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Date: August 06, 2013 at 22:07:45
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: this scientist was apparently just fired |
URL: http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065128113000020 |
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http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0065128113000020
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Date: August 07, 2013 at 09:10:43
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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Hi trapper,
I saw this in several places and was curious but haven't been able to find much. I did find that Mark Armitage was fired prior to March 11, 2013 as he posted on his blog that his CSUN.EDU E-mail was no longer valid then. There is very little about his firing until a couple of days ago when someone seems to have cranked up their publicity machine claiming Armitage was just fired when it occurred 6 months ago.
This story doesn't pass my smell test... but I can't find any detail about it.
Cheers
Jim
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Date: August 07, 2013 at 13:30:14
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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finding soft tissue on triceratops remains and publishing a peer reviewed report on it doesnt pass the 65 million year smell test. that is the point.
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Date: August 07, 2013 at 16:43:23
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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Hi trapper,
> finding soft tissue on triceratops remains and publishing a peer reviewed report on it doesnt pass the > 65 million year smell test. that is the point.
Yes, I get that. And I'd like to see a scientific discussion on this. But suddenly in August everyone is saying he was apparently just fired when it occurred prior to March 11th means someone is running a large PR campaign on this topic. Rather than talking about why he was fired I'd like to see some discussion on the validity of his research.
It's also a concern that the guy who published this research on soft tissue is a longtime member of the Creation Research Society - hinting at his motivation. I'd be interested to see something beyond this simply visual inspection to examine the origin of the tissue.
Cheers
Jim
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Date: August 11, 2013 at 10:00:51
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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when a story surfaced and when it happened is relevant? kind of like whether the stick one is beat with is painted blue or red.
most of the crap we hear about is motivated by something other than the truth, for sure.
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Date: August 11, 2013 at 18:38:37
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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Hi trapper,
All the headlines I've seen said he was "just fired".. which isn't true. With that kind of spin at the start it makes it hard to take much else seriously.
Cheers
Jim
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Date: August 14, 2013 at 14:48:26
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
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way to use ad hominem against yourself!
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Date: August 06, 2013 at 22:11:39
From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this scientist was apparently just fired |
URL: http://creationicc.org/ICC2013-Author-Bios.pdf |
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Mark H. Armitage, M.S. Mark H. Armitage earned a BS in Education from Liberty University and an MS in Biology (parasitology), under Richard Lumsden (Ph.D. Rice and Dean of Tulane University’s graduate program) at the Institute for Creation Research. He later graduated Ed.S. in Science Education from Liberty University and is a doctoral candidate there. Mark grew up in a military family and lived in Venezuela and Puerto Rico for 15 years. He became a Christian when he was a college senior, studying plant pathology at the University of Florida, and his family withdrew support from him. His experience in the business sector includes Olympus Corporation of America and Carl Zeiss. In 1984 he founded a microscope sales and service company and has been in business for 29 years. He was awarded a US patent for an optical inspection device in 1993. Mark’s micrographs have appeared on the covers of eleven scientific journals, and he has many technical publications on microscopic phenomena in such journals as American Laboratory, Southern California Academy of Sciences Bulletin, Parasitology Research , Microscopy and Microanalysis, Microscopy Today and Acta Histochemica, among others. His career in education includes Master’s College and Azusa Pacific University. Mark maintained a working electron microscopy laboratory (SEM and TEM) at the Institute for Creation Research in San Diego. In 2003 he moved his laboratory to the Creation Research Society Van Andel Creation Research Center in AZ. Until recently, Mark served as the Manager for the Electron and Confocal Microscopy Suite in the Biology Department at California State University Northridge. Mark was suddenly terminated by the Biology Department when his discovery of soft tissues in Triceratops horn was published in Acta Histochemica . He is currently seeking relief in a legal action for wrongful termination and religious discrimination by the University. He is a lifetime member of the Creation Research Society where he has served on the Board of Directors since 2006. Mark is a member of the Microscopy Society of America, the Southern California Academy of Sciences and the American Society of Parasitologists.
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