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45023


Date: August 15, 2024 at 21:17:23
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Am not "seeing" 2025 at all.


Nothing to do with politics or world whatever.
And not a chin dragging exercise, I've never NOT seen
it ahead on timeline in brain.
There is literally nothing there.
So either I'm gone or the world blows up haha.
Felt this since beginning of year.
2025 just doesn't exist.


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45030


Date: August 20, 2024 at 18:50:30
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Am not "seeing" 2025 at all.


Isaiah 26 ... the last three verses ... innocent blood


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45027


Date: August 16, 2024 at 08:47:03
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Am not "seeing" 2025 at all.


Back in the 80s when I was remote
viewing the future before I even
heard about remote viewing, I could
only go up to the year 2024. I was
looking at my parents, who would be
around. I just couldn't go past 2025
for what ever reason. But now that
I'm here in 2024 I really feel that
the energies are crazing. It's only
when I go on hikes every week, and
go sit by trees that are a 1000 to
2000 years old, that I find relief
from the intense energies. And it's
here that I do see that 2025 will
come, but many people will have
mental disorders. Nature will be
speaking loud and clear to those who
are able to listen and understand to
what is being spoken.


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45025


Date: August 16, 2024 at 07:31:07
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: here ya go

URL: https://www.democracynow.org/2024/8/16/project_2025_undercover_video


Watch Undercover Video: Project 2025 Co-Author Lays Out “Radical Agenda” for Next Trump Term

As Donald Trump tries to distance his campaign from Project 2025, those behind the right-wing policy blueprint to remake the U.S. government continue to brag in private about their close ties to the Republican presidential nominee and how they intend to push a radical right-wing agenda in a second Trump administration. In July, Project 2025 co-author Russell Vought met with two people he believed to be relatives of a wealthy conservative donor interested in funding the effort. In fact, he was meeting with two reporters with the U.K.-based Centre for Climate Reporting as part of an undercover sting captured on video. Over the course of two hours, Vought described Trump’s disavowal of Project 2025 as mere theater and laid out plans for mass deportations, restricting abortion, gutting independent government bureaucracies, using the military against racial justice protesters and more. The secret plans are “designed to ensure that this kind of radical agenda that the conservative movement has in the U.S. can be implemented from day one,” says Lawrence Carter, founder and director of the Centre for Climate Reporting and one of the reporters who spoke with Vought. “They want to make sure that the mistakes from the first Trump administration, as they see them, where not much got done, are avoided this time around.”

Please check back later for full transcript.


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45028


Date: August 16, 2024 at 10:14:46
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: here ya go


Unless I am misunderstanding he said it had nothing to do with politics though and it was a "sensing" of not seeing the next calendar year. Which comes across to
me like being a blank space in the future in terms of the circle (cycle) of time.



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45074


Date: September 02, 2024 at 20:13:31
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: here ya go


There is literally nothing there.
Never happened like that before.
Ever.


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[45075] [45076]


45075


Date: September 03, 2024 at 01:32:40
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: here ya go


My bad akira was correct instead.


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[45076]


45076


Date: September 03, 2024 at 01:36:17
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: here ya go



And your response was time delayed, or something else.


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45026


Date: August 16, 2024 at 07:35:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: another source

URL: https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/15/politics/russ-vought-project-2025-trump-secret-recording-invs/index.html


Hidden-camera video shows Project 2025 co-author discussing his secret
work preparing for a second Trump term

By Curt Devine, Casey Tolan, Audrey Ash and Kyung Lah, CNN
Thu August 15, 2024

Hidden-camera video captures Project 2025 co-author talking about plans
for second Trump term
05:23 - Source: CNN

Last month, Russell Vought sat in a five-star Washington, DC, hotel suite,
bowing his head in prayer with two men he thought were relatives of a
wealthy conservative donor.

