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Date: February 26, 2024 at 10:07:49
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: new Maga plans to steal the next election |
URL: https://hartmannreport.com/p/the-new-over-the-top-secret-plan-518 |
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This might be behind a subscription wall, but the subscription is "free"...I'm reprinting entire article here, however:
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The New "Over the Top" Secret Plan on How Fascists Could Win in 2024 Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election & Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November…
THOM HARTMANN FEB 26, 2024
Back on March 13, 2020 — almost exactly four years ago — I wrote an article that was published at alternet.org laying out how Republicans were then, ten months before January 6th, planning to partially repeat the debacle of the election of 1876 by having Vice President Pence refuse to certify swing state votes and thus throw the election to the House to keep Trump in office, no matter how the election went.
When I published the article ten months before January 6th, I received concerned and even alarmed communications from several Democratic strategists and a few elected officials who basically said they didn’t think there was any way Trump would try such an audacious move and, if he did, he wouldn’t get away with it.
But I was right and that was exactly what Trump had up his sleeve. We saw it play out on January 6th. The only thing that stopped him was Pence’s unwillingness to go along with stealing an election.
Now I’m hearing a new story from those same GOP insiders (as well as other commentators) about Trump’s schemes for 2024. Here’s what I’m hearing Republicans are planning in the event Joe Biden wins re-election and Democrats hold the Senate and take the House this November:
First, Republicans need to make sure they’re in control of the House of Representatives on January 6th, 2024, when the new president will be certified.
To do that, even though Democrats might have won enough seats to take back the House in the 2024 election, Speaker Johnson will refuse to swear into Congress on January 3rd a handful of those Democrats, claiming there are “irregularities” in their elections that must be first investigated.
Consider that Johnson is still refusing to swear in Tom Suozzi (who recently won George Santos’ old seat), something Johnson apparently did to maintain enough Republican-majority votes to impeach Alejandro Mayorkas. (Johnson says they’ll swear him in this coming Thursday, but nobody’s holding their breath.)
Like Mitch McConnell withholding Merrick Garland’s nomination to the Supreme Court for over a year, withholding certification of a handful of Democrats would be easy, legal, and completely immoral. There’s nothing Democrats can legally do to stop Speaker Johnson from pulling this off: he can postpone swearing a member in for as long as he wants.
That keeps Speaker “MAGA Moscow Mike” Johnson in charge of the House, so they can also refuse to accept the Electoral College certificates of election from a handful of states where they claim there are “problems.”
Keep in mind, Johnson was the guy who organized the wave of 138 House members who voted not to certify Joe Biden’s election in January of 2020. That’s why Trump wanted him as speaker.
Elise Stefanik, the number 3 person in House Republican leadership, has already refused to say whether she’d vote to certify the presidential election results this November.
Others, like Kentucky Republican Congressman Thomas Massie, are repeatedly mentioning their belief that the House gets to decide who’s president, not the people or even the Electoral College. As Massie posted on X:
“Maine, Colorado, and other states that might try to bureaucratically deny ballot access to any Republican nominee should remember the U.S. House of Representatives is the ultimate arbiter of whether to certify electors from those states.”
In response, Elon Musk posted a one-word comment: “Interesting.”
Then, regardless of how many votes Biden won by, electoral or popular, the House simply refuses to certify the electoral college votes of enough states that the minimum of 270 isn’t reached. Under the 12th Amendment, like with the election of 1876, that throws the election to the House, where each state has one vote.
While a majority of Americans live in a state run by Democrats, a majority of the states themselves are run by Republicans. Each state gets one vote for president in the House, and right now 26 state delegations are GOP-controlled, meaning that a majority of the House would simply vote to put Trump back into the White House, 26-23 (Pennsylvania’s delegation is 50/50). All totally legal.
The Putin/Trump caucus in the House — led by Speaker Johnson — has largely given up on democracy when elections don’t give them power. As outrageous as this scenario sounds, they justify it to themselves as being essential to “save America” from “woke” Democrats.
Johnson has repeatedly said he thinks God Himself put Johnson into the speakership to fulfill some great destiny, comparing himself with Moses: stealing a presidential race “for the greater good” almost certainly qualifies as that. And, although Congress in 2022 raised the number of congressional objectors necessary to stop the certification of a presidential vote, Johnson himself was able to round up more than that number in 2020. This is eminently do-able.
Finally, the Supreme Court long ago ruled that they and the entire US court system have no jurisdiction over “political issues” that the Constitution says must be resolved by Congress. This issue of Congress’ certification of electoral college votes certainly qualifies, so, no matter what the courts might want to say or do, there’s probably no legal tool they can use to block a second Trump presidency under these circumstances.
