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Date: March 04, 2024 at 22:35:47
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Study Finds Those Suffering "Long Covid" Were the Vaccinated (NT) |
URL: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/study-finds-majority-patients-long-covid-were-vaccinated |
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Date: March 06, 2024 at 09:52:59
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: bh6 Still into the |
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void of conspiracy...
Someone explained to me that people who feel unseen, unheard, helpless and hapless are drawn to myths that explain their predicament as the result of schemes and manipulations by powerful people (i.e. Bill Gates, George Soros, Dr. Anthony Faucci, etc.) and groups (the CIA, the Jews, the Greys etc.) – all acting behind the scenes.
Part of the appeal of conspiracy theories is that the believer feels empowered by the ability to explain events that the masses don’t even see or understand – as well as to rationalize their own lack of worldly success or recognition.
Overall, the conspiracy believers feel that they’re excused from ordinary morality, civil norms and common decency. And no amount of factual information will alter the believer's way of thinking until other factors in their lives change for the better.
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Date: March 06, 2024 at 10:07:51
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why Do Studies Vilifying the VAX Trouble U? BIG VAX Stock Investor?(NT) |
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Date: March 06, 2024 at 13:24:32
From: The Hieorphant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why Do Studies Vilifying the VAX Trouble U? BIG VAX Stock... |
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huh ????? - it seems as if YOU are the one who is hyperfocused on vilifying the covid vaccines because that is all you seem to be able to post. And if you noticed, but probably not, YOU are the one who posts about the covid vaccines - I just counter with the facts, not conspiracy theories.
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 15:14:17
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 217 Vaccinations against covid |
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apparently don't cause the bad side effects that bh6 wants us to think they do Here is someone who had 217 Covid vaccines and still is doing great!
"Scientists report on ‘hypervaccinated’ man who has had 217 Covid jabs – study
Scientists have reported the case of a “hypervaccinated” man who has reportedly received 217 Covid-19 jabs.
The man from Germany had dozens of vaccines “for private reasons” over a period of 29 months, according to a study published in the journal Lancet Infectious Diseases.
The 62-year-old, from Magdeburg, Germany, had “no signs” of ever being infected with the virus that causes Covid-19 and had not reported any vaccine- related side-effects, the researchers from University of Erlangen-Nuremberg said.
Academics heard about the man in a newspaper report and asked if they could study his body’s response to the multiple jabs.
“We learned about his case via newspaper articles,” Dr Kilian Schober said.
“We then contacted him and invited him to undergo various tests in Erlangen. He was very interested in doing so.”
There is official confirmation for 134 of these vaccinations – including eight different vaccines, the team said.
“The observation that no noticeable side-effects were triggered in spite of this extraordinary hypervaccination indicates that the drugs have a good degree of tolerability,” Dr Schober added. Researchers looked at previous blood tests the man had had and also examined blood samples as he went on to receive further vaccines.
Dr Schober continued: “The individual has undergone various blood tests over recent years, he gave us his permission to assess the results of these analyses.
“In some cases, samples had been frozen, and we were able to investigate these ourselves. We were also able to take blood samples ourselves when the man received a further vaccination during the study at his own insistence.
“We were able to use these samples to determine exactly how the immune system reacts to the vaccination.”
Researchers found that his immune system was fully functional.
Certain immune cells and antibodies against the virus which causes Covid-19 (Sars-CoV-2) were present in considerably higher levels compared to people who had received just three vaccines, the team reported.
“Overall, we did not find any indication for a weaker immune response, rather the contrary,” said one of the leading study authors Katharina Kocher."
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 12:17:58
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And yet, this everyday ingredient |
URL: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC9471313/ |
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that is overly consumed will negatively affect your health, increase inflammation and accelerate tumor growth: SUGAR!
From the research paper: "close attention should also be paid to the combination of high glucose-mediated immune imbalance and tumor development" and "found that excessive sugar intake is closely associated with the development of low-grade chronic inflammation and autoimmune diseases. Autoimmune disease is a common disorder caused by the immune system attacking its own normal tissues. High glucose environment is inextricably linked with the immune system, which plays an important role in immune signal and immune cell function"
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 12:41:23
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: And yet, this everyday ingredient |
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So true! Just on the fly here, if you've never heard of or read the book Sugar Blues, by William Duffy (1986), I strongly recommend it... Blows the lid off the whole processed sugar industry, how it was purposefully introduced into so many foods not only to "enhance taste," but to encourage sugar dependence for corporate profit...
And people wonder why we have diabetes epidemics...!
