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Date: November 21, 2019 at 13:04:55
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals

URL: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to
Climate Goals

Bloomberg News
November 20, 2019, 2:26 AM CST

China has enough coal-fired power plants in the
pipeline to match the entire capacity of the
European Union, driving the expansion in global coal
power and confounding the movement against the
polluting fossil fuel, according to a report.

The nation has almost 148 gigawatts of coal-fired
capacity under active construction or likely to be
resumed after being suspended, Global Energy
Monitor, a non-profit group that tracks coal
stations, said in the report Thursday based on
plant-by-plant data. That’s almost equivalent to 150
gigawatts of existing coal fleet capacity in the EU
and more than the combined 105 gigawatts under
construction in the rest of the world, it said.

In contrast to many other countries, including the
U.K.’s pledge to shut all coal plants by 2025,
Beijing remains committed to coal as its biggest
source of power, representing a major challenge to
global emissions reduction targets. Its additions in
the 18 months to June dwarf declines elsewhere in
the world, according to the report.

“As more countries turn away from coal and retire
their plants, China’s continued pursuit of coal is
increasingly out of step with the rest of the world,
and is now effectively driving the ongoing expansion
of the global coal fleet,” the report said.

China’s National Development & Reform Commission,
its top economic planner, the National Energy
Administration and the China Electricity Council
didn’t respond to requests for comment.

Though China has spent more on clean energy than any
other country and is pushing to burn natural gas
instead of coal to counter smog, it’s still pumping
money at home and abroad into coal-fired generation.
Meanwhile, growing climate-change pressure has
spurred a retreat from thermal coal by top miners
such as Rio Tinto Group and BHP Group Plc and
prompted lenders including Standard Chartered Plc
and HSBC Holdings Plc to slash financing for new
coal projects.

Worldwide coal-power capacity grew by almost 35
gigawatts from 2018 through June 2019 as an increase
in China’s fleet offset a decline of 8.1 gigawatts
in other countries.

The nation is on track to cap installed coal power
capacity at 1,100 gigawatts by 2020. However, its
coal and power industry groups are proposing further
expansion to capacity of 1,200 to 1,400 gigawatts by
2035, according to the report. Should that be
adopted, China alone would have more than triple the
limit on worldwide coal power determined by the
Paris climate agreement to keep global warming well
below 2 degrees Celsius (3.6 degrees Fahrenheit),
GEM said.

Instead, China needs to cut its current coal power
capacity of 1,027 gigawatts more than 40% in order
to meet the reductions required to meet the 2-degree
target, according to GEM’s analysis.

The report, by Christine Shearer, Aiqun Yu, and Ted
Nace, used data compiled by GEM’s Global Coal Plant
Tracker. China has been closing about 8 gigawatts of
coal power capacity annually for the past several
years, Nace said in an email, adding that “in order
to retire the large amounts of capacity needed to
meet Paris mandates, China will have to soon begin
retiring much younger plants.”

GEM, originally founded as CoalSwarm, describes
itself on its website as “an incubator for
innovative projects in ecology and social justice”
and has received funding from groups including
ClimateWorks Foundation, the National Resources
Defense Council and the Sierra Club Foundation.

Michael R. Bloomberg, the founder and majority
stakeholder of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of
Bloomberg News, has committed $500 million to launch
Beyond Carbon, a campaign aimed at closing the
remaining coal-powered plants in the U.S. by 2030
and slowing the construction of new gas plants.


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16750


Date: November 21, 2019 at 23:07:49
From: Teresa N Cal, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Why do we still do business with these people? Our
money is encouraging this!!!


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16756


Date: November 22, 2019 at 11:27:17
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


The Trump administration policies denying climate change and withdrawing
from climate treaties is what's largely encouraging this.


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16757


Date: November 22, 2019 at 13:16:29
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Hi Akira,

> The Trump administration policies denying climate
> change and withdrawing from climate treaties is
> what's largely encouraging this.

LOL well NO. China's emissions have been growing and
growing for decades. China's emissions surpassed US
emissions in 2005 and are now double our emissions
and still rapidly growing.

China signed the Paris Agreement which didn't
require ANYTHING of the world's biggest emitter.
That was the same thing that doomed the Kyoto
Protocol. China only committed that they hope to
peak their emissions by 2030.... meaning they will
continue to grow emissions by more than the rest of
the world could possibly cut. That's not Trump's
fault.... it was another meaningless agreement that
Obama signed that if it succeeded global emissions
would have kept rising. And they patted themselves
on that back for that!

