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Date: August 05, 2021 at 11:40:49
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?

URL: Fire Map...


Things have got to be pretty toasty in Jeff's neighborhood. I haven't any
idea of what part of the lake Jeff lives on but man if he's on the west side?
Sheesh, even Chester seems to be barely hanging on...


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Date: August 05, 2021 at 12:13:17
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?

URL: http://earthboppin.net/talkshop/personal/


he and Val have evacuated. He posted info on the personal board just this morning. That fire grew 40,000 acres overnight, it's a hot monster!


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Date: August 05, 2021 at 13:25:32
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?


Thanks sheila.. I never look at all those boards..

Sorry to hear about the fire.. but at the same time one hopes it will help
temper those that have spoken so disparagingly about our concerns with
climate issues... maybe, hopefully?


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Date: August 05, 2021 at 13:42:01
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?


it's a difficult way to learn how climate change is now. For now I must leave anything even remotely connected in a political way since so many lives, homes are at stake.
The other elephant in the room is that the govt. hasn't properly funded the USFS, NPS, other agencies involved in managing our forests in such a way that they could actually thin vulnerable forests of beetle killed trees, brush, etc., have controlled burns just like the indigenous tribes did for thousands of years. These preventive measures need to be our future or forests will no longer be viable in this new climate.


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Date: August 05, 2021 at 14:20:44
From: ao, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?


I hope the current administration will rectify the prior's lack of concern for
our forests, our environment, other than as a source of raw materials, a
dump. The problem is atmospherically we are nowhere near what 'used to be'

Until the fire that devoured Paradise I had never heard of humidity levels
falling into single digits in the Sierra. In the reporting of that fire's chronology
there was mention of the humidity falling to 5% at the time of ignition.

That's so dry. I've often, since, wondered, is the air itself flammable?
Probably not, technically, since oxygen is an accelerant, not fuel itself. But
that's as close to flammable as it gets, and seems that it could transfer fire
great distances, across town, in no time at all. Like blink and aunty's house,
miles away, is on fire.


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Date: August 26, 2021 at 17:17:27
From: Kat, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?


Sorry to say but these forests that are burning is due to lack of
management of them. Logging is almost a thing of the past. So now
they burn! One right after another.


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Date: August 05, 2021 at 15:38:13
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Howz Lake Almanor Jeff doing?

URL: https://www.c2es.org/content/drought-and-climate-change/


as a longtime organic gardener, I remember when I started to notice how fast the soil dried up, even after a good watering. That was probably 10+- years ago. Now it's accelerated to the point where I have to water all the time. I found a good, simple explanation of how this works with climate change:

There are a number of ways climate change may contribute to drought. Warmer temperatures can enhance evaporation from soil, making periods with low precipitation drier they would be in cooler conditions. Droughts can persist through a “positive feedback,” where very dry soils and diminished plant cover can further suppress rainfall in an already dry area. A changing climate can also alter atmospheric rivers (narrow streams of moisture transported in the atmosphere), which can especially disrupt precipitation patterns in the Western United States. A combination of shifting atmospheric rivers and warmer temperatures can also affect Western snowpack and melt, potentially decimating the water supply.

Estimates of future changes in seasonal or annual precipitation in a particular location are less certain than estimates of future warming. However, at the global scale, scientists are confident that relatively wet places, such as the tropics, and higher latitudes will get wetter, while relatively dry places in the subtropics (where most of the world’s deserts are located) will become drier.


What's so weird about all of this is that I've noticed that during heatwaves here in Oregon, our humidity can get really low while the dewpoint will be 60% or more.

There's so much more to study about climate change but in essence, as the globe warms, extremes will get far more extreme in every imaginable kind of weather. I don't think there's that much that can be done to stop the runaway warming at this point. We've reached the point of no return in my humble opinion. Doesn't mean we should stop trying though, if for our progeny and all other species too.



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