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Date: December 31, 2013 at 15:51:53
From: martin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: science isn't democratic |
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There is only one truth, and many seekers to the answers of each mystery. There will be many who seem like frauds until the truth is revealed by proof.
An hundred scientists voting for one theory does not make it correct as science is not a democracy. Truth needn't be popular.
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Date: January 01, 2014 at 16:42:44
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: you so funny ... me laughter and laughter so much (NT) |
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Date: December 31, 2013 at 17:49:15
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: science isn't democratic |
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To paraphrase Dr. Jones, jr....
"[Science] is the search for fact ... not truth. If it's truth you're interested in, Dr. Tyree's philosophy class is right down the hall"
But you certainly are right about proof. It's all conjecture until proof - facts - are found to support the idea, thence it becomes a working theory. But even then, new facts may be found that require the theory to change and adapt to fit the additional facts.
Contrary to popular belief, science is fluid, changing, open, adaptable, rather than being rigid, dogmatic, and closed as some conjecture it is. Maybe if the detractors weren't so closed minded and dogmatic themselves they'd "see the truth".
Brian
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Date: December 31, 2013 at 19:10:27
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: science isn't democratic |
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it's a huge problem with our education now, that folks do NOT understand the fluidity of science! That mass media pronounces scientific "facts" as a static, solid fact" in their flyby missives only serve to confuse the masses who often have no understanding of how the works of scientists evolve over time.
"Contrary to popular belief, science is fluid, changing, open, adaptable, rather than being rigid, dogmatic, and closed as some conjecture it is. Maybe if the detractors weren't so closed minded and dogmatic themselves they'd "see the truth"."
Indeed, having known several scientists in my life, their endeavors to find truth in their discoveries only to be met with new data thus their mindsets were never set in stone but open to new studies that added or subtracted to their own works.
However, in the study of climate change I must say that there are scientists whose minds are closed and fully incapable of the data already present though it's certainly a work in progress as is all science.
I love the "fluidity" of science, the new data and that which is questioned and substantiated or refuted as long as it's really based on the data and not some political agenda as are so global warming denialists who ....oh well better to not get into that subject now.
Thanks for your post Skywise, you are indeed a wise man and that's a gift to us all!
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Date: December 31, 2013 at 19:43:56
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: science isn't democratic |
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"...in the study of climate change I must say that there are scientists whose minds are closed and fully incapable..."
One must be careful not to confuse the fallibilities of the scientists (humans) with science (a methodology).
Certainly there are bad scientists. Certainly there are some "on the take" or that "have an agenda". I don't dispute that.
But that DOES NOT NEGATE the veracity of the scientific method.
It seems to me that some detractors of science are just as agenda driven and obsessed in making judgmental claims against others, enough to make me wonder who's paying them to post their dogmatic trolling crap.
"you are indeed a wise man"
Oh, pshaw! I'm no wiser than anyone else is capable of being, and there are many wiser than I.
Brian
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Date: December 31, 2013 at 22:33:49
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: science isn't democratic |
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I don't doubt the veracity scientific methodology so in essence, we are saying the same thing inspite of all the naysayers who may never understand how science works and how it evolves over time.
Well Brian, I'm a little squiffed now suffering as I am from the Happy New Year syndrome but have to say that whether you embrace your wise self or not, I certainly do appreciate any feedback given to all posts here or elsewhere.
I've been a fan of yours for years now (how time flies eh?) and though you may not consider yourself as wise, you certainly add clarity to this board as well as others and to that end I hope you continue to add your valuable thoughts! :)
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