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Date: September 21, 2014 at 20:29:26
From: jeffersonzuma, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why do chimps kill each other?

URL: http://news.sciencemag.org/plants-animals/2014/09/why-do-chimps-kill-each-other


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To test between the two hypotheses, a large team of primatologists led by Michael Wilson of the University of Minnesota, Twin Cities, analyzed data from 18 chimpanzee communities, along with four bonobo communities, from well-studied sites across Africa. The sites included famous chimp and bonobo hangouts such as the Gombe and Mahale national parks in Tanzania, Kibale in Uganda, Fongoli in Senegal, and Lomako in the Democratic Republic of the Congo. The data covered a total of 426 researcher years spent watching chimps and 96 years of bonobo observation. All told, the scientists tallied 152 chimp killings, of which 58 were directly observed, 41 inferred from evidence such as mutilated bodies on the ground, and 53 suspected either because the animals had disappeared or had injuries consistent with fighting.

The researchers created a series of computer models to test whether the observed killings could be better explained by adaptive strategies or human impacts. The models incorporated variables such as whether the animals had been fed by humans, the size of their territory (smaller territories presumably corresponding to greater human encroachment), and other indicators of human disturbance, all of which were assumed to be related to human impacts; and variables such as the geographic location of the animals, the number of adult males, and the population density of the animals, which the team considered more likely to be related to adaptive strategies.

Online today in Nature, the team reports that the models that best explained the data were those that assumed the killings were related to adaptive strategies, which in statistical terms were nearly seven times as strongly supported as models that assumed human impacts were mostly responsible. For example, 63% of the fallen warriors were attacked by animals from outside their own in-group, supporting, the authors say, previous evidence that chimps in particular band together to fight other groups for territory, food, and mates. Moreover, males were responsible for 92% of all attacks, confirming earlier hypotheses that warfare is a way for males to spread their genes. In contrast, the team concludes, none of the factors related to human impacts correlated with the amount of warfare observed.

The study also confirmed earlier evidence that bonobos are, relatively speaking, more peaceful than their chimpanzee cousins. Although fewer bonobo groups were included in the study, the researchers observed only one suspected killing among that species, at Lomako—a site where animals have not been fed by humans and disturbance by human activity has been judged to be low.
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{interesting that bonobos are polyamorous.. you don't have to kill to spread your pool if your the male, and the females probably cooperate better too. interesting that the controlled culture and politics invokes the 'negative animal' [somewhere in back of 'child' and 'parent'] and amplifies it for it's control/exploitation purposes at the expense of the 'positive human' which is denatured and suprressed/oppressed by same manipulation of our animal/human dichotomy.. the 'game' is to program to become the 'higher universal mankind'.. how the 'male chimp' expresses the territorial thing, especially under control of organized religions etc, is done in business and politics, is it not? How is it emphasized?.. like the more territorial chimps, like our "monogamous" (really?) "culture", or like the bonobo where there's no need for the hyper alpha male and concomitant territorial female.. but then who needs 'the' alpha male, the.. 'church' or society controllers (media, culture, education, entertainment get it?)? THE ALPHA MALE, the controlling hierarchy doesn't want to give up it's game, now does it, children.. not sayin' give up your monogamy, simply that the territory and ownership games do happen to invoke our chimpanzee side of how to get along.. especially with the price of diamonds being a huge scam.. ya know? big money.. that's territory and grounds for that great male competition that is so good for women to get into too as part of the self-destruct program.. isis on the satellite program, eh?}


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Date: September 22, 2014 at 10:12:54
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why do chimps kill each other?


heh, I used to raise chickens... whoa, so interesting
to watch... I raised them from chicks...30 or so in all for egg laying..
so I watched to see who'd be the roosters in the bunch
I had Buff Orpingtons, Some whites, and Araucanas.(those are beautiful multi colored from Brazil and the hens lay colored eggs, from blue to green and some with spots)
The whites turned out to be the "rapists" running the hens ragged, I got rid of them. Araucanas were okay.

But Jimmy the Buff Orpington was the best- I kept him as the main rooster... he actually did a ceremony before he'd go for it, every single time,he'd drop his wing, then do a little
dance around the hen, she complied oh so sweetly. Looked just like one of the Native American dances...
probably where they go it from.

I had two minitures, hen and rooster, George and Gracie, I named them. Not much bigger than pigeons.
Little George used to hop on top of the larger hens
backs and stand there, and the hens would just look up
and ask George, what the hell you doin up there?

There was definite pecking order going on... too many roosters, and one of my beautiful roosters got killed
from that... should have given him away before all that
happened but did not know they'd do that to him.
:(

But Jimmy was not the one doing this... His coloring btw was reddish blond, He was okay with the other roosters being there. THen I found another rooster, a smaller Banty webbed foot one downtown in Naples Id. Running free and wild and getting food donations from local business.
I asked if he belonged to anyone - they said no
- So I got
a large fish net and captured him, put him in a box and brought him home... when they all first met,
there was a bit of protest, but mostly from George
and Gracie! They both crowed in his face- too funny.
Never knew a hen could crow, but she sure did..
They all got along fine...




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Date: September 22, 2014 at 05:22:54
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: they observed us ... monkey see ... monkey do (NT)


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