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Date: August 15, 2013 at 20:34:53
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: emps and nukes


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A little clarification on the EMP topic


This is education talking, I am not going to quote references, especially since finding this info might not be easy. If you have any questions try using Google. When an EMP weapon is specifically designed for the purpose of destroying electronics, it does not hit the same EMP frequency a nuclear weapon does. As I have stated many times on this web site, contrary to popular myth modern circuits are not easily destroyed by nuclear EMP. This is because they are designed entirely differently than circuits were designed in the 1970's when the EMP myth took hold, and even in the 70's nuclear EMP as presented was a load of baloney.

Modern EMP weapons do not rely on a nuclear detonation to generate an EMP pulse


Modern EMP weapons function by generating an enormous magnetic field, and then using explosives to destroy whatever is creating that magnetic field. Since magnetic fields actually take on a physical form that is tangible and real, destroying the source of the magnetic field while that magnetic field is fully developed forces the magnetic field to extend outward very rapidly because it exists in a physical form and suddenly has nothing to contain it. For example -

If you take a neodymium magnet and destroy it with a hammer it will create a small EMP because the magnetic field it had will suddenly have nowhere to exist. The magnetic field will therefore rapidly extend outward, and induce electrical currents into any conductors that are nearby. And a step farther - If a superconducting ring magnet which has had an enormous electric current induced into it (which will continuously flow in a circle around the magnet) is suddenly destroyed by an explosive, the total electrical energy potential that is flowing through the magnet will have no place to exist, and will rapidly expand outward in the form of magnetic waves and produce an enormous EMP. Since superconducting magnets are still difficult to do and impractical to build into a weapon, EMP weapons do not use superconducting magnets.


Modern EMP weapons use coils of wire wrapped around an explosive core. A large electric current is passed through the wire, and when the resulting magnetic field is at it's peak, the explosives destroy the wire coils. And the EMP signature from such a device is drastically different from what is produced by a nuclear weapon


Nuclear EMP is not created by destroying an existing magnetic field. Nuclear EMP is created when the atoms in the device and surrounding the device get compressed by the shock wave created by the massive and instantaneous detonation. Nuclear EMP characteristics are therefore greatly affected by where the nuke goes off, a nuclear weapon of the exact same design will produce an EMP of one type when detonated in air, and have entirely different EMP characteristics when detonated below ground or in water. So nuclear EMP is very unpredictable, even humidity will affect its characteristics and since it is created by a shock wave, it's frequency is relatively low, never in excess of 20 Mhz and usually between 1 and 10 mhz. Because an EMP weapon functions by destroying an existing magnetic field it can be predictably optimized to hit higher frequencies that are far more damaging to modern circuits. But higher frequencies have less environmental penetration, and because EMP weapons are specifically designed to produce EMP in the Ghz range their reach is very limited, though they can easily devastate modern electronics that are within reach of the pulse.


If you really want to get an accurate perspective to what EMP which has been tailored to destroy modern electronics is really like, and not the garbage representation in the movie "the day after", watch The Matrix. In that movie they had a truthful representation of what EMP really will do when they used it to destroy the sentinels. Their EMP weapons did not reach out half way around the globe and blow out everything the way we have been trained to think a nuke will do, in reality - the reality they accurately showed, they had to allow the sentinels to get very close and destroy them at close range. And that was not for hollywood theatrics.


When it comes to penetration, frequency matters


The EMP generated by a nuclear weapon has a low frequency which has an enormous reach. So you can pretty much count on a large nuclear weapon to exert a big effect on electrical infrastructure even from a distance because lower frequencies travel better in the atmosphere and through liquids and solids. Since electrical infrastructure is large in size it can accept the low frequency and be affected by it. Historically however, all it did in Nevada during the nuclear tests was occasionally trip breakers and cause other minor disturbances due to interfering with power distribution, and in one case it supposedly damaged a rotary multiplexer (switch) at a nearby phone company. However, some skepticism exists regarding the damage to the switch, because the old rotary multiplexers were very high maintenance items anyway.

The main point with regard to frequency and nuclear EMP is that a ground or low air burst nuclear weapon, if large enough in size, has the potential to at least temporarily knock out power and damage phone systems within a 100 mile radius because it's frequency is low and gets good penetration, and also will couple with the long wires found in power and phone systems. And if the nuclear weapon is detonated at the edge of space, it's EMP gets an enormous reach and could potentially knock out power across the entire North American continent. But due to it's low frequency it won't have a chance of destroying small electronic devices even with the extra kick it gets from being detonated at a high altitude.


