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Date: October 23, 2018 at 22:36:27
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no return

URL: https://bigthink.com/politics-current-affairs/scary-un-climate-change-report?rebelltitem=4#rebelltitem4



the report pdf:

http://report.ipcc.ch/sr15/pdf/sr15_headline_statements.pdf

On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no return
Most of us will still be alive then. Maybe.
BRANDON A. WEBER
09 October, 2018

- It's statistically possible to make enough changes to stave it off, but politically it looks unlikely if
attitudes at the top do not change.

- We're already seeing effects from a 1-degree (C) change.
What can we do? There are a few things...

- The problem, as I see it, is that there isn't the political will to make the serious changes we need to in
order to stave this off.

Stave what off, you ask?

It's the point—an increase of 1.5 degrees C or 2.7 degrees F—at which the things that we take for granted,
like arctic ice and even the ability to live anywhere near the equator, disappear. The UN Intergovernmental
Panel on Climate Change (IPCC) just issued a report on this that is, well, terrifying.

The report is written by 91 authors and 40 review editors, and it features 133 contributing authors, 6,000
scientific references, and was subject to over 42,000 expert and government review comments before
publication.

We're two-thirds of the way there now, and in 12 years, that is the tipping point at which we cannot affect
anything anymore. In other words, that's when it goes beyond a 1.5 degree increase in global average
temperatures and the "feedback loop" that is the Earth will deteriorate to a point where we will have no
way to stop the process.

In fact, with the course we are currently on, it's going to be double that temperature; we've already seen
an increase of 1 degree since pre-industrialization, and there's really nothing slowing it down.

"The window on keeping global warming below 1.5 degrees C is closing rapidly and the current emissions
pledges made by signatories to the Paris Agreement do not add up to us achieving that goal," stated
Andrew King, a climate science expert at the University of Melbourne.


The last time I researched this, 2050 was the year that they pegged. Moving that up by 20 years—
effectively, the same as moving the atomic scientists' Doomsday Clock ahead by two minutes—makes it
seem all that more pressing.

But given the political climate of the world right now, it looks extremely unlikely that we'll do anything
about it.

So is it time to invest in beachfront property in Antarctica?

Since 99% of us can't do that, here are some ideas on what you can do, from the UN report.

The report says there must be rapid and significant changes in four big global systems: Energy, land use,
cities, and industry. But it adds that the world cannot meet its target without changes by individuals,
urging people to:

1. Buy less meat, milk, cheese and butter ~(or none)~ and more locally sourced, seasonal food—
and throw less of it away...
2. Drive electric cars, but walk or cycle short distances
3. Take trains and buses instead of planes
4. Use videoconferencing instead of business travel
5. Use a washing line instead of a tumble dryer
6. Thoroughly insulate homes
7. Demand low carbon in every consumer product.



~(more at link above with visuals and embedded links)~





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Date: October 27, 2018 at 16:17:04
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no...





- Ignorance is the root of all evil.

- My people perish for lack of knowledge.


- But if they do not listen, they perish by the sword
and die without knowledge.


- He dies for lack of discipline,
and because of his great folly he is led astray. -


- The lips of the righteous feed many,
but fools die for lack of sense.



- My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge;
because you have rejected knowledge,
I reject you from being a priest to me.
And since you have forgotten the law of your God,
I also will forget your children.



- Who has woe? Who has sorrow? Who has strife? Who has
complaining? Who has wounds without cause? Who has redness
of eyes? Those who tarry long over wine; those who go to try
mixed wine. Do not look at wine when it is red, when it sparkles in
the cup and goes down smoothly. In the end it bites like a serpent
and stings like an adder. Your eyes will see strange things, and
your heart utter perverse things. ...



- Be sober-minded; be watchful. Your adversary the devil
prowls around like a roaring lion, seeking someone to devour.




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Date: October 28, 2018 at 01:17:28
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no...


R-E-L-A-X, you'll be dead by then.


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 02:40:26
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no...





No worries Logan about me my soul will live on in the forevers
loverly land...but I am not so sure about yours.


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 02:58:50
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no...





p.s.

btw Logan, your message was in response to scripture I shared
from this book you profess to believe in...I guess you don't read it
often if at all....Because your comment imo is not reflective of
respect for the Almighty.

You may want to examine yourself in that regard as I can assure
you God knows what you just thought about someone who is a
devoted and obedient daughter.

