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Date: January 27, 2024 at 05:27:51
From: chatillon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life

URL: link



STORY AT-A-GLANCE
Carbon dioxide (CO2) is commonly mischaracterized as a
harmful waste product of respiration and is falsely
blamed for disrupting the planetary climate

CO2 is an essential gas necessary for life. Moreover,
its impact on Earth’s temperatures is negligible, and
will remain negligible even if the current
concentration in the atmosphere were to double. A 100%
increase of CO2, from 400 ppm to 800 ppm, would
decrease radiation into space by just 1.1%, resulting
in a 0.7 degree C increase of the average earth
temperature

A 0.7 degree C difference means there’s no climate
emergency, and no matter what we do to reduce CO2
emissions, it’s not going to impact global
temperatures. To fabricate an emergency where there is
none, it is assumed that massive positive feedbacks are
involved. However, most natural feedbacks are negative,
not positive, so isn’t it likely the 0.7 degree C
increase is an overestimation to begin with

There’s no single temperature of the Earth. It varies
by location and altitude. For every kilometer of
altitude, you have an average cooling of 6.6 degrees C
Higher CO2 levels will green the planet, making it more
hospitable to plant life. The more CO2 there is, the
better plants and trees grow. CO2 also reduces the
water needs of plants, reducing the risks associated
with droughts

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXJ7UZjFDHU

The video above, “CO2, The Gas of Life,” features a
lecture given at the Summit Old Guard Meeting in New
Jersey, October 3, 2023, by William Happer, Ph.D.,
Professor Emeritus of physics at Princeton University
and former scientific adviser to the Bush and Trump
administrations.

The topic: carbon dioxide (CO2), commonly
mischaracterized as a harmful waste product of
respiration and a pollutant that is disrupting the
planetary climate. As explained by Happer in this
lecture, CO2 is actually an essential gas necessary for
life. Moreover, its impact on Earth’s temperatures is
negligible, and will remain negligible even if the
current concentration in the atmosphere were to double.

CO2 Is Not a Pollutant

(SNIP)

More CO2 Will Green the Planet
As explained by Happer, more CO2 will green the planet,
making it more hospitable to plant life. The more CO2
there is, the better plants and trees grow, so if we
want lush forests and bountiful harvests, cutting CO2
is the last thing we’d want to do.

“All plants grow better with more CO2 [in the air],” he
says. “Plants are really starved [of] CO2 today. We
know plants need many essential nutrients. They need
nitrogen, phosphorus, potassium; most important of all
they need water. But they also need CO2, and like many
of the other nutrients, CO2 today is in short supply.”

CO2 benefits plants by reducing their water needs,
hence less risk from drought. Higher CO2 levels also
reduce harmful photorespiration. According to Happer,
C3-type plants lose about 25% of their photosynthesis
potential due to increased photorespiration. For more
in-depth information about the role of CO2 in plant
growth and photosynthesis, please view the video. This
discussion begins around the 40-minute mark.

Lies, Ignorance, Stupidity or Something Else?
In closing, Happer makes an effort to explain what’s
driving the climate hysteria:

“In spite of incontrovertible arguments that there is
no climate emergency — CO2 is good for the Earth — the
campaign to banish CO2, ‘net zero,’ has been very
successful. So, how can that be? I’m really out of my
depth here because now I'm talking about human nature.
I'm really good with instruments and with solving
differential equations but I'm not very good at
understanding human beings.

But here are some of the drivers: noble lies, political
lies, ignorance, stupidity, greed. Noble lies goes back
to Plato who discusses it in ‘The Republic.’ ‘In
politics, a noble lie is a myth or untruth, often, but
not invariably of a religious nature, knowingly
propagated by an elite to maintain social harmony or to
advance an agenda.’

And here there's a clear agenda. If you could somehow
unite mankind to fight some external threat, for
example CO2 pollution, then we won't fight each other.
There won't be wars. So, I think many sincere people
have latched on to the CO2 narrative partly for that
reason. You can actually read about it in the early
writings of the Club of Rome.

Then there are political lies. This is one my favorite
H.L. Menken quotes: ‘The whole aim of practical
politics is to keep the populace alarmed (and hence
clamorous to be led to safety) by menacing it with an
endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary.’”

Ignorance, of course, is widespread, and largely based
on incomplete knowledge or a flawed understanding of
the facts. And what of stupidity? Dietrich Bonhoeffer,
one of the few German clergymen who opposed Hitler and
eventually paid for his public dissent with his life,
once wrote about human stupidity:

“Against stupidity we have no defense. Neither protest
nor force can touch it. Reasoning is of no use. Facts
that contradict personal prejudices can simply be
disbelieved — indeed, the fool can counter by
criticizing them, and if they are undeniable, they can
just be pushed aside as trivial exceptions.

So the fool, as distinct from the scoundrel, is
completely self-satisfied. In fact, they can easily
become dangerous, as it does not take much to make them
aggressive. For that reason, greater caution is called
for than with a malicious one.”

Happer himself has experienced the danger of opposing
stupidity. “I regularly get phone calls threatening me,
my wife and children with death,” he says. “So, what
kind of movement is this?” Lastly, greed. A.S. Pushkin
once said, “If there should happen to be a trough,
there will be pigs.” And climate science is currently
where the big bucks are — provided your work furthers
the global warming narrative and the need for net zero
emissions.

Whatever the drivers are, responsible people everywhere
need to push back against the false climate change
narrative and the net zero agenda, as it will
accomplish nothing in terms of normalizing
temperatures, but will rapidly erode quality of life
and the sustainability of food production, and shift
wealth into the hands of the few.


