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From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: NASA - climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit
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NASA admits that climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar orbit, and NOT because of SUVs and fossil fuels For more than 60 years, the National Aeronautics and Space Administration (NASA) has known that the changes occurring to planetary weather patterns are completely natural and normal. But the space agency, for whatever reason, has chosen to let the man-made global warming hoax persist and spread, to the detriment of human freedom. It was the year 1958, to be precise, when NASA first observed that changes in the solar orbit of the earth, along with alterations to the earth’s axial tilt, are both responsible for what climate scientists today have dubbed as “warming” (or “cooling,” depending on their agenda). In no way, shape, or form are humans warming or cooling the planet by driving SUVs or eating beef, in other words. But NASA has thus far failed to set the record straight, and has instead chosen to sit silently back and watch as liberals freak out about the world supposedly ending in 12 years because of too much livestock, or too many plastic straws. In the year 2000, NASA did publish information on its Earth Observatory website about the Milankovitch Climate Theory, revealing that the planet is, in fact, changing due to extraneous factors that have absolutely nothing to do with human activity. But, again, this information has yet to go mainstream, some 19 years later, which is why deranged, climate- obsessed leftists have now begun to claim that we really only have 18 months left before the planet dies from an excess of carbon dioxide (CO2). The truth, however, is much more along the lines of what Serbian astrophysicist Milutin Milankovitch, after whom the Milankovitch Climate Theory is named, proposed about how the seasonal and latitudinal variations of solar radiation that hit the earth in different ways, and at different times, have the greatest impact on earth’s changing climate patterns. The below two images (by Robert Simmon, NASA GSFC) help to illustrate this, with the first showing earth at a nearly zero orbit, and the second showing earth at a 0.07 orbit. This orbital change is depicted by the eccentric, oval shape in the second image, which has been intentionally exaggerated for the purpose of showing the massive change in distance that occurs between the earth and the sun, depending on whether it is at perihelion or aphelion. The biggest factor affecting earth’s climate is the SUN As for earth’s obliquity, or its change in axial tilt, the below two images (Robert Simmon, NASA GSFC) show the degree to which the earth can shift on both its axis and its rotational orientation. At the higher tilts, earth’s seasons become much more extreme, while at lower tilts they become much more mild. A similar situation exists for earth’s rotational axis, which depending on which hemisphere is pointed at the sun during perihelion, can greatly impact the seasonal extremes between the two hemispheres. When Milankovitch first put forward his model, it went ignored for nearly half a century. Then, in 1976, a study published in the journal Science confirmed that Milankovitch’s theory is, in fact, accurate, and that it does correspond to various periods of climate change that have occurred throughout history. In 1982, six years after this study was published, the National Research Council of the U.S. National Academy of Sciences adopted Milankovitch’s theory as truth, declaring that: “… orbital variations remain the most thoroughly examined mechanism of climatic change on time scales of tens of thousands of years and are by far the clearest case of a direct effect of changing insolation on the lower atmosphere of Earth.” If we had to sum the whole thing up in one simple phrase, it would be this: The biggest factor influencing weather and climate patterns on earth is the sun, period. Depending on the earth’s position to the sun at any given time, climate conditions are going to vary dramatically, and even create drastic abnormalities that defy everything that humans thought they knew about how the earth worked. But rather than embrace this truth, today’s climate “scientists,” joined by leftist politicians and a complicit mainstream media, insist that not using reusable grocery bags at the supermarket and not having an electric vehicle are destroying the planet so quickly that we absolutely must implement global climate taxes as the solution. “The climate change debate is not about science. It is an effort to impose political and economic controls on the population by the elite,” wrote one commenter at the Hal Turner Radio Show. “And it’s another way to divide the population against itself, with some who believe in man-made global warming and some who don’t, i.e. divide and conquer.” |
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From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: One cause doesn't invalidate the other
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It's fascinating how both sides deem their cause the only cause. The reality is that there are many factors, and I have seen this one in academic journals, and that about solar storms. Thing is...it's complex, there are multiple causes, and humans do remain at this current point in history one of the larger ones. Doesn't negate the possibility that many things COULD happen (and have happened in the past) that make even current human impact look trivial. But at present, humanity pushes closest to that precipice, we're probably already over it, and it wouldn't take much of a surge of any of the other causes to make even current circumstances seem mild by comparison. |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Natural News: most discredited source on internet
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🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩 CONSPIRACY-PSEUDOSCIENCE Sources in the Conspiracy-Pseudoscience category may publish unverifiable information that is not always supported by evidence. These sources may be untrustworthy for credible/verifiable information, therefore fact checking and further investigation is recommended on a per article basis when obtaining information from these sources. See all Conspiracy- Pseudoscience sources. Overall, we rate Natural News a Questionable source based on promotion of quackery level pseudoscience and conspiracy theories, as well as extreme right wing bias. This is one of the most discredited sources on the internet. Detailed Report Factual Reporting: LOW |
