own eye before you complain
about the motes in everyone else's.

Post an article or opinion on the topic now and then, not
just attacking posters.


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Date: November 21, 2023 at 11:41:15
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


been a long time since I shared much here. back in the days when we
could share here without people like you trolling and attacking. back
when asshole behavior was limited to liaho. these days i only share
places where i won't be trolled and harassed


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Date: November 22, 2023 at 04:27:43
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Aymen and Ahmen.
Precisely why I don't share on these boards, either.
Especially avoid Personal after asking for good
thoughts/prayers some years back for my mother in ICU
who we weren't certain was going to live. I was attacked
by certain posters who said her condition was my fault
for criticizing Isreal! I believe at least two of these
individuals are still at EB. Go there, share anywhere?
Hell, no. Don't need the hate, nastiness, vitriol,
snitty, snotty snarkiness.
Yes, EB didn't used to be this way.
No wonder folks leave.


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Date: November 22, 2023 at 09:50:16
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


it still shocks me those who justify attacking other posters because of
their politics. attacks that are supported by bopp and others. kinda shitty
but it is what it is


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Date: November 22, 2023 at 11:17:16
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


What shocks me, old timer, is how absurd it is that those
whose "politics" are about *nothing but attacking the
rights and freedoms of others* get all self-righteously
indignant when their values of violence and inhumane
divisiveness are called out for what they are, *in
kind*...from the same exact type of defensive-attacking-
BACK they were hit with, FIRST, by those violent politics
trying to create Fascism here...

Kinda like little bully gangs that do nothing but go
around provoking fights...and then when they mistakenly
target some kids who look vulnerable but turn out to pack
far more retaliative energy than they were expecting,
then scream for the Adults and try to claim that "they
started it"...

Kinda shitty, but that's how so many MAGAGOPers are...


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Date: November 22, 2023 at 13:53:27
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


don't think chatillon needed an example of what I was talking about but
thanks anyway


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Date: November 22, 2023 at 15:59:26
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


To characterize what I said as being an example of what you
were talking about is...patently ridiculous, old timer.
It's nothing of the kind. This is just you randomly
spazzing at my words, because you don't like them.

But hey, you're welcome anyway.


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9910


Date: November 22, 2023 at 08:05:03
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


CC, anyone who would say your mother's condition was your
fault, for any reason...save your having actually taken
her life...is obviously operating from a very confused
place. Kinda like preachers espousing how certain events
are to be blamed upon people being fallen in their faith,
supporting things and people they shouldn't, etc.

Sure do get how just one thing happening like that --
especially that, specifically -- would incline you away
from ever posting anything personal here. Absolutely.

By my lights, as is the case with other conservatives
here what you're actually more upset about is that you
can't change Mr. Bopp's *personal orientation in what is
palatable to him,* as per his stated guidelines, and the
fact that that, alone, is what every post's destiny here
pivots upon. If I were a MAGAGOPer, I'd probably be
annoyed too! But would I rail against his choices as if
he were denying me the right to self-expression as a
human being on Earth, as if he'd personally gagged me?
Berating him for his choice to go with his own
sensibilities in creating this site's boundaries? lol Um,
no...and doing so doesn't put any of you in any good
light...

Hate, nastiness, vitriol, snitty snotty snarkiness are
literally the hallmarks of the MAGAGOP's stances,
chatillon...and I'll add self-righteous false moral
entitlement to that list, and stop there. Some of us have
chosen to hold bright palm mirrors right up to that
Fascist bully energy (mine being notoriously charged, for
sure), offer it right back in the hopes that, feeling it
come upside their heads as it can only do, might have the
notion to rethink their casual violence toward all who
don't agree with them...

Aymen and Ahmen.


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9879


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:14:08
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


You just don't read, do you, old timer?

Regardless of how YOU FEEL about how Mr. Bopp configures
his guidelines, it's his site to run as he wishes. The
rules, in one specific place, says literally: "If a post
disappears or is 'edited' it means the poster requested
such, or, it didn't pass muster as to what is palatable
to the moderator."

.........................!SO!.........................

If you don't feel amenable with posting as you please, if
you're new, then watching to see if it gets deleted or
not, to know whether or not it "passed muster" as
"palatable" to the owner of the site, then...off with
you! Eh? To a site that does not have these guidelines
that so offend the living daylights out of you! Right?