Because of the coupling limitations of low frequency, EMP weapons are specifically designed to hit higher frequencies than nukes


EMP weapons hit higher frequencies, and higher frequencies have advantages when it comes to destroying electronics, and severe disadvantages when it comes to penetration in the environment. The biggest factor is water vapor. Since a high frequency EMP weapon produces frequencies similar to what a microwave oven does, those frequencies get absorbed by the environment and converted to heat easily. In no cases have Ghz range EMP weapons been strategically effective outside of a two mile radius, because the atmosphere contains water, which soaks up the higher frequencies. And it gets worse than that - EMP weapons that have been designed to destroy electronics are very limited during periods of high humidity such as rain or fog, where their reach can be as little as 100 yards. So high frequency EMP weapons would work good against military targets such as aircraft carriers or the Pentagon in most weather, but due to their limited reach the civilian populations would have little to worry about because they would not be targeted by that type of weapon.


How average people should prepare for EMP and the loss of the power grid, if it gets destroyed


Have non gasoline power back ups. Solar panels are now cheap and easy. You can get solar power built and ready to go for only $2 a watt now fairly easily, so 500 watts of solar panels can be had for under a thousand. Go to a truck stop to get your inverter, they are cheap at truck stops, Make sure you get at least a 2,000 watt unit if you have 500 watts of solar panels. If you have a real small setup - 100 watts, just get a 500 watt inverter, bigger ones will waste your feeble power source. Wal Mart will have good ones for cheap that are under a thousand watts.

Just let it all sit around, don't bother installing anything when the grid is up unless you really want to go off grid right now, just wait until the disaster and believe me, there won't be ANY work to getting it all going when you need it because there won't be anything else to do but get it all going if you ever do need it. At that point you won't get gas for your car, it won't be available, so you can just rob the battery and barter for more batteries from other people to get your solar rig going the rest of the way. Sure, the batteries won't be ideal for solar, but after the end of the world, who cares? The key issue will be to at least have meaningful solar panels sitting somewhere, as well as a couple decent inverters.


If you were not within the reach of any high frequency EMP devices, all your electronics will be fine provided the EMP disaster was a real one and not something that was faked by having the cell network tell your Intel CPU to self destruct or your car to stop running. You will love the CFL light bulbs when running solar. Granted, I don't like how they were shoved down everyone's throats, but they are superb for survival lighting. A proper 500 watt solar panel setup will be enough to run a microwave to pop popcorn or heat coffee, along with a lot of other mundane things like radios and laptop computers. Plasma televisions eat power like crazy, you can forget those. Incandescent lights are an extremely poor choice when running solar. A good inverter on a 500 watt system can even run a washing machine if the batteries are adequate and you conserve power before wash day. 500 watts of solar can simulate fairly normal living conditions if used thoughtfully.


And one final thing - if you are running solar after the big disaster, make sure you pull the power meter off the house or you will end up back feeding all your solar power onto the now defunct grid, where Bobbie and Stan will gleefully try to run their plasma TV.



About the recent nuke in Syria


A digital camera will definitely survive filming a nuclear blast. The "EMP destroys everything" line is nothing but a myth


""The movie "the day after" even shows 1970's cars grinding to a halt, and they had no computers or advanced circuits in them. This proves the entire plot was a lie because the cars of the 70's were identical to the cars of the 50's, and in the 1950's people would drive out to Nevada and watch the nuclear tests for entertainment. If EMP was so horrible, none would have been able to drive home afterward."

It is my opinion that the fireball from the recent explosion in Syria was far too big and persisted too long to be from any conventional source, no matter how it was set off. Since Israel is a proven nuclear rogue, I have no doubt they have nuked Syria multiple times already. And nukes are not the end of the world.


My guess is small nuke, and any stories about it not being a nuke because the EMP would have destroyed the camera are B.S., I have done all the calculations for nuclear EMP against electronic devices, and when it comes to things the size of the camera, FORGET IT, EMP will not do anything at all. The camera has too small of a cross section to couple even partially with frequencies below 500 mhz.