I don't see myself meeting you in the hereafter the way you are
now. I don't want to either.


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Date: October 29, 2018 at 01:47:39
From: Logan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no...


WHAT are you talking about??? My post is CLEARLY in
response to your 12 year "warning". Get a grip!


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Date: October 27, 2018 at 11:34:35
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Solar minimum


Hi Eve, La Man, Sheila,

I value everyone's comment but I disagree with some of Eve's and
Sheila's conclusions.

The "warming climate alarmists" seem to successfully operate in a
"create fear ---> harvest research funding ---> create more fear ---
> harvest forced CO2 taxes" etc etc etc. Climate models which do
not take into account radiative effects from the sun, our main
astrophysical life force and supplier of light and warmth, are
nothing but utterly bad(istic) science and: worthless.

La Man'ś comment that climate models fail to include solar effects
is quite valid in my opinion. And he should not be yelled at for
expressing a well-substantiated criticism.

Eve's comment (simplified here) that humans are destroying their
planet by way of pollution, excessive consumption and/or
complete destruction of natural resources, garbage of all sorts, is
equally valid. However, the destructive environmental behavior of
many earthlings (who pray to money, power and societal status
much more than to their creator or nature) does not require climate
warming as a prerequisite nor does the bad behavior of earthlings
automatically lead to an overall warming of our planet.

The climate models also fail to include variations of the earth's
orbit neither with respect to the sun nor with respect to the planets
or the moon.

I would like to point out that a discussion on (ideally and hopefully)
verifiable data may provide some insight.

As an example: in the following article you can find data which
point to a declining solar activity and consequential cooling
towards 19th century temperatures. One of the proposed reasons
for cooling is increased albedo (reflectance of sunlight) as a result
of increased cloud cover which in turn is a result of increased
cosmic ray intensity providing more water condensation.

https://www.sott.net/article/390583-Grand-solar-minimum-Data-
shows-this-is-the-lowest-cycle-since-records-began

https://www.sott.net/image/s23/477423/full/clip_image002.jpg
The F10.7 flux is considered to be the most accurate measure of
solar activity. The solar cycles are numbered. Solar Cycle 24 has
about two years to go before the month of minimum. To date the
F10.7 flux has had a floor of 64.

spawx.nwra.com/spawx/f10.html
The F10.7 index is a measure of the noise level generated by the
sun at a wavelength of 10.7 cm at the earth's orbit. The global
daily value of this index is measured at local noon at the Pentictin
Radio Observatory in Canada.

The North Atlantic temperature data from 2004 to 2018 point to a
significant cooling at the place of measurement.
https://www.sott.net/image/s23/477427/full/clip_image008.jpg

According to image008 the temperature data is from a segment
between 59N and 30 to 0 W. This is between points east of
Southern Greenland and east of Northern Scotland.
https://www.openstreetmap.org/search?query=59.0%20-
30.0#map=3/59.00/-30.00

More information can be found in the article

sequoia


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 12:21:04
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: oh well




I don't aim to be a people pleaser of conform to this worlds
standards...I am aiming for a higher mark.

Agressive not.

Compassionate yes.

Believe it or not...in the end what you think of me does not matter
does it?


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 12:27:17
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: oh well....and...




If you cannot watch the clips I share I don't know why you bother
to respond as that is where my passion is and compassion to be a
voice for the voiceless...So like I said you pretend to think you
know what my intentions but miss the mark because you won't
see the animal holocaust hidden from your eyes.

If you want to talk about solar minimum start your own thread.

Thank you for understanding (?)
but you really don't want to understand where I am coming from it
seems.


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 13:39:55
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: oh well....and...


Hi Eve,

in the article you cite in your #1 post this is the headline:

"On global warming, we have 12 years left until the point of no
return"

This is fear-mongering based on faulty assessments which I would
not even call science because of highly prejudiced reasoning. Not
necessarily your reasoning but you cited that article not me.

I responded by bringing up the subject of solar minimum because
we earthlings should better not completely ignore solar effects
which, when taken into account, contradict the assertions (1) that
runaway global warming is already taking place (2) and that it is
caused by stupid humans and their even crazier pollution.

If you wanted to talk about the plight of 45 billion animals which
are "processed" in 2018 in a very non-biblical way to feed the
burger hungry, 138 animals for every American, all this in a
supposedly bible-conforming society then you should have chosen
a different headline describing your thoughts.

