All in all, only 9 percent of the world’s plastic scrap gets recycled. By Alex Lubben May 30 2019
The Philippines doesn’t want to recycle your low-grade plastic scrap anymore. Neither does China. Vietnam’s not thrilled about taking it either.
Earlier this week, Malaysia became the latest country to join the burgeoning trend: Governments across Southeast Asia are refusing to be dumping grounds for scrap that claims to be recyclable — but largely isn’t. Malaysia will send some 3,000 metric tons of plastic scrap back to where it came from, places like the U.S., Canada, Spain, and Saudi Arabia.
“Malaysia will not be the dumping ground of the world,” environment minister Yeo Bee Yin said.
The Philippines made a similar decision last week. The country’s strongman president, Rodrigo Duterte, went so far as to threaten to sever diplomatic ties and dump plastic in Canadian waters if Canada refused to take back 69 shipping containers of plastic scrap that had been sent to the Philippines illegally between 2013 and 2014.
The issue is largely with the plastics industry itself. Eager to make their materials seem recyclable and fend off bans on plastic products, industry groups have spent millions over 30 years to market and lobby for their products. The variety of plastic products — like lids, takeout containers, and straws — also makes scrap difficult to sort for companies trying to compete in a market that doesn’t exist anymore.
All in all, only 9 percent of the world’s plastic scrap gets recycled.
China used to buy up 7 million tons of plastic from the U.S. every year for top dollar, and 45 percent of the world’s plastic scrap between 1992 and 2017 ended up there, according to the United Nations. But China stopped buying plastic scrap in January of 2018. Since then, richer countries have sought to pawn off that unrecyclable material on less developed countries, largely in Southeast Asia, which can’t handle the volume.
That means unusable plastic trash is piling up — and recycling has gotten way more expensive.
But that relationship didn’t last long. China started regulating recycling in 2013, and shortly afterward the company Bourque was working with stopped accepting plastics from the U.S.
"At what point do you say, ‘You know what, it's not recyclable’?”
Then, in 2018, China decided to not just regulate recyclers but ban most plastic and paper scrap from being imported at all. Packaging has gotten more elaborate; paper will be mixed with plastic, stickers, and labels. And China determined that too much trash was mixed in with the recyclable material to make it worth importing.
There’s also a category of plastics that’s cheaper to make from scratch than to recycle. The prices that recyclers get for the lowest grades of plastic make them not worth the trouble of recycling.
“Recycling kind of lost its way in its overzealousness of trying to make everything recyclable,” Bourque said. “The bottom fell out of the market.”
Since then, other unregulated markets in Southeast Asia have tried to pick up where China left off. They haven’t been able to.
Dumped and burned Without China, plastics are ending up dumped into the ocean, illegally incinerated (which produces highly toxic fumes), or stuffed into poorly maintained landfills.
“These mountains of plastic waste sometimes end up being openly burned, which can have really significant health impacts,” said Claire Arkin of GAIA, an advocacy group that opposes incineration. “In Indonesia, the plastic is being burned in places like tofu factories for fuel.”
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Some of the plastic is also piling up on the world’s remote beaches. Last year, researchers estimated that the size of the Great Pacific Garbage Patch — as the huge mass of trash in the Pacific Ocean has become known — weighed at least 87,000 tons. Ultimately, some of that plastic disintegrates into tiny microparticles that get swallowed by fish and enters our own food chain.
1559242884473-AP_19148219600795 OFFICERS FROM THE MINISTRY OF ENVIRONMENT SHOW SAMPLES OF PLASTICS WASTE SHIPMENT FROM AUSTRALIA IN PORT KLANG, MALAYSIA, TUESDAY, MAY 28, 2019. (AP PHOTO / VINCENT THIAN) The turbulence in the global scrap markets is reverberating through U.S. towns and cities. Because China won’t buy up American scrap for top dollar anymore, recycling has become more expensive, and municipalities in the U.S. have started to abandon their recycling programs altogether. As it turns out, sorting and recycling plastics properly costs more.
Philadelphia is reportedly burning half of all the trash residents think they’re recycling. In Memphis, the airport still has bins labeled for recyclable scrap to preserve “the culture” of recycling, a spokesperson for the airport told the New York Times. But none of that’s being recycled. It’s ending up in landfills.
“When a product claims to be recyclable, my immediate response is, OK, ‘Where? How?’” said Joe Dunlop, a waste reduction administrator in Athens-Clarke County, Georgia, who’s been watching recycling markets for 20 years.