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18995


Date: January 29, 2024 at 12:37:44
From: georg, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life


it is the methane spewing out of the "permafrost" that
is the big worry ... methane is many times greater green
house gas than any other ... the train has left the
station ... we need more plants to produce enough oxygen
to breath ... dig?


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18987


Date: January 27, 2024 at 23:34:53
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life

URL: https://youtu.be/bJfrKNR3K2k?si=Oe_G6KALKc1EQyBy


Apr 11, 2023

'What Percent Of Our Atmosphere Is CO2?': Doug LaMalfa
Stumps Entire Panel With Climate Questions





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18988


Date: January 27, 2024 at 23:42:46
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life

URL: https://co2coalition.org/about/


About CO2 Coalition
The CO2 Coalition was established in 2015 as a 501(c)
(3) for the purpose of educating thought leaders,
policy makers, and the public about the important
contribution made by carbon dioxide to our lives and
the economy. The Coalition seeks to engage in an
informed and dispassionate discussion of climate
change, humans’ role in the climate system, the
limitations of climate models, and the consequences of
mandated reductions in CO2 emissions.
About Us
In carrying out our mission, we seek to strengthen the
understanding of the role of science and the scientific
process in addressing complex public policy issues like
climate change. Science produces empirical, measurable,
objective facts and provides a means for testing
hypotheses that can be replicated and potentially
disproven. Approaches to policy that do not adhere to
the scientific process risk grave damage to the economy
and to science.


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18989


Date: January 27, 2024 at 23:45:31
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life

URL: https://co2coalition.org/facts/


Climate Facts
Explore our extensive library of facts and detailed data
to empower yourself with knowledge, educate friends and
family, and join us in our love for CO2.
Explore the Facts
Take The Climate Quiz


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18990


Date: January 28, 2024 at 09:09:47
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life

URL: https://youtu.be/vstxSStcJuk?feature=shared


Really like that link, very
descriptive! Just watched this video
in the link provided, pretty common
sense peer reviewed science.


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18991


Date: January 28, 2024 at 17:15:10
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life


👍🪔Thanks Chuckles


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Date: January 29, 2024 at 20:57:49
From: Chuckles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Carbon Dioxide — The Gas of Life


You're welcome!


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18986


Date: January 27, 2024 at 08:25:24
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Mercola: CT/low cred/pseudoscience/quackery

URL: https://mediabiasfactcheck.com/mercola/


Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may
publish unverifiable information that is not always
supported by evidence. These sources may be
untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information;
therefore, fact-checking and further investigation is
recommended on a per article basis when obtaining
information from these sources. See all Conspiracy-
Pseudoscience sources.

Overall, we rate Mercola.com a Quackery-level
pseudoscience website that sometimes advocates for
dangerous, inaction or action, to serious health
issues.
Detailed Report
Bias Rating: PSEUDOSCIENCE
Factual Reporting: LOW
Country: USA
Press Freedom Rank: MOSTLY FREE
Media Type: Website
Traffic/Popularity: High Traffic
MBFC Credibility Rating: LOW CREDIBILITY


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18997


Date: January 29, 2024 at 19:45:06
From: Curly Bear, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Those Idiots...!


Dr. Mercola always BACKS-UP any claim(s) he makes with scientific research, and he cites his Sources and References at the end of each article. Anyone can read them, and come to their own conclusion -- instead of relying "someone else" to do their thinking and evaluation for them.

Any 'verification source' (in this case MediaBiasFactCheck.com) who concludes that a person or scientific research is "Quackery-level pseudoscience" had damn well better provide PROOF of their very biased conclusion. Just yelling out across the Internet (and expecting people accept such a bogus claim as Absolute Proof) does not constitute any kind of verifiable "proof". Obviously, the website's claim of "Quackery-level pseudoscience" is an outright, boldface lie. Hence, the folks who run MediaBiasFactCheck.com demonstrate that they have zero integrity.

Redhart, shame on you for sharing that outright lie! For heaven's sake, do your OWN research. If you still disagree with the article/claim in question, then state WHY you disagree with it. This at the very least opens up the lines of communication and discussion. But don't just blithely post such a bombastic lie. Come on, Redhart, you're SO much better than that. I enjoy reading your posts and I've never once doubted your integrity or your intelligence, nor do I now; I just figured you had an "off" day.


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19002


Date: February 01, 2024 at 13:05:39
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Those Idiots...!


Do you read the sources?

I have.

Sometimes, he summarizes well.

Most often, the claims the sources make are not nearly
as specific, or different claims altogether, that
Mercola twists in his own direction.

Sometimes, what he states is the direct opposite of the
conclusions Mercola draws.

I don't dismiss Mercola entirely, but I absolutely do
check out the sources he provides to make sure they are
actually vetted sources AND that they're making the
same claims he is.

Occasionally things match up.
Most of the time they don't.

That's the psychology of it. Posting sources doesn't
mean the sources have actually been used, or used as
intended, but it makes the reader think so. It makes a
fool of any reader that doesn't do the follow up
research (which starts with checking the sources
Mercola himself provides, that he knows the vast
majority of people are going to take at face value
rather than actually looking them up and reading them).

I can make all the false claims in the world and paste
a list of sources at the end to make it look legit,
sources that might say the exact opposite. But if
people don't read them, just the presence of words on a
page that look like pretty citations is enough to
"legitimize" what I say in most people's eyes.

That's one of the most basic scams in the book.


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19001


Date: January 30, 2024 at 08:47:50
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Those Idiots...!


lol that's been the Q/CT cry, "do your own
research!"...and when we do, they claim foul.

fascinating.

You have a right to your opinion, old friend.
Have a good day.


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