Vought, one of the key authors of Project 2025, a right-wing blueprint for a
second Trump term, expected the meeting would help his think tank secure a
substantial contribution. For nearly two hours, he talked candidly about his
behind-the-scenes work to prepare policy for former President Donald
Trump, his expansive views on presidential power, his plans to restrict
pornography and immigration, and his complaints that the GOP was too
focused on “religious liberty” instead of “Christian nation-ism.”

But the men Vought was talking to actually worked for a British journalism
nonprofit and were secretly recording him the entire time.

The nonprofit, the Centre for Climate Reporting, published a video of the
meeting on Thursday – offering a window into the thinking of one of the top
policy minds of the MAGA movement, who’s been floated as a possible White
House chief of staff.

Trump has publicly rejected Project 2025 as Vice President Kamala Harris’
campaign has sought to tie him to some of the plan’s most extreme
proposals. But in private, Vought said that those disavowals were merely
“graduate-level politics.”

Vought said his group, the Center for Renewing America, was secretly
drafting hundreds of executive orders, regulations, and memos that would
lay the groundwork for rapid action on Trump’s plans if he wins, describing
his work as creating “shadow” agencies. He claimed that Trump has
“blessed” his organization and “he’s very supportive of what we do.”


“Eighty percent of my time is working on the plans of what’s necessary to
take control of these bureaucracies,” Vought said. “And we are working
doggedly on that, whether it’s destroying their agencies’ notion of
independence … whether that is thinking through how the deportation would
work.”

In discussing Trump’s plan to carry out the largest deportation in US history –
which the former president has called for publicly – Vought said the
expulsion of millions of undocumented immigrants could help “save the
country.”

Once deportations begin, “you’re really going to be winning a debate along
the way about what that looks like,” Vought said. “And so that’s going to
cause us to get us off of multiculturalism, just to be able to sustain and
defend the deportation, right?”

The video is the latest example of secret recordings exposing political
figures’ private comments. The tactics used by the Centre – which created
fake websites and a fake LinkedIn profile to deceive Vought – are typically
rejected by mainstream American news outlets.

But using hidden cameras and deceptive practices in reporting is more
common in the UK, where the Centre is based, and it’s been on the rise on
the fringe of the US media as well. The conservative group Project Veritas
has long conducted sting operations and published selectively edited videos,
and earlier this year, a liberal activist released audio recordings of
conversations she had with Supreme Court Justice Samuel Alito and his wife,
as well as Chief Justice John Roberts.

In an email, Lawrence Carter, the Centre’s co-founder and director, defended
the group’s tactics, saying that there was a public interest in revealing
Vought’s private comments about his relationship with Trump and work on
Project 2025.

“We broadly follow the UK’s press regulator guidelines on this, which say that
it is justified if it is in the public interest and not obtainable via other means,”
Carter said. “We therefore weigh the subject’s reasonable expectation of
privacy with the public interest.”

The Centre posted clips of its secretly recorded conversation with Vought
online. It provided CNN what it said was a complete, unedited version of its
video on the condition that CNN blurred footage showing its employees’
faces, in order to protect their ability to go undercover in the future.

In a statement Thursday, Vought’s nonprofit downplayed the video, saying it
did not reveal any new comments from him.

“It would have been easier to just do a google search to ‘uncover’ what is
already on our website and said in countless national media interviews,” said
Rachel Cauley, a spokesperson for the Center for Renewing America. “But
thank you for airing our perfect conversation emphasizing our policy work is
totally separate from the Trump campaign, as we have been saying.”

A Trump spokesperson declined to comment on the video, but his campaign
has stressed that he sets his own agenda and that Project 2025 and other
outside conservative groups don’t speak for him.

“President Trump’s campaign made it clear that only President Trump and
the campaign, and NOT any other organization or former staff, represent
policies for the second term,” Danielle Alvarez, a senior advisor to the
campaign, said in a statement. “President Trump personally led the effort to
establish 20 promises made to the forgotten men and women across our
nation, as well as RNC Platform – these are the only policies endorsed by
President Trump for a second term.”