To recycling experts, the shift could prompt a reckoning for plastics recycling. They hope the pressure from Asia will lead to a new understanding of what can be recycled and what can’t. What’s ultimately needed, they say, is a reduction in the production and consumption of low-grade, single-use plastics.
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“It’s long overdue,” Dunlop said. “The stuff that we were sending overseas for processing was not of good quality, and we finally got called out on it.”
Berkeley — where Bourque tried to get a recycling relationship with China off the ground in 2013 — has stayed committed to its zero-waste policies, even as recycling has gotten more expensive. The city started selling its plastics to a facility in Southern California with optical sorting, a high-tech system that uses light to determine which plastics are recyclable.
“Even with optical sorting, there’s whole categories [of plastics] that have no market,” Bourque said. “Basically all the black plastic is just unmarketable.” (There’s still a good market for soda and water bottles, though, as well as aluminum cans.)
Since Berkeley started sending its plastic to an optical sorting facility, the city has more than doubled its recycling costs compared to what it paid to ship plastics to China, and much of the plastic delivered to the new facility is ultimately determined to be unrecyclable.
Even in Berkeley, a pioneer of municipal recycling in the U.S., they’re considering dropping most types of plastics from the kinds of things they recycle.
Date: September 28, 2019 at 12:38:08 From: David Fenton, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
The irony of this plastic problem is that it was the enviromentalists that pushed for plastic bags and packaging to save the trees for the excessive use of paper grocery bags and cardboard packaging years ago..At least paper bags would break down not like the plastic bags they were replaced with..Somewhat of a "catch 22" scenario...
Date: September 28, 2019 at 15:34:23 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Where it started and went wrong was in the inhabitants buying and selling of the garden we were to keep safe by the obedience to the true precepts (and he said do them better than the Pharisees).
The day of plastic & paper, bags, cardboard and such due to the buying and selling of what was given to us freely to care for and tend to is nearly over because the garden is perishing due to bad care of the ones with dominion.
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Date: September 28, 2019 at 14:04:20 From: Alan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Have you a source to support your claim?
At September 28, 2019 at 12:38:08, David Fenton wrote:
The irony of this plastic problem is that it was the enviromentalists that pushed for plastic bags and packaging to save the trees for the excessive use of paper grocery bags and cardboard packaging years ago..At least paper bags would break down not like the plastic bags they were replaced with..Somewhat of a "catch 22" scenario...
Date: September 28, 2019 at 15:23:55 From: David Fenton, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Source ?...Ya its called "real life experience"..When the grocery stores were switching to plastic bags they were doing it under the "save the trees" banner in Canada ..People didnt like the bags "they werent so great for heavy stuff,so they needed a prop to encourage it and used the enviromentalists campaign against strip logging and deforestation...I remember the outcry of people over the use of paper products and how the earth was being "stripped of trees for paper" and Amazon deforestation protests as well as the stores promoting the bags to save trees...They used it as well to promote the milk in a plastic bag idea as well...
Date: September 30, 2019 at 14:16:09 From: Awen, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
All I remember in real life were people wanting things that were waterproof, not dissolving because it inconvenienced them when it fell through the sacks. They also wanted the convenience of handles.
Never once heard anything about saving the trees, and there were a lot of protests about the environmental impact of plastic during the switch over.
Canadian propaganda must've been....interesting....back in the day.
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Date: September 28, 2019 at 16:56:02 From: Alan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
"When the grocery stores were switching to plastic bags they were doing it under the "save the trees" banner in Canada "
So you haven't a source to back up your claim just what think you remember? Once again It'd be brilliant if you can find a link.
I recall when I was working in a supermarket as a student in the early 80s there were small paper pages at the tills and plastic bags just coming in which were very cheap - also there were cardboard boxes put out by the shelf-stackers for customers but they took up space near the tills, compared to the compactness of placcy bags, and looked messy. I can't recall any environmental concerns pushing for the reasons you state for the greater use of plastics. In fact all the info I can find (and linked to) is that the cheaper and better comparable utility of plastic bags i.e profit margin seemed to be the significant factors behind the widespread introduction of plastic bags and packaging.
Is this what you are remembering or the similar kind of thing? Sure it wasn't industry doing the deceptice promoting rather than enviromentalist campaigning per se.
