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Date: December 05, 2024 at 14:02:15
From: Curly Bear, [DNS_Address]
Subject: OK, this is weird: Dec. 5: 7.0 quake offshore Santa Cruz, CA |
URL: Burned cars trying to evacuate Lahani fire |
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At 11:45pm this morning (Dec.
5) I saw online an announcement
of a Tsunami warning from a 7.0
quake in California. I quickly
logged into my email where I
get earthquake & tsunami
warning messages. The first
message I opened (from the
Pacific Tsunami Warning Center,
iirc) stated that the 7.0 quake
(depth was 8 miles) was 24(+-)
miles offshore from Santa Cruz,
California and evacuations had
been ordered for the town of
Davenport (which is directly on
the coast), located 10 miles
North of Santa Cruz.
I read this email message twice
to make sure I didn't misread
it, then ran into the living
room to check the live news
reports, which stated that a
7.0 quake occurred offshore of
Petrolia in Northern
California. HUH?? I quickly
rechecked my email and there
was NO tsunami warning email
for Davenport/Santa Cruz! There
were only warnings for Northern
California.
Premonition, message from
Spirit perhaps? I don't know,
this is a first for me.
Nevertheless, STAY THE WATCH,
my friends.
One thing I saw on the live
news coverage really disturbed
me: on San Francisco's Ocean
Beach Pacific Coast Highway,
vehicles attempting to get away
from the coast were moving
slow, bumper-to-bumper along
only ONE lane of the highway at
12:05pm--and the tsunami was
projected to hit at
12:10pm(!!). The police had the
highway's Northbound lane
cleared of cars while the
Southbound lane was bumper-to-
bumper, damn! Had the tsunami
hit there would have been
hundred of deaths.
For all you folks living along
the coast, you won't be able to
evacuate via your rural
highways/roads, since the roads
will be instantly gridlocked.
Plan NOW for alternate
evacuation routes to high
ground--cut fences (this is
what survivors of the
Camp/Paradise did)--and tie the
cut portions of the fence with
thin wire, so you can drive
your vehicle through it
effortlessly (and another
reason: no one will notice your
modifications to the fences. It
goes without saying, in the
event of a mass evacuation
order, the 'ell with any No
Trespassing sign!). This will
help those of you who live
along the coastal areas.
One last note, then I'll get
off my soapbox: when/if you're
evacuating by car, remember
that the police are under
orders to keep open ALL lanes
of incoming traffic ("To allow
for emergency vehicles"-- which
are NOT needed until AFTER the
disaster, otherwise emergency
personnel are being sent to
their deaths) instead of
opening ALL lanes to evacuee
traffic. They pulled this c**p
during the Camp/Paradise fire
(where many folks were
unfortunately incinerated), the
Oroville Dam evacuation, and
during the Lahaina fire in
Hawaii.
Here's a challenge for you: go
see your local Chief of Police,
and ask them this question, "In
the case of a disaster and an
evacuation is ordered, WHAT
AGENCY controls the
roads/highways?" (in other
words, what agency gives the
Chief his/her marching orders).
And then ask them why don't
they open all the traffic lanes
for evacuees??" Their response
ought to be revealing. Do this
research NOW, you won't have
the luxury of time later.
~Peace!
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Date: December 05, 2024 at 16:53:47
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK, this is weird: Dec. 5: 7.0 quake offshore Santa Cruz, CA |
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i thought davenport was north of fort bragg...maybe there are 2 cuz i remember the davenport north of santa cruz too...just a feed mill and a gas station if i remember...
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Date: December 05, 2024 at 17:02:45
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK, this is weird: Dec. 5: 7.0 quake offshore Santa Cruz, CA |
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it is westport north of ft bragg
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Date: December 05, 2024 at 20:52:29
From: Curly Bear, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Westport: Davenport = A Tale of Two Towns |
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Thanks, Ryan. I'm wondering if the Pacific Tsunami Center's AI (artificial intelligence) computer program screwed up...this certainly seems plausible.
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Date: December 06, 2024 at 11:36:13
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Westport: Davenport = A Tale of Two Towns |
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I have family in that area. There was no large quake
offshore Santa Cruz. Santa Cruz and Davenport were
mentioned in the origial tsunami warning (which was
cancelled) calling for the west coast warning area
"down" to Davenport/Santa Cruz on the south end of the
warning area.
Yeah, I think some people ..or computers, were pretty
mixed up.
There was one main quake..it was offshore Petrolia on
the Mendocino fracture and has has many minor
aftershocks (as is expected for a 7.0).
Hubby was watching a news show (one of the ABC/CBS/NBC
main stream channels) and said they told the audience
there were two big quakes.
I had to show him the quake map to reassure him.
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Date: December 06, 2024 at 12:51:59
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Westport: Davenport = A Tale of Two Towns |
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initially usgs did show 2 quakes...a six onshore, and a 6.3 offshore...then within 15 minutes or so changed it to a 7 offshore...
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Date: December 09, 2024 at 09:47:09
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Westport: Davenport = A Tale of Two Towns |
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yeah..sounds like a computer/seismo glitch. could be a
ghost quake. Seismographs very close to the epicenter
sometimes get confused. It's a little like trying to
determine the direction of the wind from the middle of
a whirlwind (or in a 7 or 8 mag quake, the middle of a
hurricane).
Sometimes a more distant station will mistakenly
determine a strong distant quake as a closer moderate
quake and a second quake (ghost quake). These are
usually reviewed, revised and eventually removed from
the map.
That's why we still need seismologists to double check
readings and data coming in and correct. The first
readings are almost always "off", but are sent out by
computer warning systems in strong quakes to alert
emergency agencies who need to know a strong quake has
just happened, and where to activate first responders
if large enough...they sort out the details later.
Best to give the scientist a full day to revise a
preliminary quake. Sometimes, in the case of very large
quakes, it can take a week or month to settle on a
magnitude when more data is available. As aftershocks
fill in the rupture zone, they get a better idea of how
much ground actually moved, how deep, long and
wide....and the eventual energy released magnitude.
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