Centre for Climate Reporting video clip 1
01:15 - Source: CNN
An elaborate ruse
Vought served as the director of the Office of Management and Budget
under Trump, where he made a name for himself as a policy wonk committed
to the MAGA movement. In public, Trump repeatedly praised Vought for
doing an “incredible” and “fantastic” job at OMB.

After Trump left office, Vought started the Center for Renewing America, a
nonprofit that describes itself as the “tip of the America First spear.” CRA was
one of many right-leaning groups that partnered on Project 2025, a more
than 900-page blueprint for Trump’s second term that was led by the
Heritage Foundation. Vought personally authored the project’s chapter on
the executive office of the president, and his group contributed to several
other chapters of the plan as well.

Vought also served as the policy director of the Republican National
Convention committee that rewrote the GOP’s official platform this year – a
sign of how central he is to Republicans’ policy goals.

Last month, Vought’s team was approached by employees with the Centre
for Climate Reporting, which has previously published investigations into
climate negotiations and Saudi Arabia’s energy policy.

The Centre spun an elaborate fiction, with a journalist and a paid actor
posing as the brother and son-in-law of a reclusive New Mexico investor. The
nonexistent patriarch had watched Vought’s appearances on Steve Bannon’s
“War Room” show while recuperating from an illness – and wanted to make a
seven-figure contribution to CRA after previously focusing his philanthropy
on classical music, they claimed.

The meeting took place on July 24, the week after the Republican
convention, at the presidential suite of the Rosewood hotel in DC, where the
Centre had placed several hidden cameras and microphones, Carter said.
After the Centre’s employees suggested starting the meeting with a prayer,
they peppered Vought with questions about his work and views, the video
shows.

Sitting on a couch in the hotel suite, Vought seemed relaxed and comfortable
discussing a wide range of topics, from the history of the conservative
movement to European politics to his relationship with the former president.

Vought said he was unfazed by Trump’s repeated denials of any connection
with Project 2025, dismissing such public statements as politics.

“I see what he’s doing is just very, very conscious distancing himself from a
brand,” Vought said. “It’s interesting, he’s in fact not even opposing himself to
a particular policy.”

About a week after the conversation, the director of Project 2025 stepped
down, and Trump’s campaign managers said in a statement that “reports of
Project 2025’s demise would be greatly welcomed.”

Vought said he had personally talked to Trump in recent months and
received at least one personal “assignment” from him after he left office. He
noted that the former president has “been at our organization, he’s raised
money for our organization, he’s blessed it … he’s very supportive of what we
do.”

That wasn’t just bluster to try to land a big check, according to others in the
MAGA movement. Trump and Vought have spoken at various times since
leaving office, and the former president has adopted some of Vought’s ideas,
two sources familiar with their relationship told CNN.

President Donald Trump listens as acting director of the Office of
Management and Budget Russell Vought speaks during a White House event
in October 2019.
President Donald Trump listens as acting director of the Office of
Management and Budget Russell Vought speaks during a White House event
in October 2019. Evan Vucci/AP
Inside the ‘second phase’ of Project 2025
In preparation for Trump’s potential return to the White House, Vought said in
the meeting that he had a team of staffers working to draft regulations and
executive orders that would translate Trump’s campaign speeches into
government policy.

“We’ve got about 350 different documents that are regulations and things of
that nature that are, we’re planning for the next administration,” he said.

For example, “you may say, ‘OK, all right, DHS, we want to have the largest
deportation,’” Vought said. “What are your actual memos that a secretary
sends out to do it? Like, there’s an executive order, regulations, secretarial
memos. Those are the types of things that need to be thought through so
you’re not, you’re not having to scramble or do that later on.”

Those plans will not be made public, Vought said, but instead will be “very,
very close hold.”