In 1971, Keep America Beautiful, an anti-litter organization formed by beverage and packaging companies, including PepsiCo, Coca-Cola, and Phillip Morris, teamed up with the Ad Council to create the now-infamous “Crying Indian” ad. Although the “Indian” who tears up when he sees a bag of litter thrown on the ground was really an Italian-American actor with a feather stuck in his hair, the ad’s sneakier deception was that its expression of concern about pollution was brought to the airwaves by many of the same companies that produced the pollution. Even as their ad was inducing guilt in viewers for spreading trash, Keep America Beautiful’s members were fighting legislation that could have done much to address the problem.
What makes this all the more insidious is that these TV spots and other ads were presented as public service announcements — and thus appeared to be politically neutral — but, in fact, served the industry agenda,” said historian Finis Dunaway, who lays out the story of Keep America Beautiful’s PR efforts in “Seeing Green: The Use and Abuse of Environmental Images.” “It was propaganda that did not appear propagandistic. It also shielded corporate polluters from blame by shifting responsibility onto individuals.”
Date: September 29, 2019 at 14:47:29 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
ta, Lol, asks the man who uses Roundup in his garden.
I'm not the one saying "how dare you"! while big finance, big oil, tote lil Greta around backing her all the way, demanding taxes on the People just getting by, forcing this IPCC, while negating their own messes with carbon credits, etc. Plastic is toxic. I am at least using less and less day by day. And often refuse to buy plastic wrapped foods. Use glass jars for food storage, etc. Cotton bags for food shopping. And oh yes, I use electricity and gas to lite my home and keep it warm. So we don't freeze to death. I have been an environmental activist since I was 15/16. Often turning down jobs that pollute. Against going along with the herd mentality of buy buy consume endlessly. Always buying older used cars. Or biking to get to and from town/work.
Against Monsanto/Bayer, pesticides, insecticides. Don't use foil or toxic cooking pans, produced by DuPont/GM. Use waxed paper for food wrap. Working to raise awareness of all these things since a teenager myself. Mostly buy cotton or bamboo products for clothing or t.p. Boycott many companies. Didn't buy plastic disposal diapers but hand-washed the cotton ones. etc, etc.
Date: September 30, 2019 at 05:27:06 From: Alan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
"Plastic is toxic. I am at least using less and less day by day. And often (not always then!) refuse to buy plastic wrapped foods. Use glass jars for food storage, etc. Cotton bags for food shopping. And oh yes, I use electricity and gas to lite my home and keep it warm... Always buying older used cars."
Look around you at your computer for instance - plastics
And what do yours cars pump out along with the byproducts of what it takes to power your home!
Hypocrite - and threatened by a 16 year old girl. Only you are perfect we get it!
Date: September 30, 2019 at 12:17:43 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
As mentioned to Eve, I am not the one demanding taxes from the poor countries while I continue to use these products and phasing them out. Yes, plastics are toxic. I can say this and still be using them, while I protest plastics should be removed and replaced with more hemp or biodegradables. I did not get into the pubic forum being supported by those who produce them or be given ways to travel to carry the message while being backed by those who are producing them. What is so hard about understanding my post? I do not buy into the so called sustainable products such as wind or solar and telling people these are renewable or sustainable. They are not. I did not sail on a boat and try to make people believe the boat was lesser of two evils-pretending solar or wind will be the answer to our problems, when I know they are not.
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Date: September 29, 2019 at 14:59:22 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
You are being hypocritical of others and so what's the diff? I don't see it.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 15:16:18 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
BTW Greta was not saying how dare you to you per se as I understand it the world leaders whom you accuse of certain taxing things so what's your real biff? She was traveling when the image was taken and traveling like a visit in med center or hospital it's not possible without plastic but it is possible to travel not to indulge in consuming the flesh other sentient souls. But how dare she do so? smack her quick for thou are perfect...or is it Greta reminds others of their own shortcomings and lack of care for home planet? I would say most likely. Noel Musk is making way to go back to Mars, you may be interested.
When the Lord comes to execute the righteous judgement for lack of care and inconsideration of Creation ...Greta will look like mild and meek by comparison. .
