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From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: beware ... "the ides of anecdotal evidence" are upon us
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it may be ... gasp! ... "cherry picked" yeah ... that's just what Velikovsky did he went looking for evidence to support his theory and ... lo and behold ... he found such evidence from sources scattered around the world ... written evidence ... and stories passed down the generations by oral tradition but wait ... "science" said his evidence was "no good" ... it was "anecdotal" and had not been taken down by a stenographer and didn't have a notary seal and ... by the holy tenants of scientific law ... that they made up just for the occasion ... his "findings" were deemed "inadmissible" in their "high court of quackademia" the "truth" ... their truth ... must be protected from these "interloper wise guys" who come up with these ideas that have not been "passed" by their rules committee good grief ... they'll go to almost any lengths to preserve their cherished dogma ... now won't they |
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From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: signs, wonders, and perplexity ... at the end of each millenium
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Reference to ages and catastrophes is found in Avesta (Zend-Avesta), the sacred scriptures of Mazdaism, the ancient religion of the Persians. ... "Bahman Yast," one of the books of Avesta, counts seven world ages or millennia. ... Zarathustra (Zoroaster), the prophet of Mazdaism, speaks of "... the signs, wonders, and perplexity which are manifested in the world at the end of each millennium." -- Immanuel Velikovsky |
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4431
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: folks ... i'm not the answer man ... i have my own agenda
| if you were really interested ... you would answer your own questions ... likewise the busy bodies who think they can preach to me ... i'm not buying crazy ... and i don't have the time nor the inclination to read your posts ... but go ahead on ... it's your time ... and your obsessive compulsion |
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From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bhagavata Purana tells of four ages and of pralayas or cataclysms
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The sacred Hindu book Bhagavata Purana tells of four ages and of pralayas or cataclysms in which, in various epochs, mankind was nearly destroyed; the fifth age is that of the present. The world ages are called Kalpas or Yugas. Each world age met its destruction in catastrophes of conflagration, flood, and hurricane. Ezour Vedam and Bhaga Vedam, sacred Hindu books,keeping to the scheme of four expired ages, differ only in the number of years ascribed to each. ... In the chapter, "World Cycles," in Visuddhi-Magga, it is said that "there are three destructions: the destruction by water, the destruction by fire, the destruction by wind," but that there are seven ages, each of which is separated from the previous one by a world catastrophe. -- Immanuel Velikovsky |
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4429
From: Dreamz, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: beware ... "the ides of anecdotal evidence" are upon us
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HG - Quick question if all these planets including the earth, venus and mars and asteroids and comets are meant to be throbbing balls of high voltage electricity/thunderbolts then why aren't spacecraft that come into close proximity with em instantly zapped and vaporised? Were there any signs of leaping thunderbolts prior to the impact of Shoemaker–Levy 9 when it was observed plunging into Jupiter? and do think these are signs of electrical discharge erosion pits on Ganymede or a chain of impact craters? |
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From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: kataklysmos, ekpyrosis, and the appearance of prodigies
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... men thought that different prodigies appeared by means of which the gods notified mortals at the end of each age. ... There is a period, called "the supreme year" by Aristotle, at the end of which the sun, moon, and all the planets return to their original position. This "supreme year" has a great winter, called by the Greeks "kataklysmos," which means deluge, and a great summer, called by the Greeks "ekpyrosis," or combustion of the world. The world, actually, seem to be inundated and burned alternately in each of these epochs. -- Censorinus |
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4426
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it's called comparative mythology
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Hi HG, > from sources scattered around the world ... written evidence ... and stories passed down the generations by oral tradition This is called comparative mythology. It's the comparison of myths from different cultures in an attempt to identify shared themes and characteristics. Velikovsky even had to redate many of the ancient myths to form his Revised Chronology. People who have spent their lives studying these ancient cultures disagree with Velikovsky's dating and interpretations. But the issue in science is that what Velikovsky says is impossible by many standards. The physics of the whole Venus/Mars flyby scenario and the pole shift is unworkable as his friend Einstein pointed out to him. There are also ice core and ocean sediment records that show the catastrophes Velikovsky writes about never happened. HG you can continue in your attempt to paint science as evil quacks but the reality is the topic comes down to Velikovsky's interpretation of myths versus evidence in virtually every branch of science from physics to geology to climatology. Cheers Jim |
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