The plight of animals in America started a looooong time ago. It is
nothing new. When Native Indians lived in the prairies so did huge
herds of buffalo. They, both the Indians and the buffalo. were later
slaughtered by bible-carrying Europeans to the point of extinction
so that the money makers can implement their rule, install train
tracks, roads, cities, TV, radio and cellphone towers, and airports,
to the complete collapse of what used to be nature, a gigantic
paradise from the Atlantic to the Pacific shore.

Obviously, the entire world urgently needs another thought model,
or if you prefer, another heart model.

We could start by replacing
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walt_Disney_World_Resort
with a huge garden which is then cooperatively cultivated year-
round by Floridians and whoever wants to participate, in the
transformation of a lost paradise back into its natural state.

sequoia




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Date: October 28, 2018 at 18:08:01
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I know it started a long time ago...doh...




I keep trying to say I was there when it began.

Believe it or not.

I tell you truly that study is wrong in that there is less than 12 years and even may be this coming days given my incoming sensory and what I was told and have been shown by the
good spirit. The day of the great accounting will come when all is given back what was sent out and times up forever for the serpent, his tricks and his den of thieves who hate my
Heavenly Father and me, they just hate everything living basically.

If one is all good with the Almighty why would they receive any so called fear mongering at all? Does not compute to me. I don't see it as fear mongering as I come from a different
perspective as I walked out of the mindset of this world and am free. Besides that you and yours are not promised the next hour even or day, and so on. So at all times best to have
it right with the Great Accountant cause you never know. And then there is also if you recall the story of the Great Flood and warning did go out and it went unheeded except by
one. I was told it would be like the Days of Noah and I heard it and so it is. You just confirm that over and over as do others who refuse to hear.

The thing I am most concerned about it my soul and the true day of justice....part of that includes the care I have given to others and the care of the Earth it's called being faithful in
the least. How can anyone expect more if not faithful in the least? No one is caring about much and the ones that do and who are trying are so small though it's growing time is run
out it can't be turned around what has happened... I share because it matters on a soul level at the Day of the Great Accounting.

If you are afraid may you seek to perfect your love and do it quick you don't have time to waste and remember there is no fear in perfect love, perfect love casts out fear.

Yes It's an out of balance world that is causing climate change. I know I posted a study from an organization but the major reason was if you read it suggests
the food as number one thing to help which is why I posted what I did. I was just trying to reach folks who are stuck on man made studies as they
are supporting what I was told is the problem in the visitation from my Lord. Of course there is going to be denial it's the spirit that comes from what is
being consumed I realize that and it's what makes it so hard to share and so difficult for ears to hear and receive.

I put my own thought in parenthesis in this excerpt from the original article which is you see the number one reason for the problematic climate (see
below). That is what I agree with and you cannot change my mind because I was given to know from the highest power and you are not that. I used the
man made "study" summation to support what I was told as I want a better world to come for all I refuse to feel bad about that or be shamed for it.
However would I post a burdensome heavy worded in total summation about it? No. it's not about CO2 to me per se, it's about a world out of order, out of
balance and a lack of knowledge of the proper remedy as well as the spiritual understanding that such encompasses.


excerpt from article:

The report says there must be rapid and significant changes in four big global systems: Energy, land use,
cities, and industry. But it adds that the world cannot meet its target without changes by individuals,
urging people to:

1. Buy less meat, milk, cheese and butter ~(ornone)~ and more locally sourced, seasonal food—
and throw less of it away..


Yes I believe the earth and sky, planets, stars communicate and it moves through us as a receiver and we also send out energy as well. So look at the
message we are sending out to the universe...kill, kill, kill and kill some more and the bloodshed is deep though we may not see that is what we are walking
through in this world with the majority being unawares of contribution to that bloodshed. Many wonder why hate, fear, and violence is increasing...I don't.

I was for awhile not knowingly or purposely contributing to the unworthy cause of the animal ag industry which seeds other brands of this worlds industries
which feeds the dow. I even worked for these dark places in the past...ugh, major ugh. Now there is where I feel true shame not anything coming from you or
what anyone else says so much but the remembrance of my own actions of ignorance disgusts me.

