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Date: August 01, 2024 at 16:29:26
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better?

URL: https://x.com/TheProjectUnity/status/1819033669459194026


J.K. Rowling:

Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better? The smirk
of a male who’s knows he’s protected by a misogynist sporting establishment
enjoying the distress of a woman he’s just punched in the head, and whose
life’s ambition he’s just shattered. #Paris2024


Jay Anderson - Project Unity:

Male chromosomes, male bio chemistry, male muscle tone, male fighter.

This should be illegal.


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44994


Date: August 01, 2024 at 23:33:09
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Could any picture sum up our new men’s rights movement better?


yes, it should be illegal in my opinion, its an unequal match from the get go!


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Date: August 05, 2024 at 17:54:45
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Statement made by the International Boxing Association

URL: https://www.iba.sport/news/statement-made-by-the-international-boxing-association-regarding-athletes-disqualifications-in-world-boxing-championships-2023/


Imane Khelif had XY chromosomes... aka, male


Statement made by the International Boxing Association regarding Athletes
Disqualifications in World Boxing Championships 2023

July 31st, 2024 / IBA

As stated, the International Boxing Association (IBA) feels it appropriate at
this prevalent time, to address recent media statements regarding those
athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif, particularly regarding their
participation in the Paris Olympic Games 2024.

We wish to make the following points in these regards:

On 24 March 2023, IBA disqualified athletes Lin Yu-ting and Imane Khelif
from the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships New Delhi 2023. This
disqualification was a result of their failure to meet the eligibility criteria for
participating in the women’s competition, as set and laid out in the IBA
Regulations. This decision, made after a meticulous review, was extremely
important and necessary to uphold the level of fairness and utmost integrity
of the competition.

Point to note, the athletes did not undergo a testosterone examination but
were subject to a separate and recognized test, whereby the specifics
remain confidential. This test conclusively indicated that both athletes did
not meet the required necessary eligibility criteria and were found to have
competitive advantages over other female competitors.

The decision made by IBA on 24 March 2023, was subsequently ratified by
the IBA Board of Directors on 25 March 2023. The official record of this
decision can be accessed on the IBA website here IBA Board of Directors
Meeting Minutes.

The disqualification was based on two tests conducted on both athletes as
follows:

Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in
Istanbul 2022.
Test performed during the IBA Women’s World Boxing Championships in
New Delhi 2023.
For clarification

Lin Yu-ting did not appeal the IBA’s decision to the Court of Arbitration for
Sport (CAS), thus rendering the decision legally binding.
Imane Khelif initially appealed the decision to CAS but withdrew the appeal
during the process, also making the IBA decision legally binding.
Our Committees have rigorously reviewed and endorsed the decision made
during the World Championships. While IBA remains committed to ensuring
competitive fairness in all of our events, we express concern over the
inconsistent application of eligibility criteria by other sporting organizations,
including those overseeing the Olympic Games. The IOC’s differing
regulations on these matters, in which IBA is not involved, raise serious
questions about both competitive fairness and athletes’ safety.

For clarification on why the IOC permits athletes with competitive
advantages to compete in their events, we urge interested parties to seek
answers directly from the IOC.

Yours sincerely,

International Boxing Association


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44993


Date: August 01, 2024 at 16:43:20
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: A boxer deemed a 'biological male' today won against an Italian woman

URL: https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13697397/Boxer-Imane-Khelif-cleared-compete-Olympics-despite-deemed-biologically-male-leaves-Italian-opponent-tears-fight-abandoned.html


A boxer deemed a 'biological male' today won against an Italian woman in
one of the most controversial Olympic bouts ever.

The fight between Italy's Angela Carini and her Algerian opponent Imane
Khelif took just 46 seconds, with the Italian throwing her helmet onto the
floor as the clash was abandoned, yelling: 'This is unjust.'

The 25-year-old refused the handshake and fell to the canvas sobbing
having received just two punches from Khelif - who had been banned from a
major boxing contest before the Olympics.


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Khelif was thrown out of last year's world championships after failing
testosterone tests carried out to establish gender qualification.

