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Date: December 04, 2019 at 23:38:11
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Since “climate change” alarmism has flopped, the same scammers are now

URL: This climate change rebranding is nothing more than another attempt at using semantics to scare people


Since “climate change” alarmism has flopped, the same
scammers are now toying with a new phrase they hope
will sound more urgent


(Natural News) Climate change alarmists aren’t quite
getting the results they’d like with their current
approach, so they’re doing what any smart business
people would do when their product isn’t selling:
switching to a new marketing tactic. Now, they’re
trying to get a more urgent-sounding phrase for the
issue to catch on – one that they hope will spur more
people into taking actions that will further their
political causes and line their pocketbooks.

Writing in Ad Age, professional brand strategist
Aaron Hall said that he feels terms like “global
warming” and “climate change” are too neutral and
don’t grab enough attention. He points to the example
of the “hypothesis of the primeval atom,” a
scientific term that never really resonated in the
1900s. However, a rebranding as the “Big Bang” a few
decades later has made it a household term that most
people are familiar with these days.

Climate change isn’t really specific; climate, by its
very nature, changes regularly. Global warming, Hall
says, was initially favored by politicians because it
sounded like a reason to worry, but it’s something
that’s too easy to dispute because there are also
times when our planet gets colder.

His team came up with some ideas that they apparently
hope will scare more people into voting for liberals.
He said: “We need these folks to understand the
severity of what’s happening to their planet and
inspire them to make more eco-friendly life choices
and pro-climate choices at the ballot box.”

In that spirit, two of his top choices are “global
meltdown” and “global melting.” He believes that the
feeling of “melting” when it’s really hot is
something people can relate to, while a “meltdown”
calls to mind a nuclear meltdown, which is something
that certainly inspires fear.

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Another set of terms that he also deemed adequately
frightening were “climate chaos” and “climate
collapse.” Meanwhile, he identified “scorched earth”
as an edgy choice that paints a dire picture that is
more likely to scare the masses.

Lots of efforts underway to change the narrative
This is far from a one-man effort, by the way. A
group of climate-related NGOs like the Sierra Club,
Greenpeace, and Al Gore’s Climate Reality Project
sent a letter to the major TV networks begging them
to start referring to climate change as a “crisis.”

The group, which calls itself Call it a Crisis,
wrote: “We are urging you to call the dangerous
overheating of our planet and the lack of action to
stop it what it is — a crisis — and to cover it like
one.”

They said that the topic needs to be covered with
language signaling that it’s a “true emergency,” and
they offered to connect them with “experts” who they
feel can communicate their message.

In May, UK newspaper The Guardian announced that it
had changed its house style guide to replace the term
“climate change” with “climate emergency, crisis or
breakdown”. They also updated the term “climate
skeptic” to the more aggressive “climate science
denier.”

Of course, if the situation really were so dire,
would anyone need to beg the networks to cover it?
Would it be necessary to play with words at all? True
collapse and chaos would be obvious to everyone. As
James Murphy wrote in the New American, “Rebranding
is something politicians and salespeople do – not
scientists.”

This climate change rebranding is nothing more than
another attempt at using semantics to scare people
into compliance. They want to convince people to give
up their appliances, cars, and eventually, their
freedom in the name of saving the planet.


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Date: December 05, 2019 at 08:49:27
From: karen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Since “climate change” alarmism has flopped, the same scammers...


will await the new phrase .... no surprise there.

wonder how california feels ... they sure are feeling the
global 'warming' right now .... lol ......


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Date: December 05, 2019 at 10:07:43
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Since “climate change” alarmism has flopped, the same scammers...


we are definitely feeling the effects of it...


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16803


Date: December 06, 2019 at 11:56:57
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I wonder....


if the denialists don't believe in the existence of
Venice.

With the record tides coming in, I suppose the
evidence might be washed away after a time....


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16804


Date: December 06, 2019 at 12:17:20
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...