I sense there are many out there like me who may read here but want to know even though it's a hard thing to receive I get it as I have been there and I want to encourage
those to keep it in your heart and keep trying, time is short as it matters on a soul level not just physical. Maybe it's not you sequoia so this is for them as it does not seem so
reading your responses. Even if there is not anyone reading this, that I send out a spirit of good intention to the universe does no harm. You may not like the way I say it but I am
not keen on what you send out either as I gotta deal with it on a the scale of massive multiples of you's, but thankfully I stand alone but on solid ground.

For myself I felt deceived and tricked by the man made industries that sell the bloodshed and beverages under the premise of happy hidden critters when their
suffering is anything but healthy and from from the spirit of the pit of hell. Certain industries keep the charade going and the particulars of their business hidden
so they can keep selling it to the masses which also fuels the so called medical/health industry and so on and so on. You just need to watch Earthlings but you won't.
It's frustrating trying to share this with you or mostly anyone which is why I have not until recently though I have known for 17 years. I have been on both sides of the fence
where the majority and even you are coming from one side. I think the grass is greener on my side, in fact I know it is having experienced both sides.

The paint on the walls of homes around this world weep with dead blood that is used for "color" that came from the slaughterhouses of hell on earth. The
polish on shoes made from cow skin too...kill the critters, drain the blood while they are still alive and crying till they are spent...Take that blood and paint it
back on the shoes. Walk that walk and talk I been there in those shoes and am in that world but trying not to be of it while hoping to be able todo more
someday to change it. Walk a mile in my shoes I walked in a lot of shoes probably ones somewhat like yours.

Then the cheeses have the enzymes of dead baby male calf's whom are taken away from their raped enslaved mothers at birth so the mothers can give
milk to adults of another species who don't need it....So the cheese laments also.

The glue, ugh the glue! It's awful.

Gee wonder why the earth groans in us? I know why and science does not explain the spirit of that nor does it seek to it's why I don't respect it much.
There is even milk in most potato chip brands. It's not necessary but for the ones who sell it to make a profit is all ...a profit by enslaving and exploiting
animals.

Sugar purchased is mostly filtered through bone char of animals slaughtered violently for to feed the masses...Only two brands I know of do not use animal
bone char and that's what I purchase. Thus the "Halloween" candy given out to children for the "celebration" laments in spirit greatly so it's truly gory but
this world perceives it as cute and fun for the most part. MAGA branded candy business it's not so great after all.

Then there's toothpaste, skin care, on and on and on and on and on...it's insane. This world is wallowing smothered in dead animal secretions and dead
animal skin and bones burning ...on the outside, on the inside. I have to endure it though I don't like it it affects me too so it's like the ones who don't want
it or want to partake of the suffering are forced to anyway on a lot of levels, it's like walking against a tidal wave. Try it and you can empathize then.

BTW I did not learn this I share by viewing Earthlings or any man made video but I studied it since I was woken in 2002 with revelations from heaven. With
guidance by the good spirit I came to understand and find what I was seeking.

I don't go out on the streets to share as I am so raw about it sometimes and the pain of killing which is happening hurts me to the core of my soul. Believe
it or not the way I word it and how I share...it's mild by comparison to the great accounting day when I am to walk through the blood. On that day I will be
enabled to help others who want help though they don't want it now or realize they need it. I have been given much so a lot is required of me....Any thing of
what you may think comes across as anger you have nothing to fear from me I can assure you nor does Mark or anyone I find it kind of disturbing you
receive it that way while at the same time I understand why. It's a strange place to be in I tell you truly.

What I exhibit is righteously contained and in the proper place in my heart...as my Lords was when he turned freed the animals being sold for slaughter in
my Father's house. For now I wait and do nothing more than what I share here and with a few others on occasion in passing at the grocery, etc. Otherwise I
remains standing in obedience to my Lord in the gap for the voiceless as well as those with a voice until the day comes for the One who give the true
accounting in all righteousness and justice. Soon.

I remain steadfast and will not budge sequoia and seems you will not either and I am not trying to make you receive anything you don't want to nor is it
open to debate with me. However you may start another thread on solar minimum and perhaps others who wish to debate the topic will join you but I doubt
that will go anywhere or change anything that truly matters.

You may carry on here if you choose with whomever in this thread... but I am not reading any more posts in this thread and it's brought me all the grief for
now... even try to share something that I know will help improve things on all levels.