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From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Discredited by Lefty drones who hate truth/facts(NT)
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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Hi Redhart, the percentage of posts from you which have no content but simply denounce contributions from other posters is rising daily. You do not present evidence that such and such is incorrect. All you do is cite this or that website which you seem to consider an outright representation of the all-knowing. Your attitude is what eco-facism is all about. Shouting and denouncing without presenting a shred of evidence for anything you claim. Apparently you do not even seem to realize the degree of brainwashing that you have experienced and are now trying to impose on ther contributors to earthboppin. I recommend to you to either dsicuss facts in a civilized manner or SHUT UP and get lost with your eco-facism. sequoia |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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Nope, it's crap--psuedoscience /conspiracy(pretty much everyone knows this). The warning is for others. so, go fish. |
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From: abra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
| Redheart, if you'd bothered to explore natural news, you would REALIZE it's not from one source, it's a new amalgamator from many diverse correspondents, you are showing your IGNORANCE by lumping them all together, you get everything from excellent breaking info to total bullshit on the site, you are only partially right, but FULLY JUDGEMENTAL, that's for damn sure, that goes for JIM just as much, you closeD mninded fools! |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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Sorry--abra, been around here since 2004, so it's not like I'm not familiar with that site, and its turned to crap. I have read it...I've stopped because there's nothing there anymore but conspiracy,psuedoscience and tin foil hat spin. It's complete garbage now. I'm fully aware that you like complete bullshit. My warnings are for others. |
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Redhart censoring from the desert for the desert
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Hi Redhart, you better tone down your aggression and redirect some vital energy to your seemingly de-energized thinking department. Your "warnings" are a lousily concealed way of censoring the posts and posters here according to your philosophical turns and twists. Are thou "in good hope" that thou can "streamline" those with differing opinions whose thinking patterns happen to wander off beyond the limits of Redharts thought cage? sequoia |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Sequoia can't handle criticism-- no one's censored.
| go fish :) 🐟 |
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: You are spreading false and derogatory claims
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Hi Redhart, you are using a technique developed from fascists for denouncing anyone who does not share their opinions. Nowhere did I suggest that other posters cannot critizice the contents of my posts which you imply here. You are deliberately fabricating and spreading false and derogatory claims. That is as ungood as it gets. sequoia |
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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Hi Redhart, again you are not discussing facts but simply denounce an entire website as crap. Again you fail to adhere to your own high-flying scientific standards by NOT providing a shred of evidence. Take your factfree denouncements elsewhere. They are of no use on earthboppin. You have ZERO credibility left. sequoia |
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From: etc., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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I believe it is your credibility at stake here Sequoia.You are the person who called Red and I out saying that our “anger” was a marker for an earthquake in our area before September 25. You were rude and you were wrong. Your method was wrong. I told you then that I had always read your ideas with interest. Not any more. People learn. The same goes for Natural News and other sites that continually post mis-information. Once things are proven wrong and the news site does not admit its mistake and make a retraction, it becomes obvious they are in the business of promoting propaganda and swaying their readers into believing things that are not true. Once this kind of discernment is learned, it isn’t necessary to dissect every article anymore. Their patterns become clear. Red and others were really good and patient at pointing these things out in the beginning. But as it became evident and redundant, they have changed to just making the statement about the site and moving on. To warn others, not you. You and people like you have chosen to follow the deception for your own purposes and agendas. And that is evident too. People who want truth fight for it. Others use misinformation to promote their own ideas. It is about honor and dishonor. And self respect. If people want to be respected, their ideas to be respected, they must make choices that honor that. |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NaturalNews is worth reading: your censor attitude is rotten
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All you have is psuedoscience jibber-jabber, and I'll keep my high-flying science, tyvm--serves us pretty well. You can thank it for that computer you're typing on, the internet it connects you with and most of the data you collect on that web that you don't even understand how to use. Not going anywhere, sweetie--and it's not censureship. That post is still there, just giving my opinion on the source of it and the back up link to let others know I'm not the only one that thinks that, and there's data to back it up. So jabber away if you want about goats or whatever. It's not going to stop me from adding my 2 cents. Freedom of speech works both ways. Last I looked, Bopp runs this site, not you. If it were up to me, you'd be relagated to the wowows board. You can think Bopp for his patience and perserverance. wail away with the last word, doesn't bother me, but do understand when you attack me personally and attempt to troll me, you will be getting fishing messages. Get that pole ready. I don't do trolls or fools well...and I'm not going to stop warning others if I see bad, unreliable sources posted. |
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16622
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA - climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s solar...