A Centre for Climate Reporting journalist, under the guise of the fake donor’s
relative, also secretly recorded a separate conversation with one of Vought’s
aides, who went into more detail about the process. Micah Meadowcroft, the
research director for CRA, said the drafts the group was preparing would be
provided to an incoming Trump administration in a way that would protect
them from ever being publicly disclosed.

“It’s a big, fat stack of papers that will be distributed during the transition
period,” Meadowcroft said in the video – while noting that “you don’t actually,
like, send them to their work emails,” in order to avoid disclosure under the
Freedom of Information Act.

He described Vought’s work preparing executive orders and policy playbooks
as “the second phase” of Project 2025.

The work of drafting policies is happening months ahead of the election in
part because “President Trump will want to spend literally zero amount of
time thinking or contemplating what a transition will look like,” Vought said.
“It’s not how he thinks.”

Vought’s guiding principle, he said, was simple: What would Donald do?

“We were always going off of, if Donald Trump was head of this agency, what
would he do with it?” Vought said.

The Washington Post and Associated Press previously reported that Vought
was drafting a playbook for the first 180 days of a new Trump administration.

More broadly, during Trump’s first term in office, Vought said, “we had
people, appointees, that were not on board with the president’s viewpoint –
leaking, destabilizing the policy process.”

“I don’t think that will be the occurrence again,” Vought said. “I think he will
find people that share his political views are bought in, and that will be a
much more healthy White House process as a result.”

Some have speculated that Vought himself could be one of those people,
with others in the MAGA movement floating him as a potential White House
chief of staff. Asked if he had been offered a job in a second Trump
administration, Vought said no, but added, “I think there’s an expectation that
I would go in.”

“I don’t know what that would be,” he said. “I don’t know what the President
would want me to do.”



Centre for Climate Reporting video clip 2
00:52 - Source: CNN
Religion and race
Elsewhere in the conversation, Vought outlined views on religion and race
that seem more extreme than those Trump has publicly articulated –
including criticism of the right for what he described as an excessive focus
on religious freedom.

In the conservative movement, “we’ve been too focused on religious liberty,
which we all support, but we’ve lacked the ability to argue we are a Christian
nation,” Vought argued – an idea he’s also talked about publicly. “Our laws
are built on the Judeo-Christian worldview value system.”

He said that conservatives should push to have debates over whether to
allow mosques to be built in America’s downtowns, and whether Christian
immigrants should be prioritized over those of other faiths – ideas that run
contrary to First Amendment protections.

“I want to make sure that we can say we are a Christian nation,” Vought
added later. “And my viewpoint is mostly that I would probably be Christian
nation-ism. That’s pretty close to Christian nationalism because I also believe
in nationalism.”

Vought argued that it was important to pursue some of the culturally
conservative policy goals listed in the Project 2025 blueprint – including
abortion restrictions and making pornography illegal – while taking into
account political realities.

Instead of an unpopular new law banning all pornography, for example,
Vought said that his group would propose “doing it from the back door” by
making pornography websites legally liable if minors use them. That could
lead pornography companies to stop doing business in states with those kind
of laws, he suggested.

And in discussing the protests and riots around the US in the wake of the
murder of George Floyd in 2020, Vought said that the president had the
ability to use the military to restore order. He argued that the commander-in-
chief wasn’t limited by the Posse Comitatus Act, a nearly 150-year-old law
that prevents federal troops from conducting civilian law enforcement except
when authorized by law.

“The President has, you know, the ability both along the border and
elsewhere to maintain law and order with the military,” Vought said. “And
that’s something that, you know, it’s going to be important for, for him to
remember and his lawyers to affirm.”

Trump wanted to deploy thousands of active duty troops on the streets of
major cities to quell protesters in 2020, but defense officials pushed back, a
senior official told CNN at the time.

Vought added that the unrest following Floyd’s death “obviously was not
about race.”

“It was about destabilizing the Trump administration,” he claimed.


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45024


Date: August 16, 2024 at 06:46:03
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Am not "seeing" 2025 at all.


i am thinking the same. i don't think of next year.
maybe my age?


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