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Date: September 25, 2019 at 08:07:17
From: long timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: another casualty of climate change

URL: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/other/mont-blanc-glacier-could-collapse-experts-warn/ar-AAHOSxY?li=BBnbcA1


and yet another casualty of global climate change -
which deniers keep saying isn't happening.....


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16484


Date: September 25, 2019 at 08:52:35
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: no, you are on the wrong track


Hi long timer,

perhaps next time you do some research yourself before reporting
unsubstantiated claims.

According to this webpage from the Swiss seismological service
http://seismo.ethz.ch/en/earthquakes/switzerland/last-90-days/
within the past 90 days about 50 small and very shallow, typically
1 to 3 km deep, earthquakes occurred on Courmayeur or Chamonix
ground near the glacier that supposedly wants to break off.

Even small quakes release enough energy to disturb an unstable
glacier, especially if they are that shallow.

This is the predominant recent location of the shallow quakes.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/?mlat=45.88&mlon=7.01
The glacier is 5 km southwest from them.

They show absolutely no proof whatsoever that global heating is
causing the glacier to collapse. It is a claim and nothing more.

I find it appalling that the mayor of the town and other authorities
do not even consider the possibility that other forces way beyond
air temperature may be at work.

It won't be long before the sudden physical appearance of newborn
humans will be considered an immediate result of climate change.

sequoia


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Date: September 25, 2019 at 14:14:35
From: long timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: no, you are on the wrong track


so according to you, the earthquakes are causing the
ice to melt??? and you call me crazy?


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Date: September 25, 2019 at 14:52:16
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: no, you are on the wrong track


Hi long timer,

the earthquakes are disturbing the unstable glacier.

Do you have difficulty reading or what?

sequoia


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16488


Date: September 26, 2019 at 17:29:09
From: long timer, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: no, you are on the wrong track


no, but you do

from the actual article "The glacier, in the Glarus
Alps, has shrunk to a tiny fraction of its original
size.

Scientists say it has lost at least 80% of its volume
just since 2006, a trend accelerated by rising global
temperatures."


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Date: September 27, 2019 at 03:00:53
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: again: you are on the wrong track


Hi long timer,

you seem incapabable of distinguishing vibrations caused by
earthquakes disturbing a glacier from the shrinking of the glacier.

Perhaps it is a result of your being brainwashed by the climate
warmers which disguise their misleading facts by calling
themselves climate changers. And anyone who disagrees with
their nanowitted picothruths they label climate deniers which is
also 100% wrong and an insult to human intelligence.

No one that I am aware of is claiming that the climate on our
planet does not change. Climate change has been taking place
since earth exists. There is nothing new about it.

The last ice age can be viewed as a super glacier. That glacier,
covering large parts of the northern hemisphere grew to its
maximum size without any automobiles, trucks, airplanes,
megaships polluting the atmosphere. Then, still thousands of years
ago, it began to retreat and arrived at its current, hugely
diminished extent as a result of an ever-changing climate. But to
my knowledge there was no significant CO2 contribution from
human activities at the time.

Today the climate fear mongers are using brainwashing techniques
to destroy anything which resembles real open discussion about
changes occurring on our planet.

Yesterday I noticed another little quake in Courmayeur, this time
south of the instable glacier.

If I were the mayor of that town I would make sure that any and all
precautions have been taken to maximize the earthquake safety of
any and all buildings in my town. Yet, apparently his scientist
advisers don't even look at the current earthquake maps because
they are all concerning themselves entirely with climate change
driven by humans.

I repeat here my assertion that if this climate craziness continues a
point in time will be reached, sooner rather than later, when the
sudden appearance of human newborns in our physical world will
be ascribed to climate change driven by CO2.

Greta darling is a psychologically grossly misused child without
any understanding of relationships between dozens of factors
influencing terrestrial climate. She is emotionally disturbed and
emotionally abused by the global climate fear monger society.
Who the abusers are I don't know. But there must be many.

Many human caused factors which may very well change the
climate conditions on earth are entirely excluded from discussion
because they are big money generators or serve some other
ungood agenda. One of those factors is electromagnetic waves
from zillions of antenna installations, high voltage and low voltage
power lines, radio and radar towers, HAARP like apparatus,
satellite beamings.

If you want to cook your brain quickly just go near a big cell tower,
enjoy the warmth of their electromagnetic emissions and the
resonance effects in your own living cells.

As soon as the antenna elements are powered up the micro
climate in the vicinity of such installations changes because they
emit electromagnetic energy in substantial amounts.

The climate fear monger society appears to resist all discussion
about life threatening electromagnetic energies spread all over the
globe in proportions which have never before been present on this
planet and will affect all life on earth.

sequoia


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16485


Date: September 25, 2019 at 10:48:25
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: no, you are on the wrong track


At September 25, 2019 at 08:52:35, sequoia wrote:

perhaps next time you do some research yourself before reporting
unsubstantiated claims.



Climate Change in the Alps

https://wwf.panda.org/knowledge_hub/where_we_work/alps/problems/climate_change/

Over the last century, global warming has caused all Alpine glaciers to recede. In 2006, the volume of water stored as ice
was still almost 10% greater than that present as liquid, but the margin is continuing to narrow.

Glacier recession has led to an upward migration of Alpine plants at a rate of 0.5 - 4 m per decade. In the long run, lowland
plants will displace Alpine species to ever-higher altitudes until they simply have nowhere to go at all, effectively forcing
them into extinction.



Climate change: why the Alps are particularly affected

https://www.cipra.org/en/cipra/international/projects/completed/cc-alps/about/climate-change-alps

Temperatures in the Alps have risen by just under 2°C over the past 120 years, almost twice as much as the global average.
And they are set to rise even more. Researchers are predicting a further 2°C increase over the next forty years. At first
glance that might not appear particularly dramatic. But all it takes is a change of a few degrees to significantly affect the
climate.


CLIMATE CHANGE AND ITS IMPACTS IN THE ALPS

https://creamontblanc.org/en/climate-change-and-its-impacts-alps

Climate change is readily observable in the Alps. Mountainous regions and the species that inhabit them are dependent on
and defined by climatic conditions that vary along elevation gradients. As a result, changes in climatic parameters have a
strong impact on both the physical environment and the living world.


Climate change is melting the French Alps, say mountaineers

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/24/climate-change-is-melting-the-french-alps-say-mountaineers

Permafrost ‘cement’ is evaporating, making rocks unstable and prone to collapse with many trails now deemed too
dangerous to use


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