URL: https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/857059232130236416/6KNutFFr_400x400.jpg
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NASA ..sssssss🐍sssssss... blah, blah, blah...more expostulations, and more, this way, that way, turn around, moonies, not so natural, more words, no it's like this, no it's like that, oops... doh, no, yes, pay us your taxes we got nature to screw up ...running out of time...don't tell them that, tell them this...you can trust us to drop carcinogens....ork....use the medium of natural news to confuse whenever possible and use the acronym NASA it sounds smart even though it's dumb...any means to disturbia ...dumb em down with a little this a little that...right no left, which way? up, down and all around..death ranger gummy fish blechies... they gonna down and don't even know it...hehehehehe...thems belived us moon mens from the never never land...snickers...we eat dem for last supper the dumber the better they tastes...tipsy nipsy...ShuT uP!........maybe later....trusssssssssssssssssssst ussssssssssssssssssssssnakes......🐍 ..........thank you! now pay us for destruction...taxessssssss, max the tax...🐍!!! and the Serbian astropoophist too! 
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
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Hi Eve, there are many factors contributing to earth's climate including changes in earth's orbit, some small some not so small, which occur over months, years, deccades, centuries, millenia, eons, mega-eons. I think Logan posted the NASA story not because of NASA but because of the physical arguments in the article which are quite valid, with or without NASA. A few days ago I read another article according to which Elon Musk, the intellectual high-flyer, wants to install 30000 satellites in earth orbits for beaming 5g signals up and down, so that everyone on earth can pick the communicational fruit Musk is offering. It is an absolutely extreme change for our electromagnetic environment and will completely destroy what is left over from the natural environment of our planet as it was until about 150 years ago when waves of ever-increasing "collective enlightening" started to elevate human wisdom. NASA severely damaged the atmosphere and ionosphere with the s... produced by their space shuttles, especially in Florida, with their huge loads of combustible substances used for propulsion. But the ?all private? space-x is no better. If Musk gets what he wants the surface of the entire planet including all life forms will be forced to absorb unprecedented amounts of electromagnetic radition, 24 hours a day 365 days a year, 366 days in leap years, which has been shown to catastrophically interfere with and damage living cells. In addition earth's climate will get the benefit of 30000 microwave ovens heating everything which can be heated. But Greta darling is nowhere around to speak up about Musk's endeavor. Why? The fire Musk is going to put up in the skies is not a campfire which warms your heart with bio-compatible wavelength but it is highly destructive for living organisms. Nevertheless, just as there is an optimal position for you to enjoy the warmth of a campfire there is also an optimal position for earth in relation to the sun. If that position changes, for whatever reason, the climate on earth is influenced in the same way as your sensing of the campfire warmth changes as you circle around the fire. Even the minutest changes of your "campfire orbit" translate into changes in your sensing of its warmth. It is that simple. sequoia |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
URL: Liquid Hydrogen--the Fuel of Choice for Space Exploration
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At October 20, 2019 at 02:52:48, sequoia wrote: NASA severely damaged the atmosphere and ionosphere with the s... produced by their space shuttles, especially in Florida, with their huge loads of combustible substances used for propulsion. Sigh... don't suppose you use a kettle Space Shuttle Main Engine Rocket Fuel = LH2/LOX Once in the tanks and with the launch countdown nearing zero, the LH2 and LOX are pumped into the combustion chamber of each engine. When the propellant is ignited, the hydrogen reacts explosively with oxygen to form: water! Elementary! 2H2 + O2 = 2H2O + Energy This “green” reaction releases massive amounts of energy along with superheated water (steam). The hydrogen-oxygen reaction generates tremendous heat, causing the water vapor to expand and exit the engine nozzles at speeds of 10,000 miles per hour! All that fast-moving steam creates the thrust that propels the rocket from Earth. |
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: space shuttle solid fuel boosters : ignoramus or leave outer ?
