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Date: March 11, 2020 at 12:59:33
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Hi all,
some news for you:
https://electroverse.net/29-bullet-points-proving-the-sun-causes-
global-warming-not-co2/
https://electroverse.net/another-climate-scientist-with-impeccable-
credentials-breaks-ranks/
sequoia
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Date: March 16, 2020 at 04:37:37
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
URL: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/338914556_What_controlled_Earth_climate_for_the_last_2000_years_CO2_or_the_Sun_YOU_judge_Simple |
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I followed one of those links to this abstract. I wish people would LOOK AT
THE GRAPH. It’s sourced from:
Astronomy)&)Astrophysics,) Nature)Geoscience, Geophysical)Research
abstract
What controlled Earth climate for the last 2,000 years: CO2 or the Sun? YOU
judge. Simple.
Technical Report (PDF Available) · January 2020 with 941 Reads
Report number: GEOCLASTICA LTD TECHNICAL NOTE 2020-2
Abstract
GEOCLASTICA LTD TECHNICAL NOTE 2020-2. One single slide, designed
for specialists AND the general public. Change your life in 5 minutes by
comparing these 3 simple published graphs, covering the last 2,000 years.
Keep in mind that the IPCC (Intergovernmental Panel on Climate Change) is
focussed on only the last 150 years, "since records began", meaning reliable
THERMOMETER records. However, our Earth is 30 million times older than
this (4.5 billion years old). Amazingly, the IPCC does not consult any
geologists (see my Technical Notes 2018-2, 2019-10 & 2019-11). Also bear
in mind that the IPCC deems both the Sun and our ocean (specifically its
vast thermal inertia, i.e. slowness to react to changes in heat input from the
sun) unimportant in climate change (yes, really). Yet the Sun's magnetic
output, controlling cloudiness (Svensmark theory) and hence the amount of
solar warming of the ocean, more than doubled in the 20th century
(Lockwood et al. 1999). The corresponding warming effect is delayed about
100 years by ocean thermal inertia (see Graphs 1 and 2 here). In other
words, we have several more decades of 'ocean-delayed' solar-driven global
warming to come, until eventual cooling begins, due to the sun's downturn
after its 1991 peak of magnetic output. NB THE 300AD SOLAR 'GRAND
MAXIMUM' (GM; GRAPH 1), UNSURPASSED UNTIL THE MODERN GM
(20TH CENTURY), GAVE RISE TO EXCEPTIONAL WARMTH ABOUT 100
YEARS LATER (~400AD; GRAPH 2), ACCOMPANIED BY A RAPID SEA-LEVEL
RISE OF ~3 METRES WITHIN 100 YEARS, VARIABLY KNOWN AROUND THE
WORLD AS THE 'ROTTNEST', 'ROMANO-BRITISH', 'DUNKIRK II', 'ST FIRMIN',
'GILBERT V' AND 'WULFERT TRANSGRESSION' (e.g. see my Technical Note
2020-1 here on ResearchGate). THUS, DUE TO THE EVEN STRONGER(?)
MODERN GM, SEA LEVEL WILL ALMOST CERTAINLY AGAIN RISE ~3
METRES, BEFORE 2100. The coming sun-driven sea-level rise is entirely
natural (cf. Fairbridge 1961), nothing to do with CO2, whose concurrent
increase during the solar build-up to the Modern GM was purely accidental
(Graphs 1 and 3).
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 17:32:14
From: Tex, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Bad data in, bad data out. |
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It has always been the case, hasn't it? It's a shame that some want to fuck
mankind over with this stupid, politically motivated, response to the real
data. Man is fucking up. Face it, or die.
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 11:43:26
From: Mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Face it or die. |
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The emergency physician doesn't care who fired
the bullet. He takes care of the patient.
So what if the sun has some influence. ALL data
shows humans are poisoning the planet, denuding
forests, killing the insects we depend upon,
pouring sewage into waters, creating continents
of floating plastic garbage and wiping out
species as we go.
Only a stupid rat that glorifies in fouling its
own nest would do anything to slow down or
dismiss any effort to clean up this mess.
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 09:46:32
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: bad words go right into the nearest black hole |
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Hi Tex,
as you know the universe has a recipe for everything.
For badly worded replies without any informative content but with
excessive f...,,g that recipe is also known as a black hole. One of the
important properties of black holes is that they gobble up everything
without looking at what is streaming into them. Luckily for you, the
nearest black hole, the one right behind your backyard has already
taken care of your empty comment. Yummy! Makes a good fever.
sequoia
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Date: March 14, 2020 at 15:41:47
From: Tex, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Black holes? Cool! |
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Great Response sequoia. Your stupidity is glaring.
Either we stop polluting, stop with the CO2 already, or we are fucked.
That's right, I said fucked. Your black hole is no more than platitudes. Are your panties bunching up?
It's as simple as that. Continue using CO2 and we are fucked.
In other words... stop with the CO2 or die.
It's as simple as that.
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 15:04:19
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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ah, but do you know what is driving the sun?
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 15:34:54
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Hi ryan,
that is a legitimate question.
Here is at least part of the answer:
https://www.electricuniverse.info/electric-sun-theory/
In another matter I would request your assistance:
once again, like many times before, Redhart simply denounces
pieces of information I posted, such as the one you responded to
right here, which I consider worthwhile reading. While she has the
right do disagree and criticize she does not have any higher
authority giving her denouncing and defaming rights.
She has repeated this same type of behavior dozens of times when
I posted articles which deserve to be read. If she doesn't like them
so be it. But her posting of defamatory, derogatory remarks is not
good practice. It is not scientific in any way and it is not good for
communication on this board.
