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Date: October 13, 2013 at 21:00:04
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Scientists as Mystics |
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I do not feel obliged to believe that the same God who has endowed us with sense, reason, and intellect has intended us to forgo their use. (Galileo Galilei)
Max Planck
"...I regard consciousness as fundamental. I regard matter as derivative from consciousness. We cannot get behind consciousness. Everything that we talk about, everything that we regard as existing, postulates consciousness."
The Observer, London, January 25, 1931
Werner Heisenberg
"The common division of the world into subject and object, inner world and outer world, body and soul is no longer adequate."
Erwin Schroedinger
"Subject and object are only one. The barrier between them cannot be said to have broken down as a result of recent experiments in the physical sciences, for this barrier does not exist".
Schrodinger (1961) claims that the Vedic slogan “All in One and One in All” was an idea that led him to the creation of quantum mechanics.
"Consciousness is never experienced in the plural, only in the singular. How does the idea of plurality (emphatically opposed by the Upanishad writers) arise at all? ... the only possible alternative is simply to keep the immediate experience that consciousness is a singular of which the plural is unknown; that there *is* only one thing and that what seems to be a plurality is merely a series of different aspects of this one thing produced by deception (the Indian maya) - in much the same way Gaurisankar and Mt. Everest turn out to be the same peak seen from different valleys." (From: What is Life)
Sir James Jeans
"Mind no longer appears as an accidental intruder into the realm of matter; we are beginning to suspect that we ought rather to hail it as the creator and governor of the realm of matter."
J. Jeans, The Mysterious Universe (New York: Macmillan, 1932), 186.
Sir Arthur S. Eddington
"All through the physical world runs that unknown content, which must surely be the stuff of our consciousness. Here is a hint of aspects deep within the world of physics, and yet unattainable by the methods of physics. And, moreover, we have found that where science has progressed the farthest, the mind has but regained from nature that which the mind has put into nature."
Sir Arthur S. Eddington, Space, Time and Gravitation: An Outline of the General Relativity Theory (1920)
Bernard d'Espagnat
"the doctrine that the world is made up of objects whose existence is independent of human consciousness turns out to be in conflict with quantum mechanics and with facts established by experiment."
Bernard d'Espagnat, "The Quantum Theory and Reality," Scientific American, Vol. 241, No. 5 (November 1979), pp. 158-181.
Roger Penrose
"...the contemporary understanding of material is very different now from the way it used to be. If we consider what matter really is, we now understand it as much more of a mathematical thing...But I think that matter itself is now much more of a mental substance..."
Journal of Consciousness Studies 1:24
Freeman Dyson
"[Is mind] primary or an accidental consequence of something else? The prevailing view among biologists seems to be that the mind arose accidentally out of molecules of DNA or something. I find that very unlikely. It seems more reasonable to think that mind was a primary part of nature from the beginning and we are simply manifestations of it at the present stage of history. It's not so much that mind has a life of its own but that mind is inherent in the way the universe is built."
Interview with Freeman Dyson in U.S.News and World Report, April 18, 1988, 72.
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Date: October 14, 2013 at 11:18:53
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: now you are "TALKING" ...!... |
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as i've posted elsewhere ... "Quantum mechanics imagines the mind of the CREATOR." ... and the corollary ... outside the space-time continuum ... in reality ... all the clues necessary for understanding the MYSTERY are written down in HOLY SCRIPTURE ... which i won't quote here
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Date: October 14, 2013 at 10:07:52
From: susanna, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Scientists as Mystics |
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Thanks for this and the hologram thread, Ryan and Brian. Well worth the read.
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Date: October 13, 2013 at 21:14:17
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Scientists as Mystics |
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"We believe that the universe itself is conscious in a way that we can never truly understand. It is engaged in a search for meaning. So it breaks itself apart, investing its own consciousness in every form of life. We are the universe trying to understand itself." - Delenn
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Date: October 13, 2013 at 22:11:08
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Scientists as Mystics |
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The work of the ear ends with hearing, the work of the eye ends with seeing, the work of the mind ends with ideas, whereas the Spirit is an emptiness yielding to all things. (Chuang Tzu)
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Date: October 13, 2013 at 22:28:32
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Scientists as Mystics |
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"If you immediately know the candlelight is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago." - Oma Desala
Brian
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Date: October 13, 2013 at 22:00:42
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Scientists as Mystics |
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it is engaged in survival...
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