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Date: October 08, 2024 at 14:56:10
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oklahoma Educ. Super. tries to put Trump Bibles in every class |
URL: https://apnews.com/article/oklahoma-bible-schools-trump-amend-99bec8ed6b67acd2d836913783c4fe7b |
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Oklahoma amends request for Bibles that initially
appeared to match only version backed by Trump
Oklahoma Superintendent of Public Instruction Ryan
Walters speaks during a special state Board of
Education meeting, April 12, 2023, in Oklahoma City.
By KEN MILLER
Updated 10:30 AM CDT, October 8, 2024
OKLAHOMA CITY (AP) — Oklahoma has amended its request
for 55,000 Bibles to be placed in public schools that
initially matched a version of the holy book endorsed
by former President Donald Trump.
The request was amended Monday and no longer requires
the Bibles to include U.S. historical documents such as
the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution —
requirements that match the “God Bless the USA Bible”
that Trump endorsed this year and that are several
times more expensive than similar Bibles that don’t
include the U.S. documents.
The new request says the historical documents may be
included together or separately and extends the
deadline for offers to supply the items by one week,
from Oct. 14 to Oct. 21.
The request is part of State Superintendent Ryan
Walters’ efforts to require Bibles in public school
classrooms, which has been met with resistance by some
of Oklahoma’s largest school districts.
Walters, in a Monday video on X, said the Bible will be
used “because of its historical significance throughout
this nation’s history,” blaming what he called the
“fake news media” for lies about the program.
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 15:37:27
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oklahoma Educ. Super. tries to put Trump Bibles in every class |
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We have some grown kids with young grandkids there and
no one asked them.
They are not happy. And yes, they're Christians...but
don't feel it's the public school system's job to take
up their training for them (or anyone else's kids).
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Date: October 08, 2024 at 21:46:43
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oklahoma Educ. Super. tries to put Trump Bibles in every class |
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Oh, yes. And to define the parameters of the Bible to
include only, *only* the trump Bible is a millions
dollar gift to trump, it's nothing to do with religion.
I'm curious how "Christian" Ryan Walters will profess
now his plan to funnel millions to trump has been
thwarted.
His administration is rife with suspect deals with out
of state charter schools, (lousy) Christian school
designed textbooks, and others. Private schools love
him as he has pushed for vouchers, choice, and denied
free lunches, channeled money to private schools over
public schools.
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Date: October 09, 2024 at 09:24:11
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
URL: https://thehill.com/homenews/education/4922340-oklahoma-trump-bibles-schools-classrooms-ryan-walters/ |
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...will schools comply?
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Here's a followup, mitra...farces within farces, omg...
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Oklahoma is shifting its requirements for which Bibles
will be put in classrooms in the face of criticism that
it was essentially feeding the contract to former
President Trump, while districts across the state are
still refusing to even abide by the mandate.
Though he has threatened consequences for those who don’t
comply, State Superintendent Ryan Walters has apparently
been too busy fighting another controversy regarding
which Bibles will be chosen to implement any punishments.
“I can tell you that the majority of schools in my area
are not adhering to his ‘mandate’. I have heard that
there are several schools in far southeast Oklahoma that
are doing it because their school boards are wanting to
do it — not because of the mandate,” said Lee Northcutt,
superintendent of Caddo Public Schools.
Over the summer, Walters released mandatory guidance on
how to incorporate lessons about Christianity and the
Bible into K-12 education, threatening consequences for
any school that refused to comply.
“I will not hesitate to use every option available to
ensure Oklahoma students get the best education
possible,” Walters said when reached for comment.
However, none of those consequences have come to
fruition.
“There’s no punishments or threats or anything else. He
continues to say that we will do it when the law clearly
says that he does not have the authority to make us do
that,” said Rob Miller, superintendent of Bixby Public
Schools. “Yeah, it would be a district-by-district
decision.”
On Friday, The Oklahoman reported an eyebrow-raising
wrinkle: The state criteria for the Bibles were so
narrowly tailored — King James version, bound in leather
or leather-like material and, most unusually, including
the U.S. Constitution, the Pledge of Allegiance and
Declaration of Independence — that the only ones found to
qualify were those endorsed by Trump.