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 10:05:33
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: And Yet, there are credible scientific studies that show opposite |
URL: https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/vaccination-dramatically-lowers-long-covid-risk |
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no, a vaccine does not stop one from getting covid if one's immune system is compromised from other medical issues...just like shingles vaccine won't stop one from getting shingles but WILL lessen the symptoms.
From the Scientific American article that was published Jan 3, 2024:
"At least 200 million people worldwide have struggled with long COVID: a slew of symptoms that can persist for months or even years after an infection with SARS- CoV-2, the virus that causes COVID. But research suggests that that number would likely be much higher if not for vaccines.
A growing consensus is emerging that receiving multiple doses of the COVID vaccine before an initial infection can dramatically reduce the risk of long-term symptoms. Although the studies disagree on the exact amount of protection, they show a clear trend: the more shots in your arm before your first bout with COVID, the less likely you are to get long COVID. One meta-analysis of 24 studies published in October, for example, found that people who’d had three doses of the COVID vaccine were 68.7 percent less likely to develop long COVID compared with those who were unvaccinated. “This is really impressive,” says Alexandre Marra, a medical researcher at the Albert Einstein Israelite Hospital in Brazil and the lead author of the study. “Booster doses make a difference in long COVID.”
It is also a welcome departure from earlierstudies, which suggested that vaccines provided only a modest defense against long COVID. In 2022 Marra’s team published a meta-analysis of six studies that found that a single dose of the COVID vaccine reduced the likelihood of long COVID by 30 percent. Now, that protection appears to be much greater.
A study published in November in the BMJ found that a single COVID vaccine dose reduced the risk of long COVID by 21 percent, two doses reduced it by 59 percent and three or more doses reduced it by 73 percent. Vaccine effectiveness clearly climbed with each successive dose. “I was surprised that we saw such a clear dose response,” says Fredrik Nyberg, an epidemiologist at the University of Gothenburg in Sweden and one of the co-authors of the study. “The more doses you had in your body before your first infection, the better.” That lines up with the findings of several new studies, which similarly show this ladderlike benefit. Marra’s October 2023 meta-analysis found that two doses reduced long COVID likelihood by 36.9 percent and three doses reduced it by 68.7 percent. And in a study published last year in the Journal of the American Medical Association, other researchers found that the prevalence of long COVID in health care workers dropped from 41.8 percent in unvaccinated participants to 30 percent in those with a single dose, 17.4 percent with two doses and 16 percent with three doses.
These studies were conducted in various countries with differing health care systems, demographics, COVID vaccination uptake and COVID prevalence. As such, Marra notes that the COVID vaccines’ effectiveness against long COVID will vary and may not be generalizable to other settings. Still, the consistency of the studies’ findings is telling—regardless of their settings, many studies agree that boosters provide potent protection against long COVID. Marra’s recent meta-analysis, for example, showed that the prevalence of long COVID in the early years of the pandemic was consistently above 20 percent. Today rates of long COVID have dropped, likely thanks to increased immunity, milder variants and improved treatment. Yet there is still a sharp divide between unvaccinated and vaccinated people. The prevalence of long COVID is currently 11 percent among those who are unvaccinated and 5 percent among those who have had two or more doses of the vaccine. “It is a significant difference for those who are unwilling to take the risk,” he says.
The question is why. It could be that these vaccines help prevent severe COVID itself, which is a risk factor for long COVID. But that does not appear to be the whole story—in part because the boosters have also been shown to shield people who had only a mild COVID infection. Unfortunately, the precise mechanisms at play are hard to disentangle because the cause of long COVID itself is still cloaked in mystery. One possibility is that the virus lingers in the body, hiding in various organs—such as the gut or brain—and causing chronic inflammation. Another is that long COVID is an autoimmune disease in which the immune response triggered by the initial infection wages an extended war against the body, causing symptoms long after the initial infection has been cleared.
For both scenarios, boosters give people the upper hand, argues Akiko Iwasaki, an immunologist at Yale University who is co-leading a clinical trial on long COVID. That is because boosters enhance antibodies— increasing both their numbers and their ability to bind to the virus—as well as T and B immune cells that help fight the virus. With both components, “people who take the booster shots have an improved ability to fight off infection,” Iwasaki says. And that is key, allowing the booster to quash a growing infection before it spirals out of control. “The more you can prevent the replication and spread of the virus within the body, the less chance the virus has to seed a niche—to establish reservoirs or cause excessive inflammation that leads to autoimmunity,” she says.
Although it will take time to pinpoint the exact reason behind vaccines’ protective effect against long COVID, many medical experts are hopeful that the new studies will help counter the spread of misinformation and disinformation about the COVID immunizations that has contributed to vaccine hesitancy. But experts also note that while vaccines reduce the risk of long COVID, they do not eradicate it, and protection may wane over time. “Breakthrough infections can still occur, and the dynamic of the virus—including the emergence of new variants—add complexity to the situation,” Marra says. As such, he notes that it’s important to continue to follow public health guidelines to minimize the impact of COVID, including the risk of long-term symptoms."
