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Date: September 13, 2015 at 14:22:33
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: DEAD RECKONING: Keep Your Little Man Intact |
URL: http://lostcoastoutpost.com/2015/sep/13/dead-reckoning-keep-your-little-man-intact/ |
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There’s a lengthy list of examples in my life where following my wife’s advice from the beginning would have spared me much in the way of discomfort and delay, but luckily, with one very important subject, she managed to convince me right off the bat.
We were married in the late 1990s, and within weeks of exchanging our vows, we were with child. It was a happy honeymoon in a cottage on the beach, and that’s apparently all it takes.
As we progressed through the months of gestation, we belabored many of the common questions new parents face: choice of a name; identification of gender; overall health concerns; and yes, whether to sever our male child’s foreskin.
Ach. It’s not a subject most people want to discuss over Sunday scones, but bear with me. As one of the vast majority of circumcised adults in this country, I initially believed that the most important factor was that the son resemble the father, so that there’ll be no question of abnormalcy, and no awkward explanations to fret over in later years.
So initially my mind was made up. Amy, however, began what became months’ worth of research on the relative pros and cons of both sides.
Medically, it’s a wash. For every source that tells you circumcision prevents infection or reduces the likelihood of STDs, there’s another equally reputable source that will tell you circumcision increases the chances for a bevy of other complications and issues later on.
Also, what matters is not so much that the son resemble the father, but that he fits in with the majority of his peer group, Amy found.
But for Amy, interestingly, her mind was finally made up when she researched the even more horrific tradition of female circumcision, something she’d previously been unaware existed.
In some cultures, not to name any names, female children are mutilated to limit or eliminate their future abilities to enjoy sex, in the name of a twisted and despotic morality that defined a woman’s sexual pleasure as some kind of abomination.
Psshaw. As if.
Logically, while male circumcision is somewhat less dramatic and injurious than what is done to females, Amy realized there’s no real substantive difference between the two procedures.
Hacking and slashing at someone’s junk is wrong, no matter how you cut it.
I was reluctant at first, but sensing her passion over the issue, and having no real problem with foreskins as a rule, I went along with her decision to leave our boys intact.
Interestingly, the country as a whole has followed suit. Today only 33 percent of babies are being circumcised, compared to 56 percent five years ago and 90 percent sixty years ago, according to the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.
And as I’ve grown older, and less prone to follow cultural norms just because it’s what you’re supposed to do, I’m glad we refrained.
According to a recent article in the Huffington Post, circumcision involves removing what amounts to 50 square centimeters of erogenous tissue that forms a sleeve around the penis.
Basically, that means I lost a healthy chunk of junk that could’ve given me all kinds of pleasure these last 39 years. And why? Not because of the Jews, despite what Abraham did or did not do.
Rather, it was because people were morally misguided and thought that by snipping off the foreskin, they could cure masturbation. Luckily, the cure didn’t take with me.
I’m not alone. According to one study, fully 10 percent of circumcised men wish they’d been left with their hoodies intact. Unfortunately, there’s no way we’ll ever really know what was lost.
Food for thought, though: Most people assume that removing the foreskin is merely a cosmetic simplicity, involving a mostly numb piece of surface tissue. But it’s not that simple. The foreskin of babies is actually fused to the head of the penis — to make circumcision possible, doctors have to forcefully separate the foreskin from the glans by inserting a probe and roughly scraping the tissue all the way around.
How does such early and awful penile trauma affect the psychology of boys growing up? Hell if I know, but it seems like a question that should damn well be answered.
Ultimately, the argument for us boils down to this: Every single inch of our babies seemed perfect upon their emergence from the womb — their blessed and delicate fingers that squeeze your thumbs so lightly and so early; their pink cheeks and fat thighs; the sweet scent of new life that lingers on their skin, on their clothes, and in your heart.
