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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called claim to
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This is my reply to the overly long thread, and my answer to Alan's reply to my posts in regards to the 5G matter and various links I gave. All environmental related. Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max\'s so called claim to flat earth follies. 1. Bio Dr. Graham S. Downing is a consultant in Neuro-musculoskeletal & Functional Medicine. He graduated from King s College London University where he trained in the clinical sciences and molecular biology and attended the Randall Institute as a research student whilst still under the Directorship of Dr Wilkins, Nobel prize winner for his co-discovery of DNA; and European Institute of Health and Medical Sciences, Surrey University where he received an MSc(that is a Master of Science) with a specialist area of research in psychoneuroimmunology in the clinical practice. Dr. Downing was invited to read for a Ph.D at Oxford s leading research institute, Sir William Dunn School of Pathology but decided on a clinical career instead. He is one of only two doctors in Europe that have received training at consultant level in diagnosis and treatment of internal medical disorders at the Texas Chiropractic College, USA; and advanced Wilderness medicine. His specialist fields are neuro-musculoskeletal & functional Medicine (with a focus on fertility, endocrinology, infection and gastro-intestinal problems). He has produced science and clinical reports since February 1993 and medico-legal reports since April 2010 as an expert witness. He is currently President and Director of Clinical Education for a European organization that sets standards of clinical proficiency and trains healthcare providers, including medical doctors, chiropractors, osteopaths, physiotherapists, herbalists, homoeopaths, nutritionist, functional medicine doctors and other health disciplines to consultant level. https://ianrcrane.com/av8-dr-graham-downing-2 My reply: Many people rely on homeopaths, nutritionists, chiropractors, medical doctors , etc to gain better health and are not considered woo doctors except by yourself and others who do not look into the benefits of such but are recognized by the medical profession to be of value. While it is difficult to trace his CV,(credentials) that would take some more verification and digging and will supply it later when I have more time. But your summation that because you cannot find it in your search therefore it must be a scam, does not make it so nor does your scoffing at some of his bio as woo, does not make it so either. 2. In the video you showed((only one you came up with and already watched it prior)) starting around 1:51 mark https://youtu.be/eMdx6F0kNJM?t=111 It is Rob Skiba's video - and recorded conversation with Max Igan, wherein he does a so called test to try to find what some are calling proof of flat earth, but you will notice Max doesn't make that claim, he only says, he doesn't know what to make of it. It is Skiba's video which tries to show, because Igan does a test , it somehow proves Skiba's case, which it clearly does not, and there are no other vids where Igan claims flat earth. Nor does he do this in Skiba's video. 3. If you watched the whole 2 video's by Scotties Tech info; Links mentioned in the vid: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355 1. Wi-Fi is an important threat to human health https://www.sciencedirect.com/science... 2. Various, including: 5G Wireless Technology: Is 5G Harmful to Our Health? https://www.saferemr.com/2017/09/5g-w... https://www.saferemr.com/2017/09/5g-wireless-technology-is-5g-harmful-to.html He reads the studies, and talks allot more than just keeping one's head away from the phone. SO you get a D- in your studies and research of the links I provided for your effort to debunk the credibility of the person presenting the case against 5G and or the links to scientific studies, peer reviewed, which you simply ignore the content of the research. |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called claim...
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Pam you get an F and that's being generous. These experts you gullibly believe are if you put on your CV 'brain surgeon' based on your short stint working as a hospital orderly. [[["but are recognized by the medical profession to be of value. " Keep up Pam... “There is no robust evidence to support homeopathy which is at best a placebo and a misuse of scarce NHS funds." “Homeopathy is based on implausible assumptions and the most reliable evidence fails to show that it works beyond a placebo effect. It can cause severe harm when used as an alternative to effective treatments,” said Edzard Ernst, emeritus professor of complementary medicine at the University of Exeter. “Therefore, it is high time that the NHS stops funding it and instead employs our scarce resources on treatments that are backed by sound science.” https://www.england.nhs.uk/2018/06/nhs-england-welcomes-homeopathy-court-ruling/ https://www.nursingtimes.net/news/policies-and-guidance/homeopathy-no-longer-available-on-nhs-after-ccg- cuts-service/7025532.article https://www.theguardian.com/lifeandstyle/2017/jul/21/a-misuse-of-scarce-funds-nhs-to-end-prescription-of- homeopathic-remedies |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
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Minimizing my work in the health field taking care of the disabled and elderly - in hospital and homes does not become you. Anyone with half a brain can read, research and find the truth of things given it is available to study from peer reviewed scientific studies which you keep avoiding I made refs and links to. Doesn't make you look so good. Taking one example of this, homeopathic, and linking to, doesn't include the other studies done, as I mentioned, shows your lack of concern and inclusion. Keep it up Nasirah. Your insincerity is lacking greatly. |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
URL: How to Spot Real and Fake News - Critically Appraising Information