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 10:41:33
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The Very First Sentence Says it all: "Compromised" Immune System |
URL: https://www.theepochtimes.com/health/how-the-covid-19-vaccine-could-destroy-your-immune-system-4326716 |
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"...vaccine does not stop one from getting covid if one's immune system is compromised from other medical issues..."
The biggest culprit causing the immune system of a person to be compromised, besides preexisting comorbidities, has been the experimental mRNA vaccines. Prime example: turbo cancers
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 12:00:06
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Very First Sentence Says it all: "Compromised"... |
URL: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10007716/ |
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there are MANY reasons why someone's immune system might be compromised besides pre-existing comorbidities' including age, ingesting toxins like alcohol, nicotine, and illegal substances, genetics - to name a few. Also, certain conditions such as lupus, rheumatoid arthritis, and Type 1 diabetes, even well-controlled diabetics are immunocompromised to a degree. And there are a lot of people in the usa have either RA or diabetes. And none of those have anything to do with mrna vaccines.
And your reference to 'turbo cancer' is an anti- vaccination myth spread by a number of vaccine opponents and related influencers and has no factual basis except the ones that the far right conspiracy theory types have attributed to it. Casereports don't count- there needs to be careful epidemiological evidence to make such a claim. In fact, there are studies that show cancer tumors decreased following the covid vaccine.
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 10:57:19
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Very First Sentence Says it all: "Compromised"... |
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You're going to have to try just a little bit harder, bh, if you're hoping to have your subjective opinion considered equally alongside scientific factual realities...
The quote says, "...vaccine does not stop one from getting covid if one's immune system is compromised from other medical issues..."
Your choice to then pronounce your own subjective opinion, that the mRNA vaccines are "the biggest culprits for weakening the immune system (besides preexisting comorbidities)" as if it were *fact*.........?
Like I said, gonna hafta do better to have the slightest credibility there...as usual...
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 11:07:29
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sorry shadow, NOT My Opinions, But the Research of OTHERS!(NT) |
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 11:14:43
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sorry, bh...lol...but without a link from a reputable source, OTHERS.. |
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...means exactly as much as your opinion: NOTHING...
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 11:41:11
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: shadow, You're Sad!: From Government's National Institute of Health (NT) |
URL: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC10821957/ |
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 12:05:43
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: From the link you provided Bh |
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" Variability exists among individuals in terms of immune responses. Even within the same population, some individuals may mount stronger immune responses than others, and this can influence susceptibility to variants. There is a lack of reliable information to evaluate immune exhaustion and evasion in immunocompromised patients." and in their conclusion: "A considerable body of evidence indicates a correlation, and some recent studies even suggest causation, highlighting the potential for mRNA COVID-19 boosters to have adverse effects on the immune system. This is particularly relevant in the case of immunocompromised individuals" NOWHERE does it talk about 'turbo cancers' or an increase in cancers due directly to the covid vaccine.
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 13:53:50
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: What in the Hell Do You Think Fights off Viruses That CAUSE Cancer? |
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ANSWER: The immune system!
If per the NIH article "A considerable body of evidence indicates a correlation, and some recent studies even suggest causation, highlighting the potential for mRNA COVID-19 boosters to have adverse effects on the immune system. This is particularly relevant in the case of immunocompromised individuals", then cancer CAN explode into existence, aka, turbo cancer!
Please, quit acting like you're thickheaded!
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 15:11:54
From: The hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: What in the Hell Do You Think Fights off Viruses That CAUSE... |
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and go look at what I posted about the everyday ingredient...
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 12:22:27
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: From the link you provided Bh |
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(Thank you, Hierophant, for both your responses...
I started to try and get words around some of these points, and...y'know that feeling of just *not being able to do it anymore*? lol When I saw her post an actual link to the source of that study she mentioned, I was so surprised, that although I have no doubt she somehow found inspiration to do so, so she could prove there was some type of actual research she based her opinion on, it was just so much easier to praise her for pulling off the link and let it go....lol...)
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 20:28:46
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LOL shadow! |
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 11:51:51
From: shadow, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: shadow, You're Sad!: From Government's National Institute of... |
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Wrong again, m'dear, I'm not sad at all! ;)
I'm happy as a clam, because woohoo, lookatyou! Thanks for following the rules finally and providing a link! lol
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Date: March 05, 2024 at 08:37:17
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Study Finds Those Suffering "Long Covid" Were the... |
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I know so many that are really sick with long Covid. It’s saf
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