How's that FEEL, old timer? Having boundaries placed
around what's palatable to voice on a person's sovereign
owned website? HOW DO YOU THINK IT FEELS, LET ALONE WHAT
IT SAYS ABOUT MAGAGOPers, THAT YOU AND YOUR PARTY ARE OUT
TO SILENCE THE VOTES AND VOICES OF MILLIONS OF NONWHITE
HUMAN BEINGS??? You're in such a righteous snit about
THIS, HERE...lol...what would you do, I wonder, were YOUR
rights threatened to the degree so many other's are, by
the MAGAGOP... Yeah...I don't have to wonder...

Even if Ryan characterized/presented this place as a
Leftwise Forum...which wouldn't be accurate, BTW...that
wouldn't even put a dent in your M.O.! ;D Sorry pal,
we're not that slow...lol...you act like juveniles about
this, at the cost of making fools of yourselves, because
it's the only way you can show up anymore... That's how
it is when you have nothing worthy or substantive with
which to defend your party...



Nooooooooooooooooooo...you have to have your babyfit,
scream and yell as if you were being ACTUALLY hurt and
victimized, instead of your having a hissyfit over a
moderator's STATED GUIDELINES in his Forum that you
object to..................

And anyone who doesn't feel equal to flowing with How
Things Are Here...in other words, if you disagree with
stated guidelines and your only reason for remaining is
trying to appear superior in your truthseeking by
disregarding them...you might want to reconsider the age
you're portraying yourself as...

I've told you precisely how, and why, this place has
"changed so much"...and it has far more to do with
MAGAGOPers like you threatening everything we've attained
in humanitarian progressive evolution trying to create a
One World Fascist Government outpost here, in this
country... End OF.


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9881


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:26:29
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Woops...lol...two separate sections in the above...


...of which the bottom section should've been deleted...
*eyeroll*

True! I'm literally beside myself here, trying to
configure words that can even BEGIN to translate how
quantumly absurd rightwinger's issues with how Mr. Bopp
runs his site actually are...and how we who endlessly
endure Fascist MAGAGOP insanity trying to present itself
here as worthy, as valid, as "differing VIEWS" and an
"open exchange of ideas"............ ~!!!~

Yep. It's broken my wordmaking/verbal-compositional
brain. This normalized campaign for Fascism is more than
anyone with functional sanity can bear, so often...guess
I should be grateful my soul hasn't bolted from this
body, leaving it shed on the ground in dismay for where
it finds itself in history...lol..


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9880


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:19:04
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Old times barely posts at all and he stated why. Your post was very
informative however. Says a lot about u. No words


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9886


Date: November 20, 2023 at 13:10:49
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


it does reveal a lot about her


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9882


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:27:41
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


"Your post was very informative however. Says a lot about
u. No words."

Good! Heed them well...


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9851


Date: November 19, 2023 at 19:14:57
From: Nicolas, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


You and several others did try to warn me, but I knew I
wouldn't lose my temper. This is just a strange message
board. Someone recently accused me of gaslighting,
although I had already learned that people here seem to
desperately need a dictionary for modern slang.
Ironically Earthboppin seems to be a community of
gaslighting where a few people think if they can prevent
news that disagrees with their beliefs and belittle the
few conservatives and independents they allow to stay
around their little reality will be of substance. A few
of these people are in for a rude reality check in the
near future! Hehe


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9867


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:29:58
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


there is no future here ... and one handle per customer


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9868


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:42:10
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


i blocked its old handle so it persists with new ones...


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9869


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:51:55
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


I find it strange but not surprising that people who try to insist they are
above the fray, lie and cheat when told to stay off the board, changing
names and name spellings to get posted. Ironic isn’t it? They think we
haven’t seen through them all along for their choices of an immoral man
and immoral actions, support of propaganda and true fascist modeling?
And now they are blatant? Last vestige of their impossible mission? To
deceive and act as provocateurs?


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9870


Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:07:07
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Just pointing out the ridiculous situation. The unfairness when someone
follows the rules. The dictator of this site should just be honest and
admit it’s a left wing site only.