Therefore I request you tell her to stop her defamatory, derogatory
remarks concerning websites she does not like. Not even in one
case did she respond to the contents of the article. It's always "this
is a bad site, and that is a bad site". Communication? ZERO.
What a joke that person has become. As if she has been
brainwashed by totalitarians.
sequoia
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 16:37:21
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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sorry, but i think it is good that redhart points out sites that frequently if not always publish erroneous or highly biased information...if an article comes from a site that is not such then post the original link to the content...then, if it is a basically reliable source you won't get a bad site response, and you will be giving the original site its props for posting it...
as far as the sun goes, imo, its activity is in direct correlation to human activity...
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 15:48:59
From: JTRIV , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Hi Mr Bopp,
But Redhart doesn’t point out all the bad sites. For examples some
yahoo keeps posting articles from CounterPunch.com which Red’s
favorite website rules is Left Biased with a mixed factual rating. You
can bet that Red isn’t going to point out the bad sources on the left
while she rarely misses an opportunity to attack bad sources with a
right bias.
It really has become trolling on her part. Hell, the website she uses is
run by some guy and doesn’t even pretend to be unbiased.
Or should one of the right wing folks adopt Red’s tactic and attack
the lefty websites?
And a comment on the original link.. it isn’t an anti-climate or right
wing website. It is a website for anti science kooks and crazies who
believe in the electric universe BS.
Cheers
Jim
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 16:01:39
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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I don't do counterpunch...because it's usually bopp
who posts it!
It doesn't mean I don't check it.
And, I do check left sites.
I just reported on a rating for one site that I
thought would be a bad fact check site (re: black
tea), that turned out to be good..and reported that.
I also can't sit here every day, all day and check
every single thing.
I am more cautious about those posters who
continuously post bad sources (logan, for instance)..
but check left and right articles, with my main focus
being on fact rating, and far less on bias.
I generally leave wowows alone, dream board, etc.
And yes, I do point out bad sources on the left...have
had Akira and a few others mad at me for posting bad
reviews, too. Fact is, Akira and our left and center
posters post far less bad sources than a few of our
hard right posters.
you generally post good sources..you probably don't
get many warnings on your sources.
And...these are "warnings" to be careful of a source,
to maybe fact check it yourself or seek an alternate
source. They aren't bans. No one's posts are removed
(even if I had that power, and I don't) because their
source has a bad history.
What seems to irritate a few posters here is that they
are challenged on where their info comes from and how
credible it is, that they wish to never have their
info criticized or scrutinized. That seems to be a
personal problem for them, not mine.
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 16:12:09
From: JTRIV , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Sorry Redhart, it looks like trolling.
And there are so few right leaning folks still here and really none that
are very level headed still posting ... which does match the left
leaning folks here. I think about you constantly saying the right
wingers were beating a dead horse regarding Obama. That comes to
mind when the lefties beat the same dead horse about Trump. You
extreme lefties should tolerate the extreme righties better... you are
just opposite sides of the same coin.
Cheers
Jim
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Date: March 12, 2020 at 16:19:04
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Thank you for sharing, Jim!
Your opinion is on record.
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 17:22:36
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Hi mr bopp,
I disagree with you because she is simply defaming those sites in
tutti.
The info on naturalnews or the one I mentioned above is not in any
way more biased than what she posts. If she disagrees that is
another point. But she doesn't. It is simply defaming. That is not
good for your site. Naturalnews has a wealth of news on natural
medicine and many articles in some way related to technology and
its diddicult relation with nature, plus some political stuff.
Mentioning any site suggesting an electric universe or an electric
sun causes the same response as you have witnessed here. She
has no counter arguments just, in my words, "beware. so and so
said this site is all shit"
The same goes for climate change. As soon as I post anything
which questions her co2 driven agenda, with verifiable data and
clear explanations, Mrs Defamer comes along and defames the
entire site. Is that what you want on this board?
It is your board which is devalued with her automatic defaming.
:::
Concerning my relectric sun response you said
"as far as the sun goes, imo, its activity is in direct correlation to
human activity..."
That is not in disagreement with an electric sun, quite to the
contrary. It couples the sun directly with everything going on here
on earth including all human activity, way stronger than most
humans would believe at this time. The masses may think and the
self-appointed elites pretend they are in control.
The 5G satellites along with the huge number of 5G equipment is
an electrical catastrophe beyond Fukushima, Chernobyl and all
atomic bomb tesing combined.
Apart from the extreme biological non-thermal effects on us
electric earthlings all microwave based communication acts like a
a huge microwave oven, a big brain cooker and green leaf cooker.
In my opinion the sun is very unhappy about what is going on here
on earth and how humans are destroying the essence of life in ever
so ingenious ways.
A Carrington event or two or three will be necessary to get them
earthlings' attention. Those events appear to be not so rare. In the
past they did not cause too much damage because there was
almost no technical infrastructure around compared to todays
proportions. But a huge outburst from the sun in the 2020s would
cause dramatic technological failures.
The Coronavirus may have been "sponsored" by a full 5G rollout in
Wuhan and elsewhere critically damaging the human immune
system. The worldwide C.V. craziness may be a "shield" to deflect
from people revolting against 5G so that the Musks and Gates of
this world can continue with their inhumane agenda.
sequoia
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 14:19:20
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the sun is driving earth's climate not co2 |
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Folks--be careful with that site. It's an anti-climate
psuedoscience conspiracy site.
Do remember to fact check information from that site, or
seek out a reliable, scientific valid site for the
subject matter.
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Date: March 11, 2020 at 14:28:04
From: chaskuchar@stcharles, [DNS_Address]
Subject: red, which link did you have problems with? |
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i think the world is revolting at man because he is
forgetting about God and living with the world God
made for us. chas
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