After that reporting, the Oklahoma Department of
Education’s request for proposals (RFP) was amended
Monday to say a publisher did not have to provide all the
documents under one book.
“The left-wing media hates Donald Trump so much, and they
hate the Bible so much, they will lie and go to any means
necessary to stop this initiative from happening,”
Walters said in a video on X.
The fight in Oklahoma may be coming to a tipping point as
many superintendents in the state have made clear they
feel Walters is just trying to insert a Christian
education into public schools while civil rights
organizations keep a close eye on the state and others
that may want to mimic Walters’s move.
“The Bible does have a limited role in particular
concepts. But again, we’re talking about purchasing
Bibles for every single classroom,” Miller said. “So
there hasn’t been an explanation as to how a math teacher
or a kindergarten teacher would use that, especially the
New King James Bible, which is really the comprehensive
level. It would be well above most young elementary kids.
And so, I don’t know what the teacher would even do with
a Bible like that.”
Concerns are also rising that Oklahoma may be inspiring
other states to go down similar routes, with opponents
prepared to go to battle.
“We’ve already seen the state of Texas push to mandate
Bible-based curriculum in its public schools, that is
ongoing. That is not final guidance, I believe that is
draft guidance, which may be finalized in November, so
within the next month or so, and that comes from the
State Board of Education, and it’s a push to implement
the Bible and biblical lessons into K -five public school
settings,” said Azhar Majeed, director of Government
Affairs at the Center for Inquiry (CFI).
“CFI has started writing to public school districts in
Texas, similar to our letters in Oklahoma, and we’re
urging them to resist this state mandate. And then we’ll
see if this comes up in other states as well,” he added.
No lawsuits have yet been filed in Oklahoma, but many say
they are prepared to take action as opponents watch and
wait for the state’s next move.
“We have received reports of a number of smaller school
districts implementing the Bible mandate, as well as of
individual teachers implementing it in school districts
that are not officially implementing it,” said Rachel
Laser, president and CEO of Americans United for
Separation of Church and State. “Walters has repeatedly
threatened to take enforcement actions and to penalize
school districts and teachers who aren’t enforcing the
Bible mandate, but he hasn’t announced any specific
enforcement actions yet, including, like, revoking
teachers’ licenses, so we are all awaiting that.”
“We exist to protect the religious freedom of Oklahoma
families and families all throughout the country, so we
stand ready to take whatever action is necessary to do
that,” Laser added.
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Date: October 13, 2024 at 19:23:18
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
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The last poll I saw results in Oklahoma was in
September and gave Trump 56% approval. I'm hoping it
will be even less at election. Only the state turning
blue will stop this nonsense of selling the state to
foreign profits (Chinese made bibles) and outside state
corporations (Charter schools, government offices,
including insurance and other bureaucratic chores).
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 08:00:30
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
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Well, we're doing our part. One of my sons just moved
to OK for a new job. He registered to vote there a
couple weeks ago, and will be voting Harris this year.
He's the second son we have in OK. Talked to the elder
one, he was not happy about the Trump bibles in
schools. He's a christian, but also a veteran and
understands why separation of church and state protects
both church and state.
Seriously, if a different religion did the same
move...they would be having conniption fits.
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Date: October 14, 2024 at 09:00:57
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
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Right?!?!
I know some very feisty and wonderful Democrats in OK
and, just as is the case pretty much everywhere (save a
few places), I have no doubt there are far more of us
than there are of them...and I still have this really
vivid impression of people going into voting booths and
voting for Harris rather than him, even though they've
outwardly professed otherwise... ;)
Lots of these folks can't sacrifice their pride,
publicly, but behind a curtain...well...we all know what
surprising things can go on behind one... ;)
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Date: October 15, 2024 at 20:49:52
From: mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
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LOL. In a room the size of a school classroom , no
curtains here, open little cardboard desks, and the
paper ballot is fed into a machine a few feet from the
door, and sign-in table. All at some evangelical
Christian church.
I have little confidence my vote will be counted if
contrary to the God approved biblically sanctioned
party. But am praying to be bit by Shadow's hope bug
next life.
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Date: October 16, 2024 at 00:51:43
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: OK shifts Bible rules after accusations of pro-DJT bias, but..... |
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don't worry, we're not watching you...
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