One other thing you may not know is the reason mark engaged me conversation in this thread as he had an issue with a response I made to him on national.
He choose to me attack here on this topic as he had no response to my post that was substantial he knew that. It was an alternative attack I assure you as
otherwise he would never have responded he just does not speak to me much and I don't mind. He's a good gauge of how hot the temperature is in the
spirit realm though...thanks mark! A post was deleted I penned here to him of which I am fine with, always am when that happens.

I am not one to indulge others in self destructive vices that also trickle into this world and thus to me. I don't see that is a bad thing but often it's difficult to curb a
redactional response. Especially when he incoming sensory is includes that of the incoming killing intentions on all levels. You notice what is coming through in veils in the
"tree of life synagogue" massacre maybe, maybe not but I do...it keeps coming I feel it coming I do no want it but it needs to happen so it can be no more, never again sequoia,
never again.

I spent too long on this it's too much really my bad...so I gotta go and just forget this may have grammar errors as I am not coming back and reading what you post anymore
being you are non receptive to the message. I don't like to go on to explain as much as I have...but no one watches the videos...it's upsets me also it's normal.



Best to you...
may you seek to perfect your love so that you shall not fear..

Truly,
~🦋~Eve


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Date: October 27, 2018 at 17:03:56
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: it's not about solar minimum what I share, step out of your comfort

URL: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jWe6Tx89GU




zone please! I know I shared the contents of bottom line study but I said I never needed them...Look around and acknowledge
your personal contribution is what it's about. Hold yourself accountable...it's a mass mindset in a box, step out of the box free
your mind. You all are making it harder than it is trying to figure out what is the problem when maybe it's well ...you. I know it
was me getting in my own way and following herd mentality. No longer. If you don't agree with the way I express myself then
you don't I don't per se agree with the way others express themselves at times either. But I tell you this much I know in my
heart I want more for you than you want for yourself's and on the soul level is what I am talking about.

The problem is in the lack of understanding between us is no one responding is actually viewing at least one of the videos I
have recommended. Earthlings is one of the best to show how this world depends on animal suffering for it's livelihood. For the
love of God if no one can bring themselves to view this as I recommend then you are not going to understand from the point of
view of common sense and wisdom...one must start at the bottom and begin to wake up, be open minded and realize you don't
know everything and a bunch of book learning from scientists are not about love, compassion, concern for the welfare of the
earth and earthlings per se. If you cannot gather up the courage to view these and go on pretending to think you understand
what I am talking about then I tell you that you don't. You may ask yourself what is holding you back...fear? of change? or
what... I mean in the words of one of what you call your forefathers said "“Only Thing We Have to Fear Is Fear Itself”...

...and I say to you "there is no fear in LOVE, perfect love casts out fear".

To love others as we love ourselves it is necessary to put one self in another's place ...including the animals and the living
creations of the Almighty. It's not easy to love in this world and true love in my opinion is not found in this world that comes
from obedience to the true laws and I am not talking man made laws...but the laws the creator made for us to follow to keep the
in the natural in perfect harmony....Those are the least one must to in order to be able to follow the Golden Rule. Many talk
about love but I never met anyone on this sojourn who is truly complete in love. That is the problem. Any other thing man thinks
he found by science is whoopee compared to the one who created the living world...It's absolutely nothing by comparison to
the great spirit of true life. I say those lack the true foundation of wisdom immersed in all the mind boggling heavily laden
overly wordy (and destructive to the natural world as well)... science slinging of mankind may very well be the thing that is
making them blind. I know what it is I have a minor in college biology so all this spewing of science stuff I am not impressed
with, it's nothing if one does not understand and love the Heavenly All Parent.

Here is an excerpt from the Earthlings link...read it more than once, then watch Earthlings of just hold your peace and remain in
ignorance, your choice. Total common sense bottom line the video's will help you find more if your heart and mind and mind are
open to receiving the message. it's a place to start anyway...ground zero and work your way up out of the darkness.


EARTHLINGS is a 2005 American documentary film about humankind's TOTAL DEPENDENCE ON ANIMALS FOR
ECONOMIC PURPOSES. Presented in five chapters (pets, food, clothing, entertainment and scientific research).



"Earthlings is a 2005 American documentary film about humanity's use of other animals as pets, food, clothing,
entertainment, and for scientific research... Covering pet stores, puppy mills, and animal profession, Earthlings includes footage
obtained through the use of hidden cameras to chronicle the day-to-day practices of some of the largest industries in the
world, all of which rely on animals. It draws parallels between racism, sexism, and speciesism."