Date: September 29, 2019 at 15:36:32 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Yes, she was saying How dare you to the BIG polluters-you know, those who are paying for her trips around the world- she should be screaming at them and refuse their so-called help. The ones giving her rides on trains, rides on boats, that are not really GREEN. They are hiding behind Greta pretending they are changing their ways. But don't worry, "they'll be watching you." Just like China is doing to their own citizens and lil children. And if you don't measure up and get good citizen credits, you become an enemy of the state and will discard you. You won't be able to live here-buy things, get a car, buy food. Elon Musk should go to Mars with all his ideas of AI. All of the Big tech junkies need to go to Mars. Along with those who promote/demand a clean Earth while buying carbon credits to make excuses for themselves while taking money from Poor People/Countries and demanding that unsustainable 'sustainables' be the saviors of the day, making profits from them as they too pollute the Earth and Creatures, while the world dies.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 15:41:24 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
I don't promote that nor knowingly partake. My diet has been changing over the years based upon knowledge of that kind of treatment so just settle down. I was vegetarian for a while and going back to that.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 15:45:37 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
What happened to your pet chickens?
And if you know how bad animal agriculture is why diss Greta and even mention her vegan diet you could have left that out and made your point but you included it as if you were insulted by her choice of food.
When you get back to being vegetarian then let us know, otherwise till then your "environmentalism" self proclamations fall short.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 16:24:02 From: pamela, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
What happened to my pet chickens in N Idaho? I gave them to a person to take care of. I couldn't bring them with me. They laid eggs for people to eat. I used to sell them at the health food store. Best eggs ever.
I go days without eating meat. And when it is, its grass fed and treated humanely as possible. Or chickens or fish treated with kindness as possible. If you hadn't noticed I was born into a fallen world and so were you. Change doesn't come easy and when I do go all vegetarian you will be the last to know. I didn't like the fact she was openly using plastic products while promoting a certain lifestyle. While riding in a boat that was not sustainable or green. While taking money from those who wanted to promote taxing the poor of the world. And how dare you wish me warmth in these cold days that I use gas to heat my home, when all you really want is for me to just die. Your kind of environmentalism falls way short of compassion.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 16:30:06 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
I used to go days without eating dead animal flesh with souls also but I came to the point I stopped totally you can too. My kind of environmentalism IS compassionate and food for the benevolent spirits.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 16:40:23 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Oh and I really do wish you and your kitty friend well, what you say is not true because I want well being for all species and for their souls and that they should not suffer any infirmity it's why I choose the vegan lifestyle of Genesis 1:29 as is peace and keeps the natural order of creation.
I remind you that you began this discussion and I felt a word smack with your comment about vegan diet, and I was not sure at first how you intended it totally.... But now I know and responded accordingly and not out of line as if I don't care about you I say because I do care and Sunny needs someone to take care of him after all why would I wish you to be cold. You just turned away someone who really does care. I feel sad for you know pamela, really sad.
Bottom line you are not really upset with me, but with yourself whether you admit it or not.
Date: September 29, 2019 at 16:42:32 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
p.s.
Why I encourage you to become vegan because I care.... even if it feels ouchy to you it's for your own well being and warmth of heart. It's a common reaction though the denial so I understand more than you realize.
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Date: September 28, 2019 at 21:11:29 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
That's the way this world is, but at least she is doing not eating a sentient being with a soul.
I live in B.C..This province is packed with enviromentalists.Forestry at one time was one of our prime resources..Slash clearing became a major issue..Protestors were chaining themselves to trees or logging equipment,blocking roads and vandalising equiment...Clayquot Sound became a major issue here right around the same time as the plastic bags came on the scene..Marketing competition took advantage of the situation... Seems like a few others remember the same marketing at the link
Which ties in with this - plastics funnily enough was heavily promoted by the plastics industry! Not by any proto Greenpeace ;-)
Also underlying the boom in plastics was a powerful industry and lobby group, the Society for Plastic Industries (SPI).
Based on this, SPI concluded that synthetics had to be aggressively marketed through sophisticated advertising and “education” campaigns.
When synthetics production surged after WWII, demands on coal for benzene shot up as never before. But suppliers could not keep pace, so the federal government stepped in—yet again—by providing generous subsidies in the early 1950s to companies like Standard Oil to build petroleum-derived benzene plants. By the 1970s, these oil-based supply lines provided a wellspring for ever-more plastic.
Amidst huge lines at the gas pump and surging oil prices, the first polyethylene terephthalate (PET) disposable soda bottle was introduced in 1975. Made from petrochemicals—and invented by DuPont’s Daniel C. Wyeth of the famous family of painters—this new disposable resin illustrated the irrational wastefulness of the mass production system. Ubiquitous today, the PET bottle (used most commonly for soda and water) facilitated the beverage industry’s switch from refillable glass to single-use containers. In the past, thick glass reusables were returned to the store by the consumer for a deposit, trucked back to the bottling plant, washed and refilled. In contrast, after each disposable container was used only once it was discarded. The profit potential with throwaways was staggering; for every reusable bottle there could be anywhere from twenty to forty single-use containers consumed and permanently trashed. And since the cost for packaging was passed on to the consumer, the drink makers only stood to gain.
