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Date: February 13, 2020 at 10:49:48
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Tesla - Pretend to Save the Environment While Looking Rich

URL: https://youtu.be/PLxPAwIeL0w


Tesla - Pretend to Save the Environment While Looking Rich


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Date: February 15, 2020 at 09:52:01
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: They’ve known for three years that electric car battery production, re

URL: https://andersonshelter.blogspot.com/2020/02/theyve-known-for-three-years-that-tesla.html


They’ve known for three years that electric car battery production, releases as much CO2 as 8 years of driving on petrol or diesel.

NO SUCH THING AS GREEN ELECTRIC TRANSPORT... FACT.

Huge hopes have been tied to electric cars as the solution to automotive CO2 climate problem. But it turns out the electric car batteries are eco-villains in the production process of creating them. Several tons of carbon dioxide has been emitted, even before the batteries leave the factory.

IVL Swedish Environmental Research Institute was commissioned by the Swedish Transport Administration and the Swedish Energy Agency to investigate litium-ion batteries climate impact from a life cycle perspective.

There are batteries designed for electric vehicles included in the study. The two authors Lisbeth Dahllöf and Mia Romare has done a meta-study that is reviewed and compiled existing studies.

The report shows that the battery manufacturing leads to high emissions. For every kilowatt hour of storage capacity in the battery generated emissions of 150 to 200 kilos of carbon dioxide already in the factory.

The researchers did not study individual brand batteries, how these were produced, or the electricity mix they use. But if we understand the great importance of the battery here is an example: Two common electric cars on the market, the Nissan Leaf and the Tesla Model S, the batteries about 30 kWh and 100 kWh.

Even before buying the car emissions occurred, corresponding to approximately 5.3 tons and 17.5 tons of Carbon Dioxide. The numbers can be difficult to relate to.

As a comparison, a trip for one person round trip from Stockholm to New York by air causes the release of more than 600 kilograms of carbon dioxide, according to the UN organization ICAO calculation.


Another conclusion of the study is that about half the emissions arising from the production of raw materials and half the production of the battery factory. The mining accounts for only a small proportion of between 10-20 percent.


The calculation is based on the assumption that the electricity mix used in the battery factory consists of more than half of the fossil fuels. In Sweden, the power production is mainly of fossil-nuclear and hydropower why lower emissions had been achieved.


The study also concluded that emissions grow almost linearly with the size of the battery, even if it is pinched by the data in that field. It means that a battery of the Tesla-size contributes more than three times as much emissions as the Nissan Leaf size. It is a result that surprised Mia Romare.

This report was first published in 2017, but completely ignored !!!

TAXI LEAKS EXTRA BIT :
Also, see this report about the new generation plug in hybrids👇



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Date: February 16, 2020 at 03:14:58
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: They’ve known for three years that electric car battery...


Hi pamela,

the electric car hype is affected by money, greed and dominance
like most other products.

There certainly are some arguments for electrically powered cars
but not for their batteries.

They do not produce much noise and they do not pollute the air
where they drive. The other side of the equation is the pollution
created for the production of batteries and for recharging them.

If the electricity in the car would be generated with H2 or similar
technology such as compressed air then the wasteful batteries
would not be necessary. I don't understand why safe H2 generators
or compressed air technology are not available today. Most likely
this is also a result of money, greed and dominance.

Sooner or later it is not back-to-the-future but back-to-the-bicycle.

So you better get an early start to some substantial training.

sequoia


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Date: February 16, 2020 at 11:00:39
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: They’ve known for three years that electric car battery...


"The other side of the equation is the pollution
created for the production of batteries and for recharging them."

that's what the article says, yep and the disposal of the batteries - not eco friendly or green at all.


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Date: February 14, 2020 at 13:01:34
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tesla - Pretend to Save the Environment While Looking Rich


Hi pamela,

some info on the great pretender business:

https://www.rt.com/business/430908-tesla-co2-gasoline-cars/

https://principia-scientific.org/study-tesla-car-battery-production-
releases-as-much-co2-as-8-years-of-driving-on-gas/

It appears quite difficult to get a realistic estimate of the type and
amount of emissions which are produced to build and operate
electric cars. I wonder why the development of engines running on
h2 and o2 disappeared completely. is it a result of greed and
money making as usual in our advanced society?

sequoia


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16954


Date: February 13, 2020 at 16:12:12
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Tesla - Pretend to Save the Environment While Looking Rich


Hi pamela,

have you applied for the latest Tesla yet so that you can become a
truly good and Greta compatible person loved by all CO2 minimizers?
I would hope so.

If haven't then, one day soon, Greta and Elon may come after you
and snatch your gas guzzling station wagon of olde tymes away from
you on account of you being a CO2 disturber and real stinker.

sequoia


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