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Date: August 08, 2014 at 16:29:28
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "The Difference Between Scientists And Engineers"


"For an engineer to keep his job, he has to be brutally correct and honest -- all the time. Products and reality don’t lie."

"For a scientist to keep his job, he has to obtain funding. This is generally accomplished by convincing politicians that something you want to study is important, and frequently involves exaggeration and/or fabrication."

The Difference Between Scientists And Engineers by Steven Goddard

How I published a fake paper, and why it is the fault of our education system

Pune techie busts science seminar racket



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Date: September 13, 2014 at 18:52:34
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "The Difference Between Scientists And Engineers"


fascinating, -two of my brothers are engineers and two of my nephews are recent engineering graduates...cool...

my sister's husband is a ship building engineer, -you can imagine in Finland that's very serious business since many of these current , massive ocean going ships are built right there....

the last time I visited home during the summer time there was the huge Hansa week, -all the big ships from that era gathered in one place, -from all over Europe, -the engineering that went into creating these ships was amazing....

and that was a long time ago....
I'm not into the mathematics but into the science of it all if it makes any sense ??


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Date: September 29, 2014 at 05:39:24
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ships are cunning monsters and not to be trusted (NT)


(NT)


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Date: September 29, 2014 at 12:16:00
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I love ships


since I love the oceans....by the way, most people do not realize how small the crews inside the huge tankers are....

at night they are like ghosts moving on the Bay, just a few lights visible....

I'd not go inside a submarine though....the Vikings were such explorers, -most likely discovered America way before Columbus did....


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Date: August 09, 2014 at 08:54:19
From: snodrop, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: "The Difference Between Scientists And Engineers"


Sent this to all my kids and a teacher friend of mine...
how many times do you think it happens here in the west?


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Date: August 09, 2014 at 11:07:27
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: in academia the mantra is "publish or perish"


and the pressure is enormous to pump out papers ... the more the better and to hell with quality ... quantity seems to be what they want now ... I had my graduate work published ... but it required one revision and two sessions of peer review before it was accepted for publication ... but all that happened more than twenty-five years ago ... it appears that standards have "slipped" somewhat since those days


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Date: August 09, 2014 at 13:35:37
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Kardashian Index

URL: The Kardashian Index


Hi HG,

> in academia the mantra is "publish or perish"

That's not always true as shown by the Kardashian Index.

LOL... please don't misunderstand, I'm not disagreeing with you here. But there were recent articles about scientists and what they called the Kardashian Index about how a person who has made no contribution to society in any way, shape or form is one of the most popular personalities in social media.

"I am concerned that phenomena similar to that of Kim Kardashian may also exist in the scientific community. I think it is possible that there are individuals who are famous for being famous. - Neil Hall"

With social media some scientists instead of publish or perish are taking the twitter or perish approach as their fame in social media becomes disproportionate to the amount of work they have done in their field.

See blog post at link.

Cheers

Jim


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Date: September 13, 2014 at 19:11:29
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: JTRIV/your killing me lol...


re the empty Kardashian phenomena, -how on earth is it possible that a person within a family releases a soft porn vid that catches on with the dumboes within the popular culture and it all accelerates making them all newsworthy ???

am I missing something ???
there has to be something SERIOUSLY wrong with the people who follow these people or pay any attention to them...

though re science, I read today by 2017 , the 90 million animals that are used within various research are being eliminated by these micro lab created " human beings ", -literally the size of a micro chip ?

I'm all for eliminating the suffering of the lab animals but what are these tiny " human beings " ?

and how are they being created ??
I read the arcticle and many of the people seem to think there are already human sized beings that were created for the same purpose....

do you recall Spielberg's movie AL ( artificial intelligence ) from a few years ago, -the film was not a commercial success , -I feel it was way ahead of time and correctly depicted what's coming up....

looking at a person, -are you an organic being ??


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Date: August 08, 2014 at 16:35:35
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: ask Doctor Science ... "He knows more than you do."

URL: http://youtu.be/Elpbs6kb8Ys



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Date: August 10, 2014 at 12:49:34
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: fake degree and bogus scholars ... all in the name of "science"



academic journal retracts articles over "peer review ring" with bogus scholars

fake degrees and commercialisation Of universities


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5054


Date: August 12, 2014 at 14:17:06
From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: fake engineer get 10 years in clink

URL: Maker of fake bomb detector gets 10 years in prison


Maybe all proponents of pseudo science deserve the same :-)


London (CNN) -- The maker of a fake bomb detector that investigators
say put lives at risk was sentenced Thursday to 10 years in prison by a
London court.
James McCormick, 57, marketed his ADE 651 units to government
agencies and private companies around the world, including in Iraq, with
sales exceeding $50 million by his own admission.


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Date: August 12, 2014 at 14:19:33
From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: The Worst: Stupid Engineering Mistakes


1. St. Francis Dam, 1928
Self-taught engineer William Mulholland built this LA dam on a defective foundation and ignored the geology of the surrounding canyon. He also dismissed cracks
that formed as soon as the reservoir behind it was filled. Five days later, it ruptured, killing 450 people and destroying entire towns (along with Mulholland’s career).

2. Kansas City Hyatt walkways, 1981
Walkways crisscrossing the hotel’s multistory atrium collapsed, domino-style, raining debris and hundreds of people onto the packed dance contest below. The
cause: grossly negligent design and use of beams that could support only 30 percent of the load.

3. Vasa, 1628
Three hundred years before the Titanic, the Vasa was the biggest sailing vessel of its day. The overloaded ship ruled the seas for all of a mile before she took on
water through her too-low gun ports and promptly capsized.

4. Northeastern US power grid, 1965
A single protective relay tripped in Ontario, overloading nearby circuits and causing a cascade of outages that left 30 million homes without power for up to 13
hours. A fragile, redundancy-free design ensured that it would happen eventually.

5. McDonnell Douglas DC-10, 1970s
Nearly a thousand people around the world lost their lives while the kinks were being ironed out of this 290-ton competitor to Boeing’s 747. Blown-out cargo doors,
shredded hydraulic lines, and engines dropped midflight were just a few of the behemoth’s early problems.

6. Firestone 500 tires, 1970s
These steel-belted radials allowed water to seep under the tread, which caused the belting to rust and the tread to separate, typically at high speeds. Dozens of
deaths later, Firestone blamed consumers, then recalled 10 million tires.

7. Purity Distilling Company tank, 1919
You gotta keep your molasses somewhere – how about a rickety tank 50 feet tall and 90 feet in diameter in the middle of Boston? The structure was painted brown
to hide the leaks. Eventually it burst (possibly exploding from fermentation), sending waves of molasses up to 15 feet high into the city and killing 21.

8. Skylab, 1973
America’s first space station was hopelessly damaged at launch because designers failed to account for the aerodynamics of the meteoroid shield and solar panels.
When crews weren’t busy making repairs, they complained of the extreme heat on board.

9. Citigroup Center, 1978
Last-minute changes to structural braces of this Manhattan tower left it vulnerable to collapse in high winds. With a hurricane bearing down on the city, builders
rushed to strengthen it by welding 2-inch steel plates over 200 weakly bolted joints.

10. R101 airship, 1930
Seven years before the Hindenburg disaster, the British thought 5.5 million cubic feet of hydrogen in a bubble of fabric would make for a fun way to get around. On
her maiden flight, the airship’s cover was blown open by wind, and from there it was oh-the-humanity city.


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