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Date: March 21, 2015 at 18:45:52
From: BJ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors



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Date: March 21, 2015 at 23:29:22
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors


Hi BJ,

Interesting experiment. But the skeptic in me has to ask what kind of actual work energy in watts this generates. There are large voltages all around us in the atmosphere. For example when you get a static shock touching something you are probably feeling roughly 25,000 volts. But it is an extremely low current and a tiny fraction of a watt.

What I believe these people are doing is capturing this high voltage static out of the atmosphere and using it to slowly charge a capacitor. At the tiny current it probably takes a while for the system to charge enough to power a 60 watt light bulb.

Cheers

Jim


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Date: March 22, 2015 at 21:15:43
From: BJ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors


It is a start in the production of electricity from atmospheric sources. Tesla

Just think what could happen if the Solyndra money was used to further this project


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Date: March 23, 2015 at 07:46:48
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors


Hi BJ,

I dunno. Solyndra went thru a huge amount of money including from the taxpayers, but their solar units did produce energy from a compact unit. Their failure is that they were too pricey. I don't see how this type of device would do any better. You have to capture static electricity over a large area to produce a very small amount of electricity. From the video they have multiple towers with a large amount of cabling and huge capacitors just to capture enough electricity over a period of time to power a small fan or light.

They don't provide details of the watts per hour but I'm betting the expensive Solyndra units would beat out this type of power generation in both dollar per unit and watts per dollar.

Cheers

Jim


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Date: March 23, 2015 at 17:08:01
From: BJ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors


Do you understand this is a research project? If viable the energy would be harvested 24 hrs/day.

Solyndra was economically doomed from the beginning.


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Date: March 23, 2015 at 22:01:45
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Graphene/Graphite Atmospheric Electricity Collectors


Hi BJ,

Yes, I understand it is a research project. Ion Power Group claims to be a think tank and they are patenting quite a few ideas. I'm just skeptical that this is a viable technology. It may very well be doomed from the beginning more so than Solyndra as it has to capture charges from a large area for a small amount of power. At least Solyndra units generated decent power... just at too high a cost per unit to ever be economically sound. With these guys they have enormous capacitors and multiple poles with lines just to capture enough energy to run a small motor.

I have doubts they will ever be able to generate large amounts of power or that they could do it in an economically viable way.

Cheers

Jim


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