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Date: November 03, 2023 at 11:39:16
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World

URL: https://www.vice.com/en/article/epvq9k/anomalies-deep-inside-earth-are-wreckage-of-crashed-alien-world-scientists-propose


Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World,
Scientists Propose

"The long-lost remnants of the planet Theia are far beneath our feet.

Scientists have proposed that the wreckage of a long-lost alien world is
buried about 1,800 miles under our feet, reports a new study. This mind-
boggling hypothesis suggests that strange anomalies in Earth’s interior may
be relics of a world that smashed into our planet some 4.5 billion years ago,
and that similar ancient remnants may lurk inside other celestial bodies.

The infant solar system was much wilder and more tumultuous than it is
today, with lots of crashes between small embryonic worlds called
protoplanets. Scientists have long suspected that an ancient protoplanet
known as Theia, which could have been as large as Mars, hurtled into Earth
in this period. This catastrophic collision ejected debris from Theia and Earth
into space, where it eventually coalesced into the Moon, so the theory goes.

Now, scientists led by Qian Yuan, a postdoctoral scholar in geophysics at the
California Institute of Technology, present new evidence that remnants of
Theia may have also become lodged deep in the Earth’s mantle, where they
have survived to the present day. This hypothesis could explain the curious
presence of two massive “blobs” inside Earth known as large low-velocity
provinces (LLVPs), which appear denser than the surrounding mantle in
seismic observations of our planet’s interior, since seismic waves travel
through them at a significantly lower velocity than in surrounding material.

Yuan and his colleagues “show that LLVPs may represent buried relics of
Theia mantle material (TMM) that was preserved in proto-Earth’s mantle
after the Moon-forming giant impact” and note that “similar mantle
heterogeneities caused by impacts may also exist in the interiors of other
planetary bodies,” according to a study published on Wednesday in Nature.

“The initial condition of Earth may play a crucial role in Earth's evolution and
many uniquenesses,” Yuan told Motherboard in an email. “And that initial
condition is widely believed to be set by the Moon-forming impact.”

Yuan first started pondering whether the LLVPs might be remnants of Theia
years ago while he was pursuing his PhD at Arizona State University. He
developed the concept with his colleagues using geodynamical models, and
formally presented it at the 52nd Lunar and Planetary Science Conference in
2021.

Now, Yuan and his team have built on those initial findings by running much
more advanced simulations of the giant impact that likely formed the Moon,
as well as the long-term fallout of this clash inside the infant Earth. The
researchers investigated whether the LLVPs, which are each several hundred
miles across, could feasibly be remnants of Theia that became entrapped in
our planet as it reeled from the collision 4.5 billion years ago.

“The significant improvements we have this time are from the Moon-forming
impact simulations,” explained Yuan, who credited his co-authors Hongping
Deng and Jacob Kegerreis for the advanced models.

“Both of their impact simulations show this collision did not melt the whole
Earth's mantle, and the lower half of Earth's mantle is mostly solid and it
captures an amount of Theia's mantle (~2% of Earth's whole mass ) that is
consistent with the Earth's present blobs,” he added.

In other words, the team’s new and improved models support the idea that
the LLVPs may be the remains of Theia, which helped to create the Moon
when it careened into Earth. In addition, Yuan and his colleagues pointed to
evidence that the blobs contain primordial elements that predate the Moon-
forming impact event. This hints that the LLVPs must be extremely ancient, a
timeline that does not fit as well with explanations that suggest the blobs are
masses of subducted oceanic crust, or remnants of Earth’s differentiation
phase.

It’s utterly wild to imagine that we are all going about our daily lives while
continent-sized splinters of a shattered world lurk beneath our feet, which
may even be leaking extraterrestrial materials to surface basalt through
plumes in the interior of Earth. But while this hypothesis is highly compelling,
it will take much more research and experimentation to bear it out.

To that end, Yuan and his colleagues hope that parts of Theia may be
preserved on the surface of the Moon, which is far more accessible than the
deep layer of Earth where the LLVPs exist.

“I look forward to seeing future missions on the Moon to bring back its
mantle rocks, which are very likely to come from the impactor Theia
according to the majority of Moon-forming impact simulations.” Yuan said. “If
the lunar mantle rock and LLVP-related basalts share the same chemical
signatures, they should both originate from Theia.”