If all these things give us such joy, such parental satisfaction, I’m convinced that we need to think long and hard about any tradition or procedure that dictates we immediately mutilate our children upon birth, in the name of some kind of moral or medical improvement.
As is usually the case, a little research goes a long way to prove that such conventional wisdom is really what should be cut loose and tossed in the red biohazard bags.
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James Faulk is a writer living in Eureka. He can be reached at faulk.james@yahoo.com.
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:18:52
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it may be why there is so much infidelity among Jewish men |
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they just can't seem to find any satisfaction with their mutilated genitalia
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:44:40
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it may be why there is so much infidelity among Jewish men |
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Most NON Jewish American men are circumcised..at least
those born in hospitals...and we know there is no
infidelity in them or even the non circumcised men...they
are as solid as a rock and faithful till the end..not...
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:12:42
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: all i'm suggesting is that the condition causes desensitization (NT) |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:50:34
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it may be why there is so much infidelity among Jewish men |
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And before you jump in my sh!t about my post...My husband
is intact as well as my boys...they just had to learn to
keep their junk clean!
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:15:46
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: "BLUNT TALK" had a hilarious episode on this topic last night (NT) |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:21:23
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "BLUNT TALK" had a hilarious episode on this topic last... |
URL: http://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2015/08/patrick-stewart-circumcision |
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“All my life I believed that I was circumcised,” said the 75-year-old Shakespearian actor.
Stewart’s wife thought he was mistaken, and after asking his doctor, Stewart learned that she was correct.
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:58:08
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "BLUNT TALK" had a hilarious episode on this topic... |
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Okay...you have to promise NOT to laugh at my
ignorance..My husband and I have been married for 32
years...I was 22 when we married..he is 18 years my
senior...you do the math...but he is intact as I
said..when our son was born, six years later...I said I
didn't think it was medically necessary to have him done,
but how would he feel growing up with you (husband)
circumcised? My husband asked, what are talking about,
I'm not circumcised! I said oh...I thought as you got
older the skin just sagged around it...no kidding!!! I
really thought that! Duh...
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Date: September 30, 2015 at 15:50:01
From: Judy/W, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: DEAD RECKONING: Keep Your Little Man Intact |
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Yes we do perform this horror on baby boys; but the Jewish do it to 13yr old boys during a big party for the occasion! I never bought into this "custom, finding it barbaric and not necessary ". Judy
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Date: September 27, 2015 at 11:39:09
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: by the way ... thanks for posting on this "touchy" subject (NT) |
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Date: September 16, 2015 at 18:36:34
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: right on |
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I think me and zuma are the only ones who have posted about this horrid custom that keeps going on....
our finn men are NOT circumcised....I wasn't born with three breasts, -we were ALL born with the necessary body parts.....
all the men who have gone thru the mutilation cause that's what it is KNOW they are missing a part of their body....ouch...
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Date: October 02, 2015 at 15:14:55
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: wow |
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I just checked out this board and voila, -thank you all for your responses...
yes, -what can I say...
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Date: October 07, 2015 at 09:56:34
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 18 years on boards and this the first time i've seen "it" discussed |
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kudos to our host for raising this important issue ... my wife and I have been watching "Masters Of Sex" on tv and as far as we know ... sex education among adults remains a "verboten" subject ... though "titillation" is high on the mass media agenda ... trouble is most don't see any difference
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Date: September 27, 2015 at 11:36:32
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: i suspect that the foreskin makes for a more sensitive lover |
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all the nerve endings underneath the foreskin are uncovered during intercourse and contribute to making slow progress which seems to be the mode that is most appreciated among our female partners ... savor the moments fellows!
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Date: September 30, 2015 at 10:24:17
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: i suspect that the foreskin makes for a more sensitive lover |
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You have that backward.
The foreskin covers the sensitive glans and protects it
from chafing and stimulation from clothing. This makes
it hypersensitive during intercourse, leading to
premature climax.