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Hi (....) there are two options here regarding your fine lecture on space shuttle propulsion 1 you did not know that the space shuttle used solid fuel boosters 2 you did know that the space shuttle used solid fuel boosters According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle_Solid_Rocket_Booster solid rocket boosters with a propellant mass of 1,100,000 pounds (500,000 kg) or 500 metric tons provided the majority of the Space Shuttle's thrust during the first two minutes of flight. If you fall into the option 1 category you have disqualified yourself from commenting on space shuttle propulsion. If you fall into the option 2 category you are a leave outer, a person who pretends to enlighten others about a certain subject but leaves out the most critical components. Select for yourself which option applies to you. If you select option 1 you should go back to school. If you select option 2 you have proven again that you cannot be trusted in any way. According to the above article "The rocket propellant mixture in each solid rocket motor consisted of ammonium perchlorate (oxidizer, 69.6% by weight), atomized aluminum powder (fuel, 16%), iron oxide (catalyst, 0.4%), PBAN (binder, also acts as fuel, 12.04%), and an epoxy curing agent (1.96%).[8][9] This propellant is commonly referred to as Ammonium Perchlorate Composite Propellant, or simply APCP. This mixture gave the solid rocket motors a specific impulse of 242 seconds (2.37 km/s) at sea level or 268 seconds (2.63 km/s) in a vacuum. The main fuel, aluminum, was used because it has a reasonable specific energy density of about 31.0 MJ/kg, but a high volumetric energy density, and is difficult to ignite accidentally." Without the solid fuel boosters not one of the space shuttles could have ever lifted off successfully. From this photo it is clear that the solid fuel boosters provide the lift need to get the shuttle off the ground. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:STS120LaunchHiRes-edit1.jpg The propellant mixture of the boosters is obviously quite different from your hydrogen/oxygen fuel cell which you claim to be the main engine components. According to https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Space_Shuttle there were 135 total launches, 134 successful, 133 landings, 2 failures (Challenger 1986, Columbia 2003) Altogether approximately 67500 metric tons or 67.5 million kg of solid fuel propellant were converted into heat and impulse, raining down on Florida and its surroundings a variety of reaction products which were produced by the burning of those fuel components. That differs quite a bit from what you were claiming. sequoia |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: space shuttle solid fuel boosters : ignoramus or leave outer ?
URL: https://spaceflightnow.com/2019/10/20/solid-rocket-motor-test-fired-for-atlas-5-debut-next-year/
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Lol & Sigh sequoia wrote: NASA severely damaged the atmosphere and ionosphere with the s... produced by their space shuttles Please provide link (none woo) to evidence that Shuttle launches have "severely damaged the atmosphere and ionosphere " wouldn't want you to appear as a leaver outer ;-) Lol to rest of your waffle - as you have previously claimed that global climate change isn't manmade then aren't you being a tad contradictory :-) Especially also as the Shuttle fleet in case you haven't noticed have been consigned to museums. Solid Boosters are still in service and in development/testing for many different rockets, inc the new SLS. If you have a problem with rockets then best write to your representative and keep your windows closed when everyone else is celebrating an event with fireworks... |
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From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: so you are a leave outer and deliberate misleader
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Hi ...., you don't deserve to be addressed with a name. Since you are aware of the existence of solid boosters you belong into category 2 which means that you are a leave outer. In other words, none of what you say can be trusted because you leave out the most important stuff if and whenever that disqualifies your argument and you spread deliberately incomplete and misleading information. sequoia |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: anglers dangerously close to huge plug hole
| go fish... |
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From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: so you are a leave outer and deliberate misleader
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LOL..see Alan? Jibber-jabber. that's all you're going to get from that one plus the attitude. |
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From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
| the big problem is that these rockets puncture our atmosphere on their way out to space and they drag a bunch of our atmosphere with them as they exit into space...think of all the spaceships launched...we are idiots... |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
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Plus carcinogenic and other stuff the repercussions not well understood....But who cares about that until after the damage is done and it's too late. |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
URL: https://www.grc.nasa.gov/www/k-12/TRC/Rockets/match_rocket.html
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At October 20, 2019 at 08:34:54, ryan wrote: the big problem is that these rockets puncture our atmosphere on their way out to space and they drag a bunch of our atmosphere with them as they exit into space...think of all the spaceships launched...we are idiots... Special tinfoil rocket award goes to ryan. Space shuttle bought back atmosphere from space in its cargo bay - and SpaceX booster stages will also bring back atmosphere with em when they return ;-) |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Earth's climate is influenced by changes in Earth’s orbit
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Yes, I know though it's ages old more than that....I was here when it went wrong from the start and I am here for the end. It's way more than anyone realizes or would believe and besides it's not mine to tell on this sojourn as if it were possible to reach others now, it's not and I was told it was so and I tried and it's true so I just sometimes release frustration over ignorant expostulations like from articles, etc. Also it's too much interference and stones for hearts to be able to get through it's gonna take something more as the love of many has grown cold. How it all goes down I don't know but it will be fast that I do know and from all directions. I will be okay though I would like to not be here it's what is required of me. Campfires..can't relate... the warmth needs to come from hearts but many are hardened and dark...though I hold on to hope as there is always hope. |
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From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA - climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s...
| My, you don't take criticism well do you? |
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From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: NASA - climate change occurs because of changes in Earth’s...
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It was a critique. lol |
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