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Date: May 12, 2016 at 22:36:44
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The LHC starts smashing more protons at the highest energy yet

URL: World's largest particle smasher set to push physics into unknown


Show time is on, May 30, 2016. They will be looking for supersymmetry and other dimensions, in earnest. (scroll down for link at bottom)

'The Higgs fits in with the so-called Standard Model—the mainstream theory of all the fundamental particles that make up matter and the forces that govern them.

But the anomalies, or "bumps", seen in the data last December could indicate something completely new.

Going beyond the Standard Model would "mean that there is yet another unbelievable idea out there. Something that is totally unthinkable," Sphicas said.

The LHC, he said, could unveil whole new dimensions, help explain dark matter and dark energy, of which we have no understanding but which together make up 95 percent of the universe.

The giant lab might also prove the exotic theory of supersymmetry, SUSY for short, which suggests the existence of a heavier "sibling" for every particle in the universe.

The unexpected excess pair of photons spotted last year could be a larger cousin of the Higgs, according to one theory.'

"Who knows, maybe there's a whole Higgs family out there," Sphicas said.

But to determine whether the observed data "bump" is merely a statistical fluctuation or could actually be the first cracks in the Standard Model, much more data is needed.'
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'The LHC ran for six months last year at the new energy level of 13 teraelectronvolts (TeV), but since the machine was just getting started again, it was not pushed to create the maximum number of collisions.

Once it gets started again, the machine at its peak should see two beams each containing around 273,600 billion protons shoot through the massive collider in opposite directions, slamming into each other with a joint energy level of 13 TeV to produce two billion collisions a second.

"What we are looking for are very rare phenomena, (and) when you are looking for very rare phenomena you need a very large number of collisions," Frederick Bordry, CERN director for accelerators and technology, told AFP.'

Hokay, good luck with that guys!

Here is the link to the particulars of the May 30th start up, at higher energies. Yikes. I remember that one of the potentiators of the 3-11 quake in Japan was speculated to be a Muon facility test of a muon beam that was fired underground, around the same time of the quake. Well no matter, hopefully this will go well and they will find something other than a 'big bang' effect or a push come to an unexpected shove somewhere. I mean, who needs to see a BB effect or other dimensions for that matter? There is so much we don't know! If the entire control room is wrapped and rolled into another dimension, I hope they know how to drop inter-dimensional bread crumbs or maybe weasels to get back again- :D

'Firing up the LHC is not like throwing a light switch, Heuer said, stressing the delicacy of the process and pointing out that the two beams that will be shooting around the loop together will have the power to melt a tonne of copper. (Say whaaat?)

"We don't want to do that. So we are better off increasing the intensity and the power of the beams step by step," he said.'

http://phys.org/news/2015-03-cern-revamped-particle-smasher-ready.html


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Date: May 13, 2016 at 12:48:54
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: smashed potatoes


Hi Polydactyl,

thanks for the CERN note.

I find it quite funny that people of substantial brain power actually
believe that you can gain an understanding of the functional
principles of our world be destroying the very particles that are
supposed to be its basic constituents. Their theories are so
complicated that no one understands them to any depth except
perhaps the Higgs boson himself.

If you ever meet a CERNer you may want to ask him/her to explain
the standard model in five minutes. My bet is that said CERNer will
speedily get away leaving behind a bunch of destroyed protons.

May I suggest that anyone could invent a supersymmetric hyper-
anomaly theory. The main requisite is you belong to the club or at
least you pretend to not question closed club thinking. Then you are
in business. In the backyard of your villa you hold a bunch of
meetings where every participant contributes at least one
uncomprehensible fact. You collect those facts, assemble them in a
good looking pdf-file, put it on the net and voila: Polydactyl's North
Bay supersymmetric hyper-anomaly theory (PNBSSHAT) is all set to
conquer the sciences.

Your first experiment will be the high energy smashed potato 3d
distribution. The setup is quite simple. You build a linear or round
machine which can accelerate at least two potatoes in opposite
directions. When they have reached a sufficiently high speed you tell
the machine to open the door to the planned meeting space. About
a fraction of a second later potato #1 will meet potato #2 in a most
fantastic fashion as they will annihilate the very physical structures
which are the basic building blocks of themselves. Trillions of pico-
potatons appear, by magic of kinetic energy intermingling with
potato matter.

The measurement process is also quite simple. The potato meeting
space is surrounded by a full sphere camera which every pico-
second takes a snapshot of the big potato bang.

The stacks of 3d images will fill hundreds of computers and bring
work to many students and professors alike. For years to come they
will analyse the smashed potato optical sequence (SPOS) as it will be
called by the scientific community.

Ten years and many repeats of said experiment later you claim #1
that your experiment unequivocally proves that potato matter rules
the world and #2 a new accelator is required to increase the
smashing energy so that not one trillion potatons emerge from your
primordial smashed soup but a trillion trillion trilli-potatons and #3
your understanding of how our universe functions depends on #1
and #2.

Then the cycle repeats. You sit in your backyard, with home made
cinnamon twirls, hot cocoa and together with your fellow smashed
potato experimenters celebrate ten years of potato smashing.


Meanwhile not one bit of knowledge about the structural integrity of
the original potatoes has been gained. The very information that
you, as the principal investigator, set out to discover was destroyed
as a consequence of the smashing process. However, this enormous
contradiction does not matter as you still have tomatoes to smash,
or broccoli. And a salad smasher would be the ultimate experiment
for years to come because it may contain a Higgs or two.

