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Date: April 27, 2024 at 19:00:47
From: The Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Not sure how correct this is about Tesla batteries |
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it was forwarded to me by someone so not sure where
exactly it came from either:
"A Tesla model Y battery takes up all of the space
under the passenger compartment of the car.
To manufacture it you need:
--12 tons of rock for Lithium (can also be extracted
from sea water)
-- 5 tons of cobalt minerals (Most cobalt is made as a
byproduct of processing copper and nickel ores. It is
the most difficult and expensive material to obtain for
a battery.)
-- 3 tons nickel ore
-- 12 tons of copper ore
You must move 250 tons of soil to obtain:
-- 26.5 pounds of Lithium
-- 30 pounds of nickel
-- 48.5 pounds of manganese
-- 15 pounds of cobalt
To manufacture the battery also requires:
-- 441 pounds of aluminum, steel and/or plastic
-- 112 pounds of graphite
The Caterpillar 994A is used to move the earth to
obtain the minerals needed for this battery. The
Caterpillar consumes 264 gallons of diesel in 12 hours.
The bulk of necessary minerals for manufacturing the
batteries come from China or Africa. Much of the labor
in Africa is done by children. When you buy an electric
car, China profits most.
The 2021 Tesla Model Y OEM battery (the cheapest Tesla
battery) is currently for sale on the Internet for
$4,999 not including shipping or installation. The
battery weighs 1,000 pounds (you can imagine the
shipping cost). The cost of Tesla batteries are:
Model 3 -- $14,000+ (Car MSRP $38,990)
Model Y -- $5,000–$5,500 (Car MSRP $47,740)
Model S -- $13,000–$20,000 (Car MSRP $74,990)
Model X -- $13,000+ (Car MSRP $79,990)
It takes 7 years for an electric car to reach net-zero
CO2. The life expectancy of the battery is 10 years
(average). Only in the last 3 years do you start to
reduce your carbon footprint, but then the batteries
must be replaced and you lose all gains made.
And Finally, the amount of energy required to process
the raw materials and the amount of energy used to haul
these batteries to the U.S. sometimes back and forth a
couple of times.
But by all means, get an electric car. Just don't sell
me on how awesome you are for the environment. Or for
human rights."
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Date: May 01, 2024 at 09:16:53
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Not sure how correct this is about Tesla batteries |
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yes, isn't "green" great!
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19099 |
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Date: April 30, 2024 at 19:26:28
From: eaamon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Not sure how correct this is about Tesla batteries |
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the weight of a Tesla model Y battery is not 1000 pounds.
or if it is, a large part of it is the subframe of the car on the latest Model Y
with seats attached.
the old Model S 100Kw battery was about 1000 pounds but the newer light weight
batteries lowered the weight of the car by 500 pounds over all.
same on the Model Y.
so I for one questions those numbers given.
older Model S battery is $20,000 to $22,000. anything less is a refurbished battery.
the battery should last the life of the car.
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Date: April 28, 2024 at 00:10:06
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Not sure how correct this is about Tesla batteries |
URL: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/dec/13/instagram-posts/instagram-post-misleads-about-lithium-mining-and-t/ |
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I was curious I found this regarding the email you received:
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2022/dec/13/instagram-posts/instagram-post-misleads-about-lithium-mining-and-t/
(fwiw I am not a Tesla fan)
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Date: April 28, 2024 at 07:21:21
From: the Hierophant, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Thanks Eve |
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I am no fan either of electric vehicles- although here in
the Eastside suburbs of Seattle, sadly, just about every
6th car on the road is a Tesla.
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