(AHEM....it's the beast...following the beast, thats the problem!...but you can watch this and then watch also the other one I
have posted which is even more eye opening to watch is DOMINON posted in this thread....Get back to me when you have
viewed at least Earthlings as I would be interested to know what you think and how you feel...But pleased no more teachings of
men and their graphs they just don't mean much at this point we are over the edge. Please no though it's not about worldly
science expostulations on solar minimum at all it's about personal contribution to the problem at hand and accountability)


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDq3tXmkUjA


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Date: October 28, 2018 at 04:37:52
From: sequoia, [DNS_Address]
Subject: solar minimum


Hi Eve,

you sound unusually aggressive to the point where I am starting to
think that you are a different person from the one who has been
open to fruitful discussion.

In your original post you suggest that CO2 is forcing climate
change and further, that this is caused by humans creating too
much CO2 while ruining natural resources.

I disagree with our assertions that a global warming scenario
exists, that CO2 is the causative factor and that humans are bad
because the create too much CO2.

If I make a campfire or participate in one, for social reasons for
example, does that make me a bad human because the carbon
bound in wood is released as CO2 into the atmosphere?

I agree with you that many human behaviorisms are extremely
bad for the planetary living organism aka Earth, for example by
generating excessive wasteful stinking exhaust fumes with their
gasoline gobbling SUVs. No, I do not drive an SUV. And for nearly
all of my everyday shopping, including common food stuffs such
as potatoes, carrots, broccoli, nuts, I walk. And I even make an
effort to not simply throw away heavy loads of food waste but to
carry them to the forest in a backpack where I return the mineral
rich material (without any plastic) back onto the soil where in no
time flat it magically disappears.

In 1992 the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Earth_Summit made
headlines. Many an environmentalist flocked to the place in
droves. Today those same environmentalists drive SUVs and are
more than happy to attend the latest environmental congregation
be it on the paradises of Bali or Yucatan where they educate the
general world population on such things as low carbon footprints
while flying first class halfway around the world, twice.

Those same self-proclaimed environmentalists keep the street
lights on at 3 am so they can safely navigate back home and avoid
being exposed to the natural dark of the night.

I have no disagreement with what you say quite well: "It's not easy
to love in this world and true love in my opinion is not found in this
world that comes from obedience to the true laws and I am not
talking man made laws...but the laws the creator made for us to
follow to keep the in the natural in perfect harmony."

Solar minimum and all other physical variations of the sun, be they
short or long-term, must be taken into account if we want to really
understand what is commonly called climate. Yet, the CO2 fear
mongers don't want to understand it because it contradicts their
fork-tongued agenda.

Regarding your intense, quite non-Eve-ian, language in the above
posts I would like to say that you may be feeling natural earthly
and/or man-made technical excitations interfering with our senses.
One reason could be that you are under the influence of and
sensing upcoming very strong earth events. Good candidates for a
big quake, but not the only ones, are near Puerto Rico and the
British Virgin Islands, Haiti, Cayman, Ecuador, Chile. A few days
ago you mentioned a headache. That also could be a sign of
impending earth events. It also could be a sign of stupid humans
"playing" with destructive electromagnetic technologies.

As soon as, at least during part of their waking time, humans
around the world begin cultivating small and big gardens together,
in small villages and big cities, an endeavor which I think would
have most spectacular social benefits, and start to grow their
legumes and fruits in their backyards, the world would quickly
become a much better place. Real natural talk would flourish.

sequoia









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Date: October 25, 2018 at 02:39:47
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: IPCC scaring the children again, every summer same thing


their scare tactics are bs. That's the UN wanting
Western governments to transfer wealth. Thank God Trump
saw through all that and pulled us out.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 03:49:36
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: hey LA Manly pants why are you scared....?...it's not just the U.N.




but you won't acknowledge that no surprise. I can see it around me and witness it and noticed the decline of the planet since I arrived and not just that ...the oceans are landfills of
man made shit...wake up or at least please stop pouting like someone is hurting your fluffy fake la la land world.

You won't even watch the evidence presented and consider for a moment you might be wrong....Which you are and even if you tried you can't read the truly natural realm around you
as it's immersed in man made shit of which you can't make out the first layer of so you can peel it back and examine...Such as your kind destroy this planet and contribute to great
suffering and major your own. Plus you forget you are in the Days of Noah part 2 or more likely are too busy strutting around like you know something when you don't in Trumps lala
land unreal fake world. Fools Gold.