After the match was stopped, the referee raised Khelif's hand in the air. But a
visibly furious Carini yanked her own hand away from the fight official and
walked off.

Ignoring the Algerian, the Italian fighter then plunged to her knees and burst
into tears as she said she had never felt such strong blows in a contest
before.

Speaking after the match, the heartbroken Italian said: 'I'm used to suffering.
I've never taken a punch like that, it's impossible to continue. I'm nobody to
say it's illegal.

'I got into the ring to fight. But I didn't feel like it anymore after the first
minute. I started to feel a strong pain in my nose. I didn't give up, but a punch
hurt too much and so I said enough. I'm leaving with my head held high.'


She said she did not walk away from the fight as a protest against her
opponent's inclusion, but that was a decision for the Olympics to consider.

She was taken away for medical assessment to examine the seriousness of
her facial injuries which included a bruised nose.

Do you think this was a fair match-up?
Yes
No
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Carini added: 'I entered the ring and I told myself I have to take out all of
myself independently from the person I had in front of me.

'And honestly, I don't care. I said to myself, 'This is my Olympics'.
Independently, from all controversy, I just wanted to carry on and win.'

'I am not one that easily surrenders. Even if they told me, let's not fight, I
would not have accepted it.

'I am a fighter. My father taught me to be a warrior. When I am in the ring, I
use that mindset, the mindset of a warrior, a winning mindset. This time I
couldn't make it.

'You all saw my nose that started bleeding. I didn't lose tonight, I just
surrendered with maturity.'

'I wish her to carry on until the end and that she can be happy. I am someone
who doesn't judge anyone. I am not here to give judgements.

'I simply entered the ring to fight and to fight for my dream. It didn't happen.
Evidently, God and my father wanted this and I accept it.

'I am not in the position of saying this is right or wrong. I am not. I did my job
as a boxer, entering the ring and fighting. I didn't manage to, but I am exiting
with my head held high and with a broken heart.

'I am a mature woman, the ring is my life. I've always been very instinctive,
but when I feel something is not going well, it's not a surrender but having
the maturity to stop.'

Carini's coach in the mix zone after the fight said: 'I don't know if her nose is
broken. I have to speak with the girl. But many people in Italy tried to call and
tell her: 'Don't go please: it's a man, it's dangerous for you.'

After the fight, the Algerian Boxing Federation gloated about Khelif's victory,
posting on Facebook: 'Congratulations to the Algerian boxer Iman Khalif, who
responds strongly in the ring and qualifies for the quarterfinals, after
defeating the Italian Angelina Carini in less than 46 seconds, effortlessly.'

Speaking as she left the ring, the Algerian boxer added: 'God willing, this was
the first victory. God is willing me to the golden one.'

Bosses at the IOC are now facing a furious backlash following the fight, with
former Prime Minister Liz Truss blasting the clash.

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Writing on Twitter, the former Tory MP said: 'When will this madness stop?
Men cannot become women. Why is the British Government not objecting to
this?'

British Olympic hero Sharron Davies also waded into the controversy, raging:
'This is shocking. The IOC are a bloody disgrace. In effect legalising beating
up females. This must stop!!! What the hell's the matter with them?'

While Harry Potter author JK Rowling branded the contest 'insanity'. In a post
yesterday, the gender-critical author wrote: 'What will it take to end this
insanity? A female boxer left with life-altering injuries? A female boxer killed?'

Posting a video of the fight today, the author added: 'Watch this (whole
thread), then explain why you're OK with a man beating a woman in public for
your entertainment. This isn't sport. From the bullying cheat in red all the way
up to the organisers who allowed this to happen, this is men revelling in their
power over women.'


Carini is an Italian police officer with the Fiamme Oro.

Her mantra is: 'Boxing is a sport that teaches you to have respect for your
opponent. It can be a weapon in life, but only for defence. It cannot and must
not become an abuse. Like any sport, it can instead become a vehicle for
venting anger and pain.'

But despite her gender test problems, she was admitted to the Olympics
amid a huge furore.