In any case make sure that you always follow Heuer's advice: "...we
are better off increasing the intensity and the power of the beams
step by step" .

sequoia


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Date: May 19, 2016 at 22:40:30
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: smashed potatoes

URL: Finding the God Pattern, Not the God Particle


Your vignette of CERN's activities is a smashing ROFLMAO! Nassim Haramein thinks similarly, you'll be happy to know- :)

'He reminds us that first we thought cells were the smallest thing, then the atom, then the electron, then quarks, then the X-boson, and so on – disbelieving there could be anything smaller. What becomes obvious to some is that physicists are merely dividing space – and there is much more space in the Universe than matter. Haramein says we can keep dividing until we are blue in the face – spending trillions more on colliders that can handle even smaller particles, but it would be a total waste of time.

Sacred GeomIt goes the other direction as well. We once thought our planet was the biggest thing around, then we realized we were part of a solar system, then a singular Universe, and so on. Now we know, just like Russian dolls, a Universe can be imbedded in a larger nested, and so on, to infinity. He suggests looking instead, at a fundamental pattern for creation, instead of a fundamental particle.'

In your scene of the CERNers sitting in their meeting space for the big smash-up, you may already know, a likely classic response when the first hint of potato spittletrons hits their faces:



I like Christina Sarich's article until her last sentence: 'It seems modern scientists have been barking up the wrong tree, and the ‘secret’ of creation has been under our noses all along.' Dear popular science writers, please do not sum up, what researchers have done and what they are going to do by using mixed metaphor descriptions that have nothing to do with what they ARE doing, LOL. What Higgs wanted to do was find out more about the space in between the particles we do know about, towards a field theory of what that 'space' consists of, yet, one side leaned all the way to study the tiniest dots within that 'space', while others lean all the way to the other side of the continuum to study what looks like a pattern of 'bubbles' (yeah, ok, I saw that in a ufo dream), the structures that contain those dots and spaces. I used to say and still do, 'the truth sits in the middle and knows'.

Meanwhile, larger and larger colliders are in development plans right NOW, like the giant Chinese project and the U.S. has a new one too. The race is on to build the biggest, largest collider EVER. It's almost like we are experiencing oxygen deprivation, LOL, ya know? Instead of moving on in the progression of ideas and applied critical thinking, there we are, late at night, munching the cocoa twirls, obsessing on all the permutations and identification of tiny particles. Even the right brained systems thinkers are somewhat limited in the same way, in not entirely integrating, simultaneously, both linear and relative (associative) thinking in physics. Einstein was a forward, whole brained thinker, the likes of which we haven't really seen in a long time. Either that, or the funding of real science becomes a cartoon in the hands of whole brain-challenged bureaucrats! Then again, maybe we are devolving and used to be more integrated, i.e., a combination of relative(associative)-spatial big picture and linear- mathematical small picture thinking.

There seems to be a disturbance in our proprioception of the world around us. (Maybe we are trying to unconsciously create a Dyson sphere we can live on, after we ignite earth's core, following a severe lull in our sun's energy output, due to having gone there loooong ago? The gaps in our knowledge and over focus on particles may turn us, instead, into an ICE-9 planet (crystalline water)- ;) I've pondered that group human trauma may be hard wired into our brains and evolution follows, or not, likely not for most life forms over eons of cosmic time. We are no match for the sun or it's particles. We survive on this planet due to our protection from the sun, not due to embracing and becoming one with the sun. The solar cults started by staring at the sun too long and they continue!


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Date: May 23, 2016 at 10:22:49
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: potato spittletrons


Hi Polydactyl,

have you patented your potato spittletron technology yet? If not
hurry up so that the CERNers don't steal your advanced potato
smashing detector.

A real answer to your response would easily amount to a 199 page
book since there are so many details in it.

Haramein is on the right track with his suggestion to search for a
fundamental pattern of creation.

Sadly enough physics has been on the wrong track for around a
century. It has turned into a circus of people who pretend to advance
knowledge by building ever bigger machines such as those
consuming as much energy as the entire canton of Geneva. They
might as well build a bigger hammer about the size of the Empire
state building and do a pea smash-up experiment in Manghattan.
No doubt no pea will be found after it meets the big hammer and not
any part of the spatially harmonic structure of the pea either. Yet the
principal pea hammer investigator will later claim that the 351
scientists in the group deserve no less than the Nobel prize for
advancing the knowledge of humankind to zero pea.

And while Einstein may have been a whole brained thinker he failed
to acknowledge that the speed-of-light experiments of Dayton Miller
provided substantial evidence against his theories of relativity. If, as
Miller's experiments appear to prove, the speed of light is not a
constant then Einstein's theories are utterly wrong. Yet to this day
Einstein is handled as the super-luminous figure in the sciences.

None of the late night cocoa twirl munching particle hunters has
provided a better understanding of the cosmos around us.
Nevertheless they receive around 1000000000 SwissFrancs a year
for their assertion that endlessly investing more time and money will
eventually reveal the essence of the universe, your potato
spittletrons.

And yes, science used to more integrated several centuries ago
because the curiousity of bright individuals was the driving force. As
time went by money and power have to a great extent replaced
curiousity in the sciences. Those insiders with good and reliable
connections to the moneycrats will get all "resources" they want
while the general public gets dumb and dumber from being
repeatedly exposed to CERNical potato spittletron science.

Welcome in the future!

sequoia


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