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4753
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Was Albert Einstein silly?
URL: http://www.flem-ath.com/flemath/was-albert-einstein-silly/
| "... When the Sky Fell ... explained the actual relationship between plate tectonics and earth crust displacements: 'Plate tectonics and earth crust displacement both share the assumption of a mobile crust. The ideas are not mutually exclusive but rather complementary. Plate tectonics explains long-term, slow changes like mountain building, volcanic activity, and local earthquakes. Earth crust displacement accepts that these processes are gradual but posits a much more dramatic and abrupt movement of the crust that can explain different problems such as mass extinctions, glaciation patterns, and the sudden rise of agriculture.'" |
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4757
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So when Einstein told Velikovsky he was wrong
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Hi HG, So when Einstein told Velikovsky he was wrong about the movements of Venus and the shift of the Earth on it's axis you catastrophists say he was wrong, yet now you try to hold Einstein up in relation to Hapgood's theories? Sorry HG, but the simple fact is the ice core evidence shows there was no shift be it in the entire body of the Earth or a shift in Earth's crust. Hapgood's idea that Antarctica was ice free just a few thousand years ago has been shown to be wrong by the past 50 years of research in Antarctica including numerous ice cores. Cheers Jim |
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4759
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Worlds in Collision open on Einstein's desk when he died
URL: http://www.sciencevalidatesbible.com/velikovsky-summary.html
| you have no idea about what is right and what is wrong ... all you have are unsubstantiated assertions that you repeat over and over as if anyone except you cared |
4764
From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Worlds in Collision open on Einstein's desk when he died
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HG Is you claim "Worlds in Collision open on Einstein's desk" based your linked article written by Bob Barefoot. Have you any substantiating evidence from a reputable source to back your claim? Is this the same scammer Robert R. Barefoot (born 1944), is a controversial proponent of alternative medicine and a self claimed expert of Calcium. He has been cited by both the United Kingdom's Independent Television Commission and the FTC in the United States for making misleading ads and making unsubstantiated claims, including medical claims. |
4765
From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Worlds in Collision open on Einstein's desk when he died
URL: Was Einstein Reading "Worlds in Collision" When He Died?
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...since the claim that Blavatsky’s Secret Doctrine “always” sat on Einstein’s desk was published at least as early as 1971, Warshofsky may also have simply mixed up his pseudoscience books and falsely reported that Velikovsky and not Blavatsky was the great scientist’s final reading. This is not entirely clear since the actual claim that Secret Doctrine was still there at Einstein’s death seems to date only from 1983, leaving open the possibility that Warshofsky’s claim came first or that the two mutually pollinated one another in building a modern myth. Despite these facts, both claims—that Worlds in Collision sat on Einstein’s desk and that Einstein praised the book at his final meeting with Velikovsky—appear at face value in Michael D. Gordin’s much- praised book about the Velikovsky controversy, The Pseudoscience Wars (2012), which makes me question what else the author took at face value. |
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From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Steven Shapin reviews 'The Pseudoscience Wars' by Michael Gordin
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Sums up HG's pseudoscience perfectly ...Gordin sides with those – like Einstein and a number of modern sociologists and philosophers – who doubt that universal and context- independent criteria can be found reliably to distinguish the scientific from the pseudoscientific. But here is a suggestion about how one might do something, however imperfectly, however vulnerable to counter-instances and however apparently paradoxical, to get a practical grip on the difference between the genuine article and the fake. Whenever the accusation of pseudoscience is made, or wherever it is anticipated, its targets commonly respond by making elaborate displays of how scientific they really are. Pushing the weird and the implausible, they bang on about scientific method, about intellectual openness and egalitarianism, about the vital importance of seriously inspecting all counter-instances and anomalies, about the value of continual scepticism, about the necessity of replicating absolutely every claim, about the lurking subjectivity of everybody else. Call this hyperscience, a claim to scientific status that conflates the PR of science with its rather more messy, complicated and less than ideal everyday realities and that takes the PR far more seriously than do its stuck-in-the-mud orthodox opponents. Beware of hyperscience. It can be a sign that something isn’t kosher. A rule of thumb for sound inference has always been that if it looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck. But there’s a corollary: if it struts around the barnyard loudly protesting that it’s a duck, that it possesses the very essence of duckness, that it’s more authentically a duck than all those other orange-billed, web-footed, swimming fowl, then you’ve got a right to be suspicious: this duck may be a quack. |
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4761
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Are you sure?
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Hi HG, > Worlds in Collision open on Einstein's desk when he died Are you sure about that? Just a few years ago Life magazine released never before seen images of Einstein's desk on the day he died and it doesn't appear to contain World's in Collision. (see above image) Einstein's secretary also objected to the claim that World's in Collision was on Einstein's desk the day he dies. We know Einstein read World's in Collision prior to publication and he and Velikovsky disagreed on Velikovsky's ideas which is detailed Einstein's July 8, 1946 letter. I'm not sure what difference it makes claiming that book was open on his desk... but that seems to be yet another thing there is no evidence of. Cheers Jim |
4762
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: can you identify every document in that photo?
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how do you know that it was not "Worlds in Collision" in manuscript form? you are so quick to try to disprove something that you let your biases get in the way of rational thought processes that is ... if you are even capable of rational thought processes |
4767
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: can you identify Worlds in Collision there?
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4768
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: can you identify Worlds in Collision there?
| can you identify this? |
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4754
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Pole Shifts and Earth Crust Displacement
URL: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sitchin/esp_sitchin_3g.htm
| "An earth crust displacement, as the words suggest, is a movement of the ENTIRE outer shell of the earth over its inner layers. If you remove the peel from an orange and then reattach it to the fruit you can visualize the possibility of the peel moving over the inner layers. The earth's crust, according to Charles Hapgood, can similarly change its position over the inner layers. When it does the globe experiences climatic change. The climatic zones (polar, temperate and tropical) remain the same because the sun still shines on the earth from the same angle in the sky. From the perspective of people on the earth at the time, it appears as the sky is falling. In reality it is the earth's crust shifting to another location. Some land moves towards the tropics. Others shift, with the same movement, towards the poles. Yet others may escape such great changes in latitude. The consequence of such a movement of the entire outer shell of the earth is catastrophic. Throughout the world massive earthquakes shake the land and enormous tidal waves crash into and over the continental shelf. As the old ice caps leave the polar zones they melt, raising the ocean level higher and higher. Everywhere, and by whatever means, people seek higher ground to avoid an ocean in upheaval." |
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