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9874


Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:26:28
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


How about a site that chooses truth over misinformation? We’ve seen
what happens when a political party (republicans) choose to support an
immoral leader and his lies and criminality. Those of us who fought
against that with truth and facts have watched Trump indicted 91 times as
a felon. Cases are moving through the courts supporting our viewpoints.
Seems logical to think that our other supported by facts opinions will be
found right in the end as well. We are middle of the road democrats
independents and republicans who do not support extremism, either from
the right of left. Extremism is a cancerous leaching of all that is good. to
bring down those who are (fair and good and inclusive to diversity in all
directions). White supremacists, fascists and antisemites can’t stand
that. Watch what is happening in Argentina. They have just voted in their
own “Trump.”


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9884


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:35:53
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Truth is in the eye of the beholder. All Nicola was doing was posting poll
numbers that the entire media was reflecting. That put bopp over the
edge. He/she barely mentioned Trump in other aspects.


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9885


Date: November 20, 2023 at 12:57:17
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Exactly. Ignore Trump and emasculate his competitor. Media is doing the
same. (More profit for them.) Those with discernment see it. Those who
are honest call it out.


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9887


Date: November 20, 2023 at 13:13:57
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


so you agree nicola's posts accurately reflected what the media is
saying? and that is why she needed to be silenced? wtf?


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9889


Date: November 20, 2023 at 13:33:32
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


No. I am saying discernment needs to be used. A war on truth is an
insidious malignancy. Used by many characters for their own agendas,
adding to the chaos. We are past a tipping point old timer. Is this the world
you truly want for your children? Falling into fascism by enemies of truth?
Be honest with yourself and answer that. Look into the innocent eyes of
children and imagine what this war on truth will do to their lives. The world
it creates. Swear about that.


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9890


Date: November 20, 2023 at 13:58:51
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


discernment on our own is good, but it sounds like you are trying to
come up with reasons that you or bopp or someone else should do the
discerning. i don't need to look into anyone's eyes to know i can discern
things for myself. censorship is bad, what part of that don't you
understand?


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9893


Date: November 20, 2023 at 14:25:16
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


And your children and the war on truth old timer? No one ever speaks to
that. Always turning away and trying to find a point to argue. Damaging
the depth of humanity.
People used to have honor, integrity and honesty as their core. Or they
strove for it. Now, we watch as foundational institutions like Congress
crumble under the weight of their lies and aligning themselves with a
leader who is now criminally indicted. They pile on with lies about Biden
and arguments between posters. Not arguments about facts and
information. But a steady drum of pulling down the other side while giving
weight to a Trump nomination. So all those people would like their
children to emulate Trump? Lie like Trump? Cheat like Trump? Destroy like
Trump. People need to get real and find truth within themselves.

It is not censorship to ask for information that is vetted and factual.
Posters here have refused for years relying and continuing to use internet
news sources and blogs and YouTube no different than TikTok that have
been proven to be agenda driven and propelled by propaganda.

Bopp needs no reason to ask and expect people to be truthful here and
post facts not propaganda. This is not a new message. Since you say
you’ve been here reading, you know this.


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9894


Date: November 20, 2023 at 14:40:48
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


my children don't need you discerning things for them either. you are
trying to make an emotional argument because you can't logically
support the censorship you want. we literally just saw someone booted
for posting mainstream news articles just because they showed people
don't like biden. everyone already new that. this morning's news was full
of more stories about biden's unpopularity and they will probably talk
about that tomorrow and the next day too.




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9899


Date: November 20, 2023 at 16:11:15
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


I notice you don’t offer any logical debate about unvetted misinformation
sources. I tried to discuss the obvious faulty mechanisms that polls have
had since the last two elections and didn’t get answers there either from
the ousted poster. . Just the continuous posts of polling one after another
for weeks. The premise that polls can tell us anything after their recent
failures is faulty at best. Purposeful misinformation as probable.

It isn’t discernment by me for your children. It is factual that leadership
from a man who lies and commits criminal acts is not the kind of example
children need from their parents. Or the example of Republican leadership
in deep disarray surrounded by their own lies. That’s fact. We have been
eye witnesses. I can logically support that.