Cheers

Jim


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16759


Date: November 22, 2019 at 18:49:47
From: Akira, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


It boils down to zero global leadership from the world's (alleged) greatest
power, the U.S. I don't care who is president, they have a moral obligation to
lead by example. Trump has utterly failed. He has zero vision, imagination
or concern for future generations. Cheers!


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16760


Date: November 22, 2019 at 19:59:38
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Hi Akira,

I understand a lot of people are fixated on Trump...
but this is an issue that has been around for many
years and isn't related to what people may think
about our President. If anything it was the rather
incompetent Obama administration that negotiated and
signed on to the Paris agreement which didn't put
any goal on the largest and fastest growing emitter
on the planet. What a great deal that if the US and
every other nation actually achieved their promised
reductions global CO2 emissions would continue to
grow. Mickey Mouse could be President and it
wouldn't matter... China is driving global emissions
and they continue to increase their use of coal.

Cheers

Jim


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16761


Date: November 22, 2019 at 20:15:35
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


jina may be driving emissions now but we set the bar and the paradigm...unconscious fools unaware of the consequences of their actions and feeble "technology"...and it is the US that drives the world economy...we are the main consumers and arrogantly continue our misguided ways...we think we understand physics and the law, that every action has an equal and opposite reaction...we made and set up the game, now you want the new players to pay for the results of our ignorance...we should be leading the efforts to initiate change, awareness and technological consciousness...but we continue to wallow in our own shit and refuse to accept our culpability for the problems we have caused...own it jim, it will set you free...


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Date: November 22, 2019 at 23:09:33
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Self-flagellation???

URL: China’s giant middle class is still growing and companies from Walmart to start-ups are trying to cash in


Hi ryan,

I get that you want the US to fall on our collective
swords as punishments for whatever you feel so
guilty about. But all this climate talk is supposed
to be about.... well CLIMATE and not just some self-
flagellation for those with some misguided guilt.

Isn't that the goal? Isn't this supposed to be about
actually reducing global emissions? Or maybe I'm the
one that is wrong... after all the climate treaties
they keep working out seem to accept rapidly rising
global emissions.

And you really do need to update your view of China.
They have more middle class consumers than the US
has people. More cars and other consumer goods are
sold in China that the US. China is a major world
power in every sense of the word... and still
exempted from climate treaties. Why is that? Are
there that many people into self-flagellation?

Cheers

Jim


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Date: November 23, 2019 at 00:09:52
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Self-flagellation???


guess you're not a leader....don't worry, you have lots of company...


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16752


Date: November 21, 2019 at 23:25:20
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Who do you think I do business with when?

LMAO...

Cheers

Jim


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16753


Date: November 21, 2019 at 23:44:56
From: Teresa N Cal, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


I don't know who you do business with. I avoid Chinese
made products. As well as those from high polluters.
Grow my own and sell to local. Buy local. I live in
Cali and see garlic from China sold here! We grow it
here. Why ship it from 1/2 way around the world. It
is ridiculous.


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16758


Date: November 22, 2019 at 13:25:19
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Hi Teresa,

Sure, I also try to avoid Chinese products. But China
has more middle class consumers than the US so their
emissions aren't just because of what they ship
overseas. More cars are sold each year in China than
the US. The sames goes for pretty much all consumer
goods. They have 1.4 billion people.

Cheers

Jim


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16754


Date: November 22, 2019 at 07:52:24
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals






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16746


Date: November 21, 2019 at 20:04:05
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


following lardass' lead...


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Date: November 21, 2019 at 22:18:46
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Hi ryan,

LOL sure, it is always some one else's fault than the
people on the other side of the planet putting out the
most emissions.

Dumabss...

Jim


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16748


Date: November 21, 2019 at 22:22:00
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


same ol' cracker jim...can't take responsibility for his and his country' actions...always looking to blame someone else...


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Date: November 21, 2019 at 23:24:04
From: JTRIV, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


So you are still in denial that people on the other
side of the planet are driving global emissions???

LOL you never were willing to grasp the big picture.
That's OK, a lot of people who feel holier than thou
make the same stupid mistake. The aging hippies never
seem capable of seeing the big picture.

Cheers

Jim


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Date: November 21, 2019 at 18:16:46
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


Hi Jim,

Welcome to human nature.

When you tell somebody what they can't do, the first thing they do is what
you said not to...

In all walks of life....

Nice to hear/see you.
Hope all's well,
Jeff


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Date: November 21, 2019 at 22:22:53
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: China Set for Massive Coal Expansion in Threat to Climate Goals


don't man up...


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