Roger
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:25:54
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: maybe if you were dipping your wick on a regular basis |
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you wouldn't be having that problem ... at the risk of sounding boastful ... I used to be able to literally go "all night long" once I had experienced the initial ejaculation
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:19:55
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: maybe if you were dipping your wick on a regular basis |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:24:15
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: well i'll be dogged ... she always "pretended" that she liked it (NT) |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:26:47
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: well i'll be dogged ... she always "pretended" that she... |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:31:23
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: do you think all women "pretend" to like having sex? (NT) |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 09:40:01
From: sher, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: do you think all women "pretend" to like having sex?... |
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Not all...but most..we just aren't wired as you men
are..but it is important to you guys..it is a part of who
and what you are. Therefore it is important to us, if
that makes sense..and it's not that we don't "like it"
per say...it's just hard to get as enthusiastic about it
as you boys do...:-), but that my take on it..
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Date: October 02, 2015 at 13:35:46
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: but if it's any consolation to you ... at my age it's all irrelevant |
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My nookie days are over, my pilot light is out.
What used to be my sex appeal, is now my water spout.
Time was when, on its own accord, from my trousers it would spring.
But now I've got a full time job, to find the fucking thing.
It used to be embarrassing, the way it would behave.
For every single morning, it would stand and watch me shave.
Now as old age approaches, it sure gives me the blues.
To see it hang its little head, and watch me tie my shoes.
-- Willie Nelson
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 13:06:54
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: i only ask because most of the women i've had "relations" with |
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craved sex like a junkie craves his junk ... but then they were all able to achieve orgasm and some multiple orgasms ... clitoral and vaginal
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 13:01:12
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: does your lover bring you to orgasm on a regular basis? (NT) |
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Date: September 30, 2015 at 11:08:40
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: do you write from experience or is this hypothetical? (NT) |
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 20:55:52
From: Roger Hunter, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: do you write from experience or is this hypothetical? (NT) |
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I can only speak for my mutilated self.
Roger
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Date: October 02, 2015 at 11:07:50
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: consider that an exposed glans is subject to constant exposure |
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which ... from a realistic viewpoint ... would tend to desensitize the nerve endings at the base of the glans ... on the other hand ... the foreskin ... which protects the glans and the tissues at the base of the glans ... allow ... when uncovered by sexual intercourse ... the stimulation of these tissues when they come in contact with the labia, clitoris, and vagina of a woman ... yes ... this contact does lead to immediate arousal and what you term "premature" ejaculation ... but this contact also causes heightened pleasure for subsequent acts of sexual intercourse and prolonged orgasm following the first orgasm ... in plain language ... a young uncircumcised man can ejaculate and maintain an erection for further arousal of himself and his partner for extended periods of time
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Date: September 22, 2015 at 00:04:14
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: as usual |
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not one response hearing the truth lol...
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Date: September 27, 2015 at 11:31:01
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: for the record ... i am uncut and damn glad i was not maimed |
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when I was twenty-four I met the man who delivered me and I thanked him for his kind services
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Date: October 05, 2015 at 00:16:08
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: for the record ... i am uncut and damn glad i was not maimed |
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your a very lucky boy....all my friends here who have given birth have have made damn sure NOTHING is cut off their baby boys...
the latest one who is a professor from uc berkeley, - her son is turning three years old and has all his goodies intact lol...the father is stanford educated...
they KNEW not to mutilate their son....I wish more people were like that....
cool, you met the doc who delivered you...yeeee....
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Date: October 23, 2015 at 14:42:58
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: yeeee indeed! (NT) |
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Date: September 13, 2015 at 19:36:32
From: Listen'n2, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: DEAD RECKONING: Keep Your Little Man Intact |
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Hardhats, let's ride!
"90 percent sixty years ago", and to think that in recent years I've been made to feel, the freak lol
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Date: October 01, 2015 at 08:20:50
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Hardhats, let's ride! (NT) |
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