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9900


Date: November 20, 2023 at 16:19:42
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


I would suggest that all of Nicola’s approved sources were vetted. Bopp
is simply disgusting. Site will get pretty boring with no opposite
opinions. He and ao on the same page.

Many ‘children ‘are waking up to left policies. They may not approve of
trump but they are starting to turn from the left. Two of my kids said
they would plug their noses and vote for Trump.


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 16:37:43
From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Vote for a criminally indicted felon? Really? That’s a lot of “plugging.”

A note to all…the media has sold out. Journalists have sold out. If you run
by agenda instead of discernment of truth, you will not find your way out
of the mire at this time. Talk about swamp! Just pay attention to the words
they use to tell you “facts.” They are not facts cushioned by “it is
assumed” “people think” “it is possible” and so on. Those are used to
cover themselves reporting without vetting thoroughly. It is now done all
the time by both verbal and printed media :(


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9891


Date: November 20, 2023 at 14:13:11
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Censorship? BS! You're using the wrong word... all folks are doing here is
calling out lies. And your use of the word censorship is one of them.


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9895


Date: November 20, 2023 at 14:49:23
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


why did you pop up out of nowhere 6-7 years ago and why do you make
no effort to follow bopp's rules? do you just enjoy treating people
disrespectfully and in real life you've never been able to get away with
acting like this?


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9896


Date: November 20, 2023 at 15:02:57
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Hey OT, I'm just pointing out that you're calling culling lies censorship, and that
is a lie. Bopp doesn't censor (in fact he's incredibly tolerant) he's just trying to
keep the lies to a minimum. The humbug is the GOP doesn't have anything else
but lies anymore. So, if a so called "conservative" (they aren't conservative
anymore are they?) goes on about their lies as if they are somehow not lies..
well I for one am glad he is doing what he can to keep that nonsense out of the
discussion.


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9897


Date: November 20, 2023 at 15:25:38
From: old timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


not a halfwit who believes that bs. you've been calling mainstream news
from left leaning places as lies cause you don't want to hear it. are you
the most dishonest person here ao? or do you just have a room temp iq?
either way it is wrong the way you call anything you don't want to believe
culling lies and treat anyone who doesn't agree with you like shit


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 15:38:32
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Face it OT, the GOP is bankrupt. They have nothing left but lies. If you believe
them, well then you're confused, and might even be thinking some of those
lies deserve to be believed. Which they don't. It really is that simple. The GOP
has nothing left but lies. Lies we, society, must weed out if we are to get
anywhere.. and thankfully Bobb tries to keep them to a minimum.. while
respecting those that are lost in them and allowing them a chance to work
that out..

And still, if you believe the GOP nonsense, you have to know in the end
there's no room for any of their lies.. sorry.


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9876


Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:48:44
From: old timer , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


still pushing for censorship?


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9888


Date: November 20, 2023 at 13:28:44
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Censorship?

You do realize the GOP doesn't promote policies anymore, but instead all they do
is lie, right? Censoring ideas, such as spend more or less, doesn't happen here..
censoring lies, well thank god someone is trying to temper their flow.. otherwise
the so called right would overwhelm these boards with their hate.. day in day out,
they'd drown all of us in their hostile mindless gibberish.

The GOP has not had a policy, not stated a plan for the national wellbeing, in
years. All the GOP does is lie. Spew out of their ass, play slight of hand, utter bs
and then steal everything that's not bolted down. So yeah, I am glad, grateful,
folks like Red and Bopp do what they're inspired to do to keep the flow of ideas
here grounded in facts.. in the truth.

And I think folks who whine about censorship to cover their own shortcomings
should have a light shined on their pilikia as soon as they post.. every single time.

As to "Nicola", I've never seen any reason to think "she's" not a bot..


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9872


Date: November 20, 2023 at 11:18:42
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Well, Karen...lol...what I find most ridiculous is that
anyone with the slightest functional mind would be able
to EASILY SEE, by simple observation, EXACLY which types
of posts, the energy and material in them that does NOT,
despite a fuse that seems to go around the Earth a few
times, pass muster as *palatable* to him (clearly &
honestly stated by him!), thus qualifying them for
deletion. I've seen hundreds of what'd be termed
"conservative posts" left entirely alone by him for many,
many years...and so would you, had you the inclination to
look and actually choose to *see* it...lol... But no, you
have to pretend that this isn't obvious...