Moreover, the team noted that other planets may also contain the fossils of
ancient worlds inside their bellies, given that impacts appear to be very
common in many early star systems. NASA’s InSight mission to Mars, which
ended last year, has revealed unprecedented details about the red planet’s
interior, and future missions could potentially detect the relics of
extraterrestrial worlds within other extraterrestrial worlds, like otherworldly
nesting dolls.

“I've been talking to people who work on InSight data about the possibility,
but since it only has one seismometer, I imagine it will be very very
challenging to observe the 3D structures of the blobs if Mars has them,”
Yuan concluded. “Most of the InSight work is still working on 1D structures of
its interior, but since Mars has been suggested to have had a giant impact to
form the crustal dichotomy, it may have related heterogeneities, which needs
future more seismometers to test the hypothesis.”


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Date: November 06, 2023 at 09:46:17
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World


"Definition of a scientist: A man who understood nothing, until there was nothing left to understand."

--Jonathan Matthias


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Date: November 03, 2023 at 14:43:10
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World


i speculate that the plume that created the hawaiian island chain is a remnant of that wreckage...


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Date: November 03, 2023 at 16:29:14
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World


It seems if that were true, the islands would have remnants of the large low-
velocity provinces (LLVPs), signatures of their "primordial elements".


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Date: November 03, 2023 at 17:29:17
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Anomalies Deep Inside Earth Are Wreckage of Crashed Alien World


i speculate the LLVPs are well below the plume upwelling...


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Date: November 04, 2023 at 12:12:07
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: plumes & blobs

URL: https://www.space.com/moon-impact-remnant-earths-core


you might be right!

"Traces of these blobs could make their way to Earth's surface with the aid
of mantle plumes, giant mushroom-shaped pillars of super-heated rock that
rise up from near Earth's core. Prior work suggested that Iceland and the
island chains of Hawaii and the Galapagos formed as tectonic plates slowly
drifted over mantle plumes, which seared overlying material like a blowtorch.

"Some traces of the Theia relics could be brought to surface volcanoes by
mantle plumes," Yuan said.

Yuan is now investigating whether this pair of blobs may have helped spur on
geological activity unique to Earth. Our planet's surface is made of massive
tectonic plates, and the way in which these slabs drift, known as plate
tectonics, drives earthquakes and volcanoes, creates mountain ranges and
islands, and liberates vital elements from rocks. The strongest driving force
behind plate tectonics is subduction — when one plate dives under another
— and Earth is so far the only planet where subduction is known to occur.
Yuan aims to see if these two blobs in the deep mantle could help drive
subduction."


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Date: November 05, 2023 at 21:44:35
From: EQF, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dinosaurs - The Gifts That Keep On Giving - Nov. 5, 2023


Posted By EQF On November 5, 2023

Considering all of the chaos existing when our solar system was young it seems to be something of a miracle that the Earth exists and that it is in a stable orbit around the Sun.

Looking at other parts of our ancient history, the dinosaurs might be described as the "Gifts That Keep On Giving."

It seems that on a fairly regular schedule, every few years, various scientists or groups of scientists generate a new theory for exactly why the (second group of) dinosaurs disappeared after that giant rock hit the Earth in the Gulf of Mexico area.

One of the strange things is that many of those theories sound quite reasonable. And the scientists keep publishing papers filled with loads of data that support their latest theories.

The most recent theory that I have seen attempts to explain how crocodiles survived that disaster when many other animals including the dinosaurs disappeared.

The theory proposes that the collision resulted in extraordinary amounts of dust being hurled into the atmosphere. That then led to the amount of sunlight hitting the Earth to be reduced followed by a global reduction in temperature that destroyed a good percentage of the Earth's plants and animals.

An earlier theory proposed that small rocks hurled into space returned to the Earth. They then got red hot as they entered the atmosphere and essentially roasted land animals around the world to death. Most of the surviving animals were relatively small ones that could hide from the oven environment by burrowing into the ground.

Yet another theory proposed that hydrogen sulfide gas possibly associated with material hurled into the atmosphere possibly aided by volcano eruptions, poisoned almost everything that did not live deep in the ocean.

As proposed, even after all of these years and decades, there appears to be no end to those interesting theories.

The dinosaurs seem to be the "Gifts That Keep On Giving."

Natural history museums are not the only entities that have prospered partly because of the two dinosaur ages.

These are personal opinions.

Regards to all,

EQF (EarthQuake Forecasting)


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