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18598
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
URL: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in Just 5 Months, Compared to 10 Gigs in the US
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what does the US prefer to spend money on? $52,000 trash cans. link: " Carrie Xiao at PV Tech reports that in the first five months of 2023, China has installed 62.1 gigawatts of solar capacity at a cost of $13.6 billion. Year on year, it was a 140% expansion. Just to give you an idea of the magnitude of this advance, a typical nuclear power plant has a nameplate capacity of 1 gigawatt. Consider that the US installed 6.1 gigawatts of new solar in the first quarter, or 2 gigs a month. Probably that equals 10 gigawatts of new solar over five months. The US hopes to put in 29 gigawatts of new solar in all of 2023. Another way of looking at this statistic: As of the end of 2022, Germany had in total installed 66.5 gigawatts of solar capacity in its entire history. Spain, a fairly major player in the solar space in Europe, has an impressive 27 gigawatts of solar installations in the pipeline. But implementation will take time. To repeat, China just put in more than twice that in only five months. CGTN: “World’s largest hydro-solar power station enters operation in China” China will spend $7 trillion by 2040 on its energy transformation, and some of that will be spent on battery storage. Batteries have fallen in price to the point where it is worthwhile using them to store wind and solar energy so as to smooth out the intermittency (solar panels don’t work at night and the wind does not always blow). Edward White and Gloria Li at FT report that the number of companies signing on as storers of energy has doubled in the past three years to 109,000, as entrepreneurs buy battery storage for lease to others, including the government. Goldman Sachs, they say, predicts that China will need over 500 gigawatts of battery storage by 2030. In 2022, China had about 21 gigwatts of battery storage spread over 259 companies, so it needs orders of magnitude more. Meanwhile, PV Magazine International reports that the price of an average Chinese-made solar panel plunged abruptly this spring to 17 cents per watt. That is nearly a 12% price drop. In January it was more like 23 cents a watt. Renewable energy keeps getting cheaper and cheaper, unlike fossil fuels, which are more expensive now than they were a couple or years ago before Putin invaded Ukraine. China had 430 gigawatts of solar capacity by the end of March. You think of China as a top-down sort of place and so you’d expect most of the solar to be utility-scale. But it turns out that there is a surge of Chinese families putting up rooftop solar panels. " |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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I'm wondering who is going to clean up our once beautiful deserts, after the mess they made with all the solar panels. And the same on our foothills with the god forsaken windmill farms. where are the stupid environmentalists when you need them? Huh? |
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From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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The wind mills in CA shouldn’t be environmentally at the top of America’s List each mill takes something like 59- gals of oil toget them to work.. Not only that, when the blades wear out they simply take off old, put on new. The old ones are placed in a hole cover them up. WhatThese stupid environmentalists don’t tell you; the blades do NOT disintegrate! |
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18604
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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We have one of the large windmill farms here...on the east side of town. Two of my sons work there right now. Our air and water is much cleaner than in the oil fields down in Bakersfield. One of my sons told of how one of the wild antelopes follow their crew around when they are doing maintenance. They've named him "Tony" lol. The wildlife seems to be doing just fine around the wind turbines. I asked the other son about the bird issue. He said that they are now designing the turbines larger and better. They turn much slower, but make even more energy. He told me that they have to report any bird kills--they monitor that. He said that there have been only two in a whole year (and they aren't totally sure they were due to the wind turbines). Meanwhile, the transmission line that was finally put in a few years ago to Los Angeles is backing up and reducing the need for other types of generators (like oil/gas electric plants) and makes it less likely that there will be blackouts. We seem to thriving here...in a new source of good jobs for our community (there is a windfarm technical school that is training locals for these jobs) and our wildlife is also still thriving. I've seen the oil fields in the west side of the county--largest oil fields in california. They have issues with oil and gas leaking into water supplies. Fracking also can increase that. I haven't heard of any claims of wind leaking into the water supply. The wildlife doesn't have to worry about the grass they graze on beneath the wind towers. Son says the biggest issue they have is the oil companies who continue to attack the wind turbine companies ..lobbying to get the state to shut them down, promoting disinfo about bird kills, trying to get the tech school scholarship money removed, stop the installation of public electric fueling ports, etc. I've been picking his brain on the topic since he actually works in the industry. On one of our trips up I-5 to the bay area, we noticed that at one truckstop area along the way, there are now 40 Tesla electric plug in stations newly built. They are built under a roof that has as many solar panels that recharge the electric car plug in stations. Cars that run on sunshine. Imagine that. Are there still issues to be worked on? Sure..as with any new industry there will be more innovation needed, and it will...storage of energy from solar/wind is possible, but needs to further improve. Batteries that utilize non-rare substances to do that. They're working on it. All in all, if you asked me if I wanted to day hike through a west county oil field, or an east county wind farm field...I'll take the wind field any time. "Tony" agrees. |
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18602
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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A beautiful sight, indeed. I guess breathing cleaner air isn't a high priority for you. |
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From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
URL: https://www.feinstein.senate.gov/public/_named_files/106900_desert_booklet.pdf
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Lets try to ask this person about her vision. It makes me sick... Guess they don't care in Sacramento, or San Francisco. I sure as hell do.... |
18603
From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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What a gorgeous blue sky. Beats this. |
18606
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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In the background, you will see clean steam coming out of Collins Pines logging mill, in Chester. They are making electricity from biomass, to power the mill. |
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From: akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
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Great. Needlessly cutting down more trees. Terrific. What good are they stuck in the ground, right? Do you realize you live in a wider community, a global community with over 8 billion people and other living things? |
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18605
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China adds 62 Gigawatts of Solar Capacity in 5 Months, US ads 10
| Indeed. |
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