Rightwing billionaires and neofascists within the GOP are salivating at this prospect. Steve Bannon and Stephen Miller must be giddy.
In one fell swoop they’ll “take back” the government, putting an end to that pesky problem of democracy and voters wanting nice things.
President Trump issues a new Schedule F executive order and suddenly 20,000 or so of the top management of every federal agency find themselves out of a job, being replaced by conservative ideologues who are being vetted by Heritage and other conservative think tanks as you’re reading these words.
Once they have control of both the political and the “deep state” or administrative government, these conservatives intend to set about making the changes they’ve been pushing for years:
— End gay marriage and criminalize being trans. — Outlaw abortion and most forms of birth control. — End the teaching of Black history. — Outlaw DEI and affirmative action of any sort. — Shut down most functions of the EPA so the fossil fuel and chemical industries can do whatever they want to our air and water. — End enforcement of our anti-monopoly laws. — Fire thousands of IRS investigators to make America safe for morbidly rich tax cheats. — Shut down all “green” initiatives and instead “drill, baby drill.” — Sell off public lands and parks to the highest bidders. — Privatize Social Security and end traditional Medicare. — End federal funding for public schools and colleges. — Outlaw unions.
It’s truly breathtaking. They’re committed to abandoning America’s historic embrace of democracy, the “radical new form of government” that our nation’s Founders brought back into the world after it had vanished for almost 3000 years.
But, as Americans have figured out the GOP’s priorities and are disgusted by their obeisance to great wealth and Vladimir Putin, Republicans have decided that winning free and fair elections is for suckers. Stealing them is so much easier.
I don’t see any legal way such a strategy can be stopped, because it’s all based on “legal” technicalities. Like the legal technicality that George W. Bush and Donald Trump both lost the national popular vote but became president anyway (without significant protest from the American people).
When I wrote that article laying out Trump’s plan to have phony electors, et al, back in 2020, people were upset I was “giving him ideas.” Some may similarly say about this article, “Don’t tell them how to do it!”
But this has already been written about extensively by Newsweek’s editor-at-large Tom Rogers, Mark Medish & Joel McCleary for the Washington Spectator, and covered last Friday night an an opening monologue by Joy Reid. It’s public knowledge, although the media seems unwilling to discuss it.
The best way to prevent this from happening is to widely publicize their scheme so public opinion will become so intense that they fear the consequences.
It’s a thin thread holding our republic together, but at least it’s something.
Pass it along.
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 11:36:07
From: Mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new Maga plans to steal the next election |
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Consider the source. Thom Hartman.
Impeccable.
So I'm surprised you put this on WOW. Thank you for the heads up.
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 12:06:09
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new Maga plans to steal the next election |
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well, I'm trying to be consistent. I agree, I think he's a good source. He's in a "group" of broadcasters that sometimes have failed fact cks, however and it causes him to come up "mixed" credibility as being part of that larger group.
Rather than sit on national and argue about it, I'm posting it here so the "message" can get out there. Eventually, other sources will back up the claims (or debunk).
It was too important to not post anywhere, however. Fore warned is fore-armed.
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 18:59:33
From: Mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new Maga plans to steal the next election |
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Thom has been more correct than most, and he has a good heart.
This time I hope he is wrong.
The combination of this and Nazis at CPAC?
No words.
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 10:54:45
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: new Maga plans to steal the next election |
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 14:49:22
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: LOL, So Much For Your Fact Check Crap(NT) |
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Date: February 27, 2024 at 10:50:20
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: LOL, So Much For Your Fact Check Crap(NT) |
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Well, your aversion to fact checks makes total sense considering what total crap I've seen you post. lol
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 10:20:23
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sad, Left Never Wanted to Hear Evidence Re the Theft of 2020 Election |
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Yet, now that the electorate has woken up to the clearly obvious corruption in this Biden administration, such that the Jewish community even realizes this woke Democrat Party doesn't have their back, your side wants to accuse the right of something they didn't do in 2020, and won't need to do in 2024.
Sad.
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 10:39:28
From: The Heirophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: No, what IS sad |
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is that in SPITE of ALL the legal reviews and numerous investigations and court cases, some cases which were even presented to judges appointed by Trump himself, NONE and noone was able to provide clear and undisputed EVIDENCE of any 2020 election wrong doing.
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Date: February 26, 2024 at 14:46:53
From: blindhog 6th sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: You're Awfully Thickheaded, I Told I Couldn't Care Less What You Think(NT) |
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