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Pam - Your lack of educational attainment hinders your abilities to rationally argue / bring anything of value to the table at a fundamental level Not sure when you left education but it seems you never got to degree level as you let your emotions rule over fact with your immediate fallback to dubous sources (if used at all) You might find this basic primer for children (as taught now to school children as a useful antidote/ tool) useful in you research and when reading and repeating what you find on the internet (see link) as on the 40'/50s when you were at school information was limited to books a long time before wootube videos and the free-for-all interweb. Pamela rushes to work with her cell phone in one hand and a coffee in the other. Scrolling through her social media feed, she's stopped in her tracks by the news that her company is about to be bought out by its biggest rival. What Is Fake News? There are two kinds of fake news: Stories that aren't true. These are deliberately invented stories designed to make people believe something false, to buy a certain product, or to visit a certain website. Stories that have some truth, but aren't 100 percent accurate. For example, a politician attends a conference, but a news story reports that he or she was there to criticize policy rather than to support it. This kind of fake news is biased, and aims to convince readers of a certain political or ideological viewpoint. Stories like this can also be down to mistakes or "urban myths." Note: To confuse matters further, there are also people who claim that factually accurate stories are fake news, just because they don't agree with them or find them uncomfortable. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
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lol keep dreamin' bud, you have no idea. No to cell phone in hand or drinking coffee while driving or scrolling thru social media. I've done more research reading books/articles before and after the internet. I spent 22 years of my life in the health field. I was also reading novels before most children at 8 years old. No Dick and Jane. Myself and another school were sent to another room to read more advance books. But that's besides the point. You obviously do not care about searching the facts. You avoid the research done by scientists. Avoid being civil. So we're done here on whose woo woo and whose not. I give people/posters/readers here the benefit they can and will do their own research. Doesn't take a brain surgeon. Your lack of decency, sincerity and honestly are still showing. |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
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"I spent 22 years of my life in the health field." "disabled and elderly" Cutting edge medical stuff Pam - now you've become one yourself I suggest you look after yourself as best you can with your numerous aches & pains So in amongst that you failed to mention your formal educational attainments apart from being an experenced bum wipper and wootube reseacher extraordinaire. "research done by scientists" So far all I've seen is you seeking and referring to pseudo-science of dubious qualaity involved with flat earth, and alternative health conspircacy promoting theorists - look up argument from authority fallacy and yet you come up with the same inherently worthless sources, that if you'd studied when younger would have been made aware of and steered accordingly - or possubly your were but refused remedial guidance. due to arrogance. Hence subsequently you were only qualified for basic care jobs, with no progression or ambition. Hence the F as you show neither a capacity to learn due to lack of any attainment or demonstrable critical thinking skills - just a mind acting as a sponge for woo due to neurotic self-absorption. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
URL: https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0013935118300355
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You will hope you have a good bum wiper that I was when you get too old to do it yourself. I did much more than that in my field, but since you really do not care, will not supply you any more info since you are so disrespectful of human beings in general. You have not once stated your education/studies of higher learning, even when you used to post as Nasirah. Like I mentioned, it doesn't matter what I did for 22 years of caring for handicapped and elderly. You seem to be stuck on that part. And avoiding what I already posted of the scientific papers posted at Scotties link. I am in process of contacting those who host Dr Downing and get more verifying info from them as well as try to contact King's University and the other schooling he claims. Did you do this yourself? No, you did not. Again, doesn't take a brain surgeon to read and understand peer reviewed. As I see Eve's post, she probably would have passed the subject until you made it your troll duty to continue on with trying to debunk and just make it more obvious you are still avoiding the science while also trying to slander me. here it is again - you keep on avoiding these. and this one too you avoid also posted by Scotties posts. https://www.saferemr.com/2017/09/5g-wireless-technology-is-5g-harmful-to.html |
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From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
URL: Dr Graham Downing DEBFM DEBMM DABCI(Cand) MSc BSc(Hons) FFHprt2(Advanced
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I suggest you investigate this part of his career closely as it seems to be when for some reason he dropped out (note he din't complete PhD or possibly even commence studies at Oxford) and jumped to US to immerse himself in woo to become according to his CV a 'coaching marketing consultant' chiropractic 'doctor' & study drugs (mind expanding[?]} to impress gullible folk. "Dr. Downing was invited to learn for a Ph.D at Oxford’s main analysis institute, Sir William Dunn School of Pathology however selected a medical profession as an alternative. He is one among solely two docs in Europe which have acquired coaching at marketing consultant degree in analysis and remedy of inner medical issues on the Texas Chiropractic College, USA; and superior Wilderness drugs." From this (if he even attended): Sir William Dunn School of Pathology, Oxford  To this: Texas Chiropractic College "Great place to become a doctor when you can't get into medical school."  |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
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I did some more searching and what you show as the college looks pretty shabby indeed. But that is only one building of the entire campus. I know they went thru major flooding during/after hurricane Harvey in 2017. My eldest son who is an IT specialist was working there in the Houston area after the flooding events and will attest to that. heres link to the entire campus which includes the Moody Heath Center. http://www.moodyhealthcenter.com/ and link above shows the video of entire campus. I am contacting a friend of mine, who is a Professor at Texas Tech University, and hopefully he can verify the other schooling Dr Downing has on his alleged credentials. Supposed graduated at Kings University and the other mentions. |
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From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Dr Graham Downing, Scotties Documents and Max's so called...
| Your sincerity is lacking greatly. Your insincerity is showing. |
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