Nuclear EMP happens between 1 and 20 Mhz depending on the bomb, and to couple effectively with something as small as the circuits in a camera, the frequency of the EMP would have to be up in the 1 Ghz range. EMP is nothing but a radio frequency pulse and if your device does not make a suitable antenna, it won't pick up the EMP, it will just shrug it off. I know I am going to get backlash for saying this, but there is a lot of proof that this is true out there already. When North Korea tested it's nukes, it was completely in the digital age. Same is true with China, India, Pakistan and to some degree even France. None of those nukes destroyed anything digital or transistorized. Though it is true that an ionospheric detonation would wreak havoc with satellites and the power grid, ground bursts do virtually nothing at all to electronics and the proof of this is overwhelming. The nuclear EMP myth is nothing but a psy op.


The terror flick "The Day After" has as a main feature ALL the cars dying due to their electrical systems getting blown out and sitting dead on the highway. A laughable myth with so much proof against it it's a wonder that movie was able to make the EMP myth take hold. Cars will shrug off nuclear EMP entirely. When EMP was an issue it was only a small issue and we were using old antiquated stuff based on large circuits with a large cross section. Miniaturization made the devices too small to couple with such a low frequency and on top of that, ALL digital circuits nowadays have protection diodes across all pins of all the chips, so there is no way to over voltage them absent hooking them up to a large power supply with too high a voltage and letting them fry over time, or subjecting them to extremely intense GHZ frequencies similar to putting them in a microwave oven. Since EMP takes place in a few microseconds, there would not be enough time to fry the protection diodes even if a device did pick up the EMP. These diodes, which are there to protect the chips from static discharge, are manufactured into all static sensitive devices, the same devices that could be damaged by EMP. 20 years ago it might have been possible to blow out unprotected Cmos circuits but nowadays EVERYTHING ships with extremely hardened circuits to prevent static damage, and the protection diodes will stop a voltage spike from EMP the same way they stop static. This leaves unsaid the fact that small devices can't pick up nuclear EMP anyway.



The terror flick "the day after" came out of Hollywood, and is a load of B.S. The math does not support what happened in the movie, and neither does history. Remember, out of all the Nevada nuclear tests in America, not a single car ignition system was blown up, NOT A THING AT ALL except an old mechanical rotary multiplexer at a phone company with long lines the signal could couple with and that type of phone switch had to be rebuilt monthly as a matter of course anyway.


The day after even shows 1970's cars grinding to a halt, and they had no computers or advanced circuits in them. This proves the entire plot was a lie because the cars of the 70's were identical to the cars of the 50's, and in the 1950's people would drive out to Nevada and watch the nuclear tests for entertainment. If EMP was so horrible, none would have been able to drive home afterward. The ignition coils and distributors were IDENTICAL to what "the day after" portrayed. I have friends who drove out the the Nevada tests, and they said the tests were all announced and many many people would drive out into the desert to watch. No one's cars were wrecked absent Bubba drinking too much alcohol.

The nuclear EMP scare is being kept in place so that at the right time, on cue, all the computers which have Intel processors can have the CoreVpro technology tell the CPU to self destruct when given the command from the cell phone system, and all the cars which have an always on cell connection right from the control computer can be deactivated and rendered dead via the same cell system. There is such ignorance about EMP nowadays that all they have to do is say a nuke blew everything up, and it's bye bye computers, bye bye cars just with a command sent from the cell phone system. THAT would certainly stop a rebellion, would it not?


I am certain we are going to now be treated to a large number of armageddon style blasts because Israel has no conscience and there are tons of Iphones out there. Don't let anyone fool you and make you believe a nuclear blast can't be captured by a digital camera without wrecking it and when one survives to tell the story, remember that it is possible. Don't believe a nuclear blast cannot be witnessed by people without permanently blinding them, because people drove out to Nevada to watch the detonations for entertainment back in the 50's. If you don't understand or believe why nuclear EMP can't kill a laptop or a camera if you are far enough away to survive the blast yourself, learn a little math and focus your efforts on radio propagation and antenna systems. Don't allow the nuclear fear mongering "experts" to raise your expectations of what a nuke can do to otherworldly levels, yes, they are bad but when reality is the issue a little math can go a long way.


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Date: August 15, 2013 at 23:07:20
From: Skywise, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: emps and nukes


Well.... uhhh... errr... ummmm... uhhhh....

Brian


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