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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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Oppenheimer: The Real Story Nov 16, 2023 The documentary covers Oppenheimer's contribution to nuclear physics as a professor and leader of the Los Alamos Laboratory. Director: Robin Bextor 0:00 The documentary 2:48 Insights into the privileged and intense upbringing of Robert Oppenheimer, his isolation as a child, and his attempts to distance himself from his Jewish identity. 8:24 Oppenheimer had a privileged childhood but felt trapped, leading him to seek adventure in New Mexico. 16:49 J. Robert Oppenheimer's early life, academic achievements, and political awakening. 23:39 Robert Oppenheimer's involvement with the Communist Party and his role in the Manhattan Project. 31:19 Oppenheimer, a non-Nobel Prize winning physicist, was chosen to lead the Manhattan Project due to his ability to communicate and manage people effectively. 39:44 The social life and atmosphere at Los Alamos during the Manhattan Project, Oppenheimer's role as a leader, and the anxiety and tension leading up to the Trinity test. 49:39 The moral and ethical dilemmas faced by Robert Oppenheimer, the father of the atomic bomb, during the development and use of the bomb during World War II. 57:14 Oppenheimer tries to convince Truman to establish an international atomic agency, but Truman dismisses him and decides to use the bomb. The Soviet Union's atomic bomb and the arrest of Klaus Fuchs lead to discussions about building a hydrogen bomb. 1:02:55 Oppenheimer's opposition to the hydrogen bomb led to suspicions of him working for the Soviets and a security case against him. 1:09:44 J. Robert Oppenheimer's reputation and career were destroyed due to false accusations of being a security risk and working for the Communist Party during the McCarthy era. 1:20:07 Robert Oppenheimer's reputation is restored through an interview on the Ed Murrow show, where he discusses the Institute for Advanced Study and the moral implications of nuclear weapons. 1:23:57 J. Robert Oppenheimer, the director of the Institute for Advanced Studies, was a complex and enigmatic figure who made significant contributions to science and faced challenges in his personal and professional life. 1:32:32 Oppenheimer represents the development of reason turned irrational and destructive, yet he was also a polymath and tried to contain the bomb. |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oppenheimer movie Tidbit
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This home they filmed in Oppenheimer, Is the home I grew up in, and my family lived in for 50 yrs, until my parents passed away. We moved into this home when I was 7 years old. |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer movie Tidbit
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Nice house. |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer movie Tidbit
| well, that's kinda kewl. |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer movie Tidbit
URL: https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/327-Sierra-Woods-Dr-Sierra-Madre-CA-91024/20881997_zpid/
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But wait, there's more. Pics that is. One of those four bedrooms upstairs was mine. I'll know when I find out which one they filmed in. The pick above was my room, the only one with the small windows on the right. It looks a lot better now then it did way back when. |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Another Tidbit about our home
URL: https://www.archdaily.com/91370/ad-classics-gamble-house-greene-greene
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Our family home, built by the Green & Green brothers in 1904, Preluded the Famous Gamble House in Pasadena by four years, (1008). The Gamble house is famed by the movie " Back to the future". |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Here's a weird one
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Our old family home is in a movie about a Scientist that invented the Atomic Bomb. Then the movie " Back to the Future " was filmed at the Gamble House. About a Scientist who invents a way to travel back and forth through Time. He uses Atomic Fusion. ( Mr. Fusion ) |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer movie Tidbit
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nice digs, jeff. Has a lot of character..no wonder they used that house. |
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From: shatterbrain , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
| That commie spy Klaus Fuchs really did Oppy in. |
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From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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Posted by EQF on November 19, 2023 I will be gradually going through that video you mentioned. I had not seen it before. If you have not seen this post then you might take a look at it: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/rollem/messages/23046.html If you do some searching through Internet Archive locations you can find the 7 episode BBS miniseries on Oppenheimer from around 1980. In my opinion, it is as good as and perhaps even better than the recent 3 hour Oppenheimer blockbuster movie. I have watched that BBS presentation probably at least 3 times over the years. It is in black and white. I suspect that in order to have a good understanding of Oppenheimer you almost HAVE to be a scientist yourself. I am a highly experienced scientist. However, I had to view probably more than a dozen Youtube videos including that BBS series to develop some understanding of what Oppenheimer was doing and why he did what he did. One of them is an actual interview with Oppenheimer. The mental picture that you form by looking at those videos just goes back and forth and around and around in circles. He was apparently a little on the crazy side. And, he was not the only member of the international scientific community to share that trait. Of particular interest was the relationship between Oppenheimer and the German scientist and atomic weapons researcher and Nobel Prize winner Werner Heisenberg. Heisenberg is even more difficult to understand than Oppenheimer. According to the Youtube videos, he believed that people in Germany were a superior race and that they should be and likely eventually would be in charge of the world. For that and other reasons, he decided not to accept Oppenheimer's invitation to work in the U.S. doing atomic research. When the three atomic devices were detonated (the first one was a test), Heisenberg reportedly found it impossible to believe that the U.S. had been able to develop those devices without his help. He was captured by U.S. forces around the end of the war. He was then sent to a residence in Great Britain under what was probably a type of house arrest. The international scientific community then gradually forgave him for his war activities and actually forgot about them. And he became something of a hero in the scientific community while at the same time, Oppenheimer was becoming regarded as something of a villain. That is one of the risks connected with getting involved with politics. Heisenberg's theories related to the limits that exist on how much we can know about the location and movement of particles such as electrons and photons are at the core of nuclear physics. He is by far not the only scientist or even the only German scientist who did brilliant and widely recognized research while at the same time having what most people would likely believe is a dangerous philosophy regarding WHAT in our world is important, and WHO is important. These are personal opinions. Regards to all, EQF |
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From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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Posted by EQF on November 19, 2023 That is the BBC miniseries rather than BBS. Hope that won't get us into a war with the British. EQF |
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From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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The BBC has made some great mini series, like the Space Race about Wernher von Braun and his ruskie counterpart Sergei Korolev. |
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From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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Posted by EQF on November 19, 2023 That was an interesting and informative video. It had a few sections that explained a lot. It appears that Oppenheimer was a supporter of using the first atomic weapon on a real city because he thought that when people saw just how destructive such a weapon could be it would deter governments from ever again using such a weapon. I think I saw something in another video that stated that he was against the use of that second weapon. Whether or not he was correct with his thinking that the use of the first weapon was reasonable is something that historians and philosophers will need to debate and perhaps eventually decide. Personally I think that he made the wrong decision about the use of that first weapon. One thing that the video showed is that you DO need to be a scientist in order to understand other scientists. Scientists including Oppenheimer are not as complex as most people suspect. As a consequence, the scientists get over analyzed. I believe that people connected with the video tried to read that tremendous complexity into his personality when it really wasn't that complex. These are personal opinions. Regards to all, EQF |
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From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oppenheimer: The Real Story
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Posted by EQF on November 19, 2023 This is probably the best video that I have seen so far regarding this general subject matter. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-JWxIVVeV98 It amazes me that it was made back in 1965. These are personal opinions. EQF |
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