This ain't no mystery, madam...lololol..neither is why
you guys have no resort but to pretend that it IS a
mystery...!

But hey, spin on! lol


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9856


Date: November 20, 2023 at 09:10:08
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Nickolas, I'm very sorry to see this happen, but I could
see the writing on the wall from the very first. I
admire how you did so well in dodging the flack and
following the rules while keeping your cool. Too many
folks like you have been blocked by Bopp, given up or
run off by the pack. Conservatism isn't welcome here.
Neither can a real look at and alternate reporting of
situations be tolerated--especially if it is not what
some want to hear. Sadly, it didn't used to be like
this.
You will certainly be missed by some of us.
I wish you well.


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9857


Date: November 20, 2023 at 09:19:00
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


i have no problem with thoughtful and logically presented conservatism...i do have a problem with willful ignorance and uncontrolled bloviation...


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9862


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:21:22
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


So that’s ur new rule. Thoughtful and logical. Not one of them w pass
the smell test with you.


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9863


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:22:24
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


y'all are quite odious...lol...


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9864


Date: November 20, 2023 at 10:23:05
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


they have been ranking on Trump for so long they can't
take a little heat from the other side when their
paragon of virtue has feet of clay and has no clothing
to speak of and bumble farts our lives away


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9854


Date: November 20, 2023 at 05:27:32
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?



Wish you well Nicolas...
take care,
truly
~Eve


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9853


Date: November 20, 2023 at 05:01:35
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


You and your "What? Who, me?" bullshit persona, and your
intentions, have been transparent since you first
appeared, "Nicola/s"...and the only thing more ridiculous
than your relentless charades here is the fact that, like
you and "several others," you roll out these flagrantly
victimesque indictments of Mr. Bopp (and ourselves) AS IF
THE REALITY/TRAJECTORY AND BOUNDARIES OF HIS FORUM
WEREN'T MADE PERFECTLY CLEAR FROM THE BEGINNING.

Ignoring this doesn't do much for your appearing
intelligent as you seem to imagine it does. Quite the
opposite. You could have chosen to behave like an adult
and acknowledge this place's up-front-stated
REALITY...that Mr. Bopp's values/ethics/sensibilities,
what he personally finds tasteful/distasteful, ARE AND
WILL ALWAYS BE THE BOTTOM LINE HERE...and found yourself
a Forum with guidelines your nature and orientation
prefers, if you found this one so distasteful! But
noooo...instead, like these "several others," you pretend
that these boundaries were never made clear as a bell to
everyone and, like a tiny child (or a MAGAGOPer), you
stomp and whine VICTIMHOOD that this Forum won't let you
post outside those boundaries. If your neighbor put a
sign on their door that said, "No visitors before 10 AM,"
would you purposely bang on their door at 8? If you could
read? You might just, going by you act out here...lol...

Apparently you're one of several who've been seemingly
deprived of whatever basic verbal-comprehension gene is
responsible for acknowledging realities and stated
boundaries you wish didn't exist. Again: What liberal
would expect to go to a right-leaning Forum and expect
their posts to be well received??? lol

You are infinitely qualified for your role as a GOPer,
though, I'll give you that! Bumble on! lol


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Date: November 20, 2023 at 05:41:00
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Whew! Reading too many First Belly Laughs of the Morning today!


Coming in all at once! Whatever will I do? lololol ;D ;D ;D


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9846


Date: November 19, 2023 at 13:45:07
From: Karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


You followed all the rules. Red and others will miss sparing with you.
Only one opinion is allowed on this site. Anyone with a brain is kicked
off. Try political Hotwire. They allow all points of view. U remind me of
another good person. Grz. My only hope at this point is that trump wins
and I get to see them lick their wounds.


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9850


Date: November 19, 2023 at 19:00:05
From: Nicolas, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why are the news articles I share vanishing from National?


Thank you Karen. And I suppose these people must be your
friends, but the way they constantly disrespect you is
shocking. At minimum I would recommend ignoring the guy
who insults everyone. Stay strong and stick to your
beliefs, no matter how they talk down to and belittle
you.


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