Olympics officials at Paris 2024 have accepted her as a female and state so
in her official games biography.

Another female boxer Lin Yu-ting of Taiwan was also disqualified from the
2023 women's boxing world championships for failing a gender eligibility
test.

Former world featherweight champion Barry McGuigan - now president of
the Professional Boxing Association - said it was a 'shocking' and 'pathetic'
decision to allow 'a man' to fight women.

Umar Kremlev, president of the International Boxing Association (IBA) has
said after a series of DNA-tests the association 'uncovered athletes who
were trying to fool their colleagues and pretended to be women.

Kremlev claimed that the tests 'proved they had XY chromosomes and were
thus excluded from the sports events.'

Italy's sports minister Andrea Abodi raised concerns about Khelif competing,
but Angela Carini was on record as saying that 'respect' of her opponents
was her mantra.

Algeria's Olympic Committee condemned as 'baseless' the attacks on their
boxer after questions were raised over her participation at the Paris
Olympics.

But Khelif, who competed at the 2020 Tokyo Olympics, only fell into
controversy after failing the tests last year in New Delhi.

She received resounding applause from staunch Algerian supporters as she
entered the ring, but there were several boos.

At 5'10 and two inches taller than her police officer opponent, Khelif showed
off her power with a series of powerful punches early in the three round
contest.

But it was over in less than a minute.

Italian officials had already protested the inclusion of the Algerian and
Olympic officials were assessing how to deal with further controversies
surrounding the Algerian as she fights her way towards a medal.

Carini's father also served in the police, but was injured in an accident when
she was a toddler and had to use a wheelchair for the rest of his life.

Speaking in 2020, she said: 'My father is my hero. I am very attached to him,
he taught me that in life you should never give up. And when I'm in the ring
and the situation gets tough, I hear his example, I never give up.

'When he was paralysed I was only two years old. I grew up on his legs, he
never made me miss anything. I have never seen him as a different father
from the others, the chair on which he is sitting has never divided us, quite
the contrary.'

Her father died away in 2021, a few days after her Olympic debut at the
delayed Tokyo 2020 Games, and she considered quitting the sport.

'I didn't want to box without my dad anymore. But I came back because I owe
it to him. He has always been by my side and now we fight together.'

The clash comes amid a gender storm at the Olympics over 'biologically
male' fighters competing in the female divisions.

IOC bosses overseeing the Olympics in Paris said Khelif met the eligibility
criteria to compete - despite concerns of the boxer's biological sex.

Following last year's ban, the Algerian Olympic Committee hit back, claiming
the disqualification was part of a 'conspiracy' to stop them from winning a
gold meal and said 'medical reasons' were behind high testosterone levels.

After the disqualification, Mexico's Brianda Tamara came forward with her
own experience of fighting Khelif earlier in the tournament.

'When I fought with her I felt very out of my depth,' she wrote on X. 'Her
blows hurt me a lot, I don't think I had ever felt like that in my 13 years as a
boxer, nor in my sparring with men. Thank God that day I got out of the ring
safely, and it's good that they finally realized.'

Also given the green light to fight is Lin Yu-Ting of Taiwan, who was also
thrown out of the world championships amid questions about their sex.

According to feminist website Reduxx, both are thought both are impacted
by a Difference of Sexual Development (DSD), a series of medical conditions
identified at birth where genitalia is atypical in relation to chromosomes.

McGuigan is among those questioning the situation. 'It's shocking that they
were actually allowed to get this far, what is going on?' he wrote on X.

Elsewhere, Nancy Hogshead – the American swimmer who won three golds
at the 1984 Games, waded into the row, claiming that 'gender ideology will
get women KILLED'.

Hogshead wrote: 'Imane Khelif of Algeria and Lin Yu-Ting of Taiwan are
scheduled to compete in women's Olympic boxing – despite being
disqualified last year for having XY chromosomes, the male phenotype. Let's
remind ourselves that males – however they identify – pack a punch that is
162 per cent more powerful than women – THE biggest performance gap
between men and women. Gender ideology will get women KILLED.'