Getting rid of refillables also allowed the beverage industry to undergo massive consolidation. Without being tethered to local bottling plants, the disposable made possible one-way distribution from centralized regional hubs. By the late 1980s, almost all refillable soda (and milk) bottles were out of commission, replaced in many cases with the plastic throwaway. Likewise, switching to polymers facilitated the restructuring of countless other industries, leading to shuttered factories and outsourced jobs.
As resins piled up in garbage cans across the country, public cries for mandated recycling and deposit laws intensified. And, in 1988, the nimble SPI intervened. The industry group adopted the chasing arrow recycling symbol, widely embraced by the ecology movement. In this “greenwashing” maneuver, SPI altered the image slightly by inserting numerals in its center, assigning various polymers grades 1 through 7, which were then stamped onto plastic packaging. SPI successfully promoted this to state governments as a “coding system,” which was adopted in lieu of restrictions like bans, deposit laws, and mandatory recycling standards.
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Date: September 28, 2019 at 16:37:46 From: chatillion, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Date: September 28, 2019 at 22:08:06 From: Teresa N Cal, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Yes I remember the switch to plastic bags to save the trees. I don't understand how folks can forget that. Same as the save the spotted owl and stop logging. The last 2 years they have been killing spotted owls to save another owl. Nutso.
Date: September 28, 2019 at 22:47:00 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
I did not forget, I was growing up and we had few shops when in the 70's where I lived, I mostly only recall the grocery store and paper bags and shopping for school clothes once a year and I don't remember what kind of sacks were used for that, but maybe plastic...probably. Where I was it was rural and we had one channel with rabbit ears so I don't remember hearing any fuss over plastic vs. paper but they probably slipped it in under our nose where I was....Cable did not come for me till around 1982 and I remember clean fresh mountain air and I miss it so...but I don't miss cable...after having it for years and 300 channels with nothing on I decided never again in 2004.
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Date: September 28, 2019 at 15:35:27 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
That's what happens when sheeple follow sheeple or lean on their own understanding.
Date: September 28, 2019 at 14:35:46 From: Alan, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
1994 - PLASTIC VERSUS PAPER
"Supermarkets usually prefer plastic bags because they're less expensive - 1,000 paper sacks cost $30 while the same number of plastic sacks cost $26 to $28. At each D'Agostino supermarket - where clerks are instructed to use plastic bags unless customers request paper ones - 300,000 plastic bags are packed in a week, according to Mary Moore, director of consumer affairs for the chain, which has 14 of its 18 units in Manhattan. Four dollars here and four dollars there, she said, ''adds up quickly.''
ExxonMobile was responsible for introducing the plastic shopping bag to the U.S., and the bag debuted in American grocery store checkout lines by the late 1970s.
"Some customers become real irate and start shouting if they can't get the kind of bag they want," a clerk at a Los Angeles Vons told the paper back then. "It's amazing how they let such a little thing get them so upset. Years ago, they didn't even have a choice."
But, as the war over customer bag preferences raged on, the plastic bag was winning the hearts and minds of businesses – by appealing to their bottom line. Plastic bags are simply much cheaper for stores to purchase than paper bags, which can cost up to four times what a plastic bag does. They’re also waterproof and stronger than paper bags – they can carry 1,000 times their own weight.
By the end of 1985, 75 percent of U.S. grocery stores carried plastic bags in addition to paper ones, and today, plastic bags have secured more than 80 percent of the grocery and convenience store market.
Date: September 28, 2019 at 12:16:57 From: Sunshine, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
Geez, I recycle so diligently, and it turns out not all of it going to recycling plants. Well, that's not good. I am also very concerned about the plastic 'island' floating in the Pacific. Must kill so much marine life. Thanks for posting this Eve. Very discouraging, isn't it ?
Date: September 28, 2019 at 15:40:09 From: Eve, [DNS_Address] Subject: Re: We're Buying Into a Giant Lie About Plastic
I know it is disheartening but I still keep striving and trying to move forward because in the spirit realm it matters and I know this is truethere's always hope..~🕊~..