Hi Awen,

Keep in mind that sea level is never static, it is
always changing. We currently live in the Holocene
which has low sea levels compared to previous
interglacials. 120,000 years ago during the Eemian
interglacial sea level was 20-30 ft higher than
today. Further back the MIS 11 interglacial had sea
levels up to 60 ft higher than today.

Many locations in low areas will be in big trouble
as sea level rises.

Cheers

Jim


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16805


Date: December 06, 2019 at 13:31:18
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...

URL: https://www.vice.com/en_uk/article/ne8gw7/new-orleans-is-slowly-drowning-thanks-to-climate-change


So why ignore what is happening

At least funding will need to be found and spent to mitigate its effects, if
not the causes. If sea defences on a scale of the Netherlands aren't
invested in coastal populations and businesses will need somehow to
relocate further inland.

Meanwhile Trump wants more coal mining while New Orleans floods -
maybe he'll wake up when Trump Towers becomes an island with an
ocean view.




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16806


Date: December 06, 2019 at 15:38:34
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...


Hi Alan,

> So why ignore what is happening

The people ignoring what is happening are those that
ignore where the source of these emissions are
coming from. If Trump had kept the US in the Paris
Climate agreement China was going to peak their
emissions by 2030 and global emissions would have
kept rising. Now that Trump pulled out of the Paris
Climate agreement China is still going to peak their
emissions by 2030 and emissions will keep rising.

Personally I think we should focus more on
mitigation. Because until fossil fuels can be
replaced emissions will keep rising no matter what
political party is in office. And sea levels are
unusually low in the context of the interglacials of
the last half million years so we certainly should
plan on rising sea levels and flooding of locations
at or below the current sea levels. Hopefully we
will stop building in places such as New Orleans
that are already below sea level.

Cheers

Jim


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16807


Date: December 06, 2019 at 16:11:11
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...

URL: https://science.sciencemag.org/content/272/5259/246


Nuke China to mitigate all the years since the start of Roman smelting /
industrial revolution ... ;-)


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Date: December 06, 2019 at 17:28:38
From: JTRIV , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...


Well that is probably no more or less effective than blaming Trump.

I have no solution either, except mitigation strategies. That would be
much more effective than the yearly climate summits last that have
spawned Kyoto and Paris which both exempted what everyone knew
was the source of 21st century emissions.

Cheers

Jim


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Date: December 06, 2019 at 18:46:35
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...

URL: The day after Tomorrow - Americans Crossing


prescient...


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Date: December 06, 2019 at 19:30:57
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: keep in mind...


Suggest you search for Trump coal mines and from there it depends if you
believe in climate change 'fake news' ... or Trumpy's take


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Date: December 06, 2019 at 20:06:56
From: JTRIV , [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I’m aware, doesn’t change the facts (NT)


(NT)


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Date: December 06, 2019 at 19:06:01
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: are you overwhelmed by recent politics Alan??(NT)


(NT)


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Date: December 05, 2019 at 08:33:45
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Since “climate change” alarmism has flopped, the same scammers...


Hi Logan,

the crisis may arrive sooner than later however not in the climate
change alarmists' way. When their behinds go into deep freeze
mode because the air temperatures are headed into the icy region
for several months then there is a good chance they come after
your hot cocoa calling you a thief of the warmth they deserve and
before you know it your hot cocoa is all gone.

It is not only highly arrogant in a most unscientific fashion but also
stupid beyond the edge of the universe to ignore the fundamental
fact that earth's climate is directly coupled to what the sun is doing
energy-wise which in turn is reflected in the number of sunspots as
far back as a chronology of sunspots and solar observations exists.

So you better be prepared to hold on to your hot cocoa reserves.
Those prospective icy climate deniers with freezing behinds can
easily outsmart you when they feel a need to warm up with your
hot and high energy drink. It is called the "freezing behinds law".

sequoia





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16798


Date: December 05, 2019 at 02:17:58
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Natural News: most discredited source on internet


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Date: December 05, 2019 at 06:26:33
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Natural News is truly valuable news


Hi Redhart,

I was expecting you to chime in with your false citation.

Your mind has become poisoned and your judgement biased.

You have turned yourself into a far-left automaton.

sequoia


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