One X user added: 'Men punching women is now officially an Olympic sport'.

An IOC spokesperson said: 'All athletes participating in the boxing
tournament comply with the competition's eligibility and entry regulations, as
well as all applicable medical regulations, in accordance with the Paris 2024
Boxing Unit.'

But Olympic chiefs' decisions to ditch rules on gender testing for athletes
have been branded 'crazy' by critics.

Speaking to MailOnline sports scientist Professor Ross Tucker said: 'Would
you allow a 90kg fighter to fight against a 60kg fighter?

'Because that's more or less what the difference is in strength and power
between male and female boxers.'

Tests on both Khelif and Yu-Ting revealed XY chromosomes in their systems.


Rare 'intersex' medical conditions, medically known as differences in sexual
development (DSDs), can also mean outwardly female individuals can have
'male' chromosomes, or vice versa.

What are differences in sex development (DSD) or being intersex?
Intersex is an umbrella term for multiple of conditions that mean a person's
sexual anatomy is different than most other people's.

Also called 'differences in sex development' (DSD) these are rare conditions
that develop in the womb.

They are normally spotted at birth but occasionally only come to light later in
life during puberty.

They involve a combination of genes, hormones and the layout and
appearance of reproductive anatomy like the genitals.

For example, a girl might be born with a long clitoris but a closed vagina due
to a hormonal condition.

In other cases, a boy may be born with a penis but have a womb and internal,
rather regular external, testicles.

Some of these traits are linked to having extra chromosome like Klinefelter
syndrome.

There is some evidence that some DSDs can run in families but in most
cases, there is no obvious cause.

People with DSDs have sometimes been subjected to shocking medical
treatment.

So-called 'corrective surgeries' were sometimes used to 'fix' babies'
genitalia to better match one sex.

For example, male babies born without a penis, a DSD called aphallia, have
sometimes been subjected to 'feminisation surgery' to create an artificial
vagina.

This has resulted, historically, in people being raised as girls but then growing
facial hair and developing a deeper voice when their male puberty starts.

DSD charities have also criticised this 'corrective 'approach as it usually
driven by societal expectations rather than medical benefit for the patient.

People with very specific DSDs do need medical care however, as there can
be knock-on effects to other aspects of their health.

However, the vast majority do not need any medical attention.

How common DSDs are vary by type, with more than 40 individual conditions
covered by the term.

A rough estimate is that 1.7 per cent of the population, about one in 50
people are born with a type of DSD.


Speaking yesterday International Olympic Committee spokesperson Mark
Adams said: 'Everyone competing in the women's category is complying with
the competition eligibility rules.'

He added: 'They are women in their passports and it's stated that this is the
case, that they are female.'

Sports scientists told MailOnline that an absence of clear policy by the
Olympics in this area had allowed the bizarre situation to develop.

Prior to 2021, the IOC set thresholds for the maximum amount of
testosterone — the 'male' sex hormone — competitors in women's events
could have. These were picked up in blood tests, similar to ones for doping.

Rules on testosterone limits had been previosuly brought into sharp focus by
the very public and famous case of Caster Semenya.

Semenya has a condition which means her body naturally produces higher
levels of testosterone than normal for women.

She became unable to compete at Tokyo in 2020 after World Athletics
brought in new rules independently of the IOC at the time.

IOC's own testosterone monitoring policies were halted three years ago and
replaced with a policy of 'fairness, inclusion and non-discrimination on the
basis of gender identify and sex variation'.

The IOC now provides individual sporting bodies in every country with 'ten
guiding principles' they can use to make their own policies.

This controversial document states that athletes with 'sex variations', another
term for DSDs, have 'no presumption of advantage' and that they should be
allowed to compete in the category of their gender identity.

There are exceptions, with framework stating that an 'evidence-based
approach' can be used to exclude athletes who have a 'consistent unfair
disproportionate advantage' or if there is an 'unpreventable risk' to the safety
of other athletes.

However, some sport scientists say that, by themselves, these guidelines are
wooly and open to interpretation.

Federations that govern rugby, track and field, swimming and cycling have all
introduced rules in some form to address biological males in women's sport,
though the exact details of policies vary.

And boxing did as well, with the International Boxing Association (IAB)
requiring athletes to undergo 'gender assessment'.

Though it doesn't detail the exact nature of these assessments, it is this test
that Khelif and Lin failed last year at the IAB's Women's World Boxing
Championships in New Delhi.

At the time IBA president, Umar Kremlev, claimed the tests had proven both
Khelif and Lin 'had XY chromosomes'.

He added that they 'uncovered athletes who were trying to fool their
colleagues and pretend to be women'.

Under these same rules and test results Khelif and Lin wouldn't be able to
compete this Olympics, but the IAB was stripped of its role in governing the
sport for the Paris games by the IOC due to problems with the latter's
governance.

The IOC created via a new body, the Paris Boxing Unit (PBU), to determine
eligibility for competitors.

Documents from the PBU make no mention of gender or sex testing for male
or female events, though they do set limits for the age of competitors, a
passport being an acceptable ID for athletes and requiring boxers in the
women's category to declare if they are pregnant.

Defending its decision to approve Khelif and Lin as women the IOC's Mr
Adams added: 'These athletes have competed many times before for many
years. They haven't just suddenly arrived.'

But sports scientist Professor Tucker, said the absence of clear policy by the
IOC in this area had allowed this situation to occur.

'Last year [Khelif and Lin] did not meet eligibility requirements and the only
reason they do now is the body that did rule them ineligible has been moved
aside,' he said.

'It's due to a vacuum of policy, there's no policy now.'


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Date: August 03, 2024 at 07:22:53
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: A simple cheek swab can protect female boxers

URL: https://www.thetimes.com/article/b8a7b567-810f-4505-8c2e-e9cfb0b8132b?shareToken=3e7d6ee6f1172407020ec1428e64c7c5


A simple cheek swab can protect female boxers

excerpt:

The IOC’s dangerous and misogynistic ideas about gender inclusion are to
blame for the humiliation of Angela Carini

Janice Turner
Friday August 02 2024

After taking questions on the women’s boxing furore with his usual huffy
condescension, the International Olympic Committee spokesman Mark
Adams strived for a little consensus. “I hope,” he said, “we are all agreed we
aren’t going to go back to the bad old days of sex testing.”

Actually, we are not. Adams was perpetuating the myth that sex testing was
archaic, cruel and degrading, involving athletes dropping their pants for
doctors to check they had the “right” genitals. In fact, a sex test was
conducted only once in a female athlete’s career: a quick cheek swab with a
cotton bud revealing biological sex was added to her permanent record. Anti-
doping tests are far more intrusive and can happen any time.

But at the 1996 Atlanta Games an IOC questionnaire asked female athletes if
the cheek swab should continue (82 per cent said yes) and whether it made
them “anxious” (94 per cent said no). Nonetheless the IOC ignored almost
1,000 elite women who replied and abolished cheek swabs for Sydney in
2000.

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casualties

That decision exemplifies the IOC’s contempt for female competitors and is
the very reason the tough, seasoned Italian boxer Angela Carini abandoned
her bout after 46 seconds to kneel weeping on the canvas with a bloody
nose. It is also why in 2016 at Rio, the women’s 800m podium was filled
entirely with biological males, including Caster Semenya who took gold.

Those runners and the two controversial boxers at these Games — Imane
Khelif of Algeria and Taiwan’s Lin Yu-ting — have a DSD (difference of sexual
development), that wilfully misunderstood phenomenon. They are not
“intersex” — ie between or a “mix of” the two sexes — because no one is.
They almost certainly have 5-ARD: they are biological males with XY
chromosomes but whose bodies lack the receptor that creates external male
genitalia.


In developing countries many are read as female at birth and raised as girls.
But at puberty their internal testes start producing testosterone at normal
levels so they acquire most of the strength, muscle mass, height and power
of other men. In other words, they experience male puberty after which many
start living as men. Semenya is pictured in her autobiography at 15, broad-
shouldered and bare-chested on a beach in swimming trunks."


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