If you are in the palm of the Almighty's hand you have no need to be scared. I am not scared but I know what is happening and sadly I did not for awhile and participated in the
destruction of the planet way more than I wanted to. I told you I asked direct and got a direct answer these are the last days and I am gonna be here when the real law clears the air
and the bloods gonna rise and testify to what has been done to God's creation and it's SOON and you gonna be here too. I doubt that scares you cause you don't believe it...Well no
surprise because it's the Days of Noah part 2 and you can't read the signs or more like refuse to read them. But lets see...if Logan were to go on a binge fear mongering with Nibiru
and the Death Ranger you don't say a dang thing. Well that's cause he is a fellow church member of yours of the Republican denomination and come hell or high water you gonna beat
that Republican fake gospel into your plowshares...it's a bomb thats gonna blow you away someday.

Some films below so you can see what all contributions are being made to kill this planet....This planet does not belong to us by the way it belongs to the Almighty as does all in it and
if you not care theres a price to pay someday and you are paying it even now but don't realize it....It's suicide on a massive scale not just you and folks unaware they even committing it
cause that is just how tricky the trickster snake is....If you don't watch them and I doubt you will the you remain ignorant and choose to believe in lies.

Now either take your red pill and get some help for yourself or keep stuffing your senses with the never rending dosage of lala land blues brand of toke smokes, etc.. Somehow I think
you will choose the latter.

You and your Master Trumps fake prosperity gospel tune, it's the wrong church dude.

Your'e welcome!



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BrlBSuuy50Y&t=797s




https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6jWe6Tx89GU




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Date: October 25, 2018 at 18:35:01
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: All that is beside the point, that being science

URL: https://tambonthongchai.com/2018/05/06/tcr-transient-climate-response/


not funded by governments where the scientists dare not
diverge from the party line. This pet hypothesis being
used by both governments and the UN to exert influence
beyond borders is rapidly approaching it's viable shelf
life. They don't prove anything, they dump massaged
data into a computer model, that's the proof.

When applied to real time real world circumstances, the
hypothesis falls apart. This is what happens when you
accept IPCC at face value. Carbon dioxide has been
renvisioned as some kind of poison gas that we need to
mitigate before the planet is doomed. Balderdash.

Carbon dioxide has nothing to do with global warming.

In fact when they try to correlate CO2 to warming,
simply removing the ENSO noise leaves us with zero
warming at all. That's a real time real world
calculation not some computerized model that doesn't
even take solar radiation into account.

3. The ECS sensitivity serves as the link
between artificial carbon dioxide emissions from fossil
fuels and warming with the argument that these
emissions cause atmospheric CO2 to rise and that rise
in turn causes warming due to the GHG forcing of
atmospheric CO2 concentration described by the ECS.
However, the search for empirical evidence of the ECS
in the observational data generated such a large
range of values that the so called “uncertainty
problem” placed this line of reasoning in doubt.
The uncertainty problem and possible reasons for it
are presented in a related post. [ECS: Equilibrium
Climate Sensitivity ].

They cannot prove sensitivity, at least not in the IPCC
models. And they keep reducing past temps to make
future temps match the models predictions. What a
fraud. 1930's were way hotter than now, so they simply
move the goalposts farther ahead in time as a starting
point, and every year make corrections to keep the sham
moving.

Just hitting the tippy top of the high points at link.
To wit:

8. And yet, a statistical detail overlooked in the rush
to TCRE as a replacement for the failed ECS parameter
is that correlations between cumulative values of
time series data are spurious. Since temperature is
cumulative warming, the TCRE derives from a spurious
correlation between cumulative values.
A regression
coefficient that depends on a spurious correlation is
unstable and it does not have an interpretation because
a time series of cumulative values of another time
series contains neither time scale not degrees of
freedom. The spuriousness of correlations between
cumulative values of time series data is described in
these online papers that may be downloaded from
SSRN.COM or
ACADEMIA.EDU SSRN SSRN  SSRN   SSRN   SSRN  ACADEMIA   
ACADEMIA  ACADEMIA  ACADEMIA  ACADEMIA. 

This establishes just one tiny part of how much GIGO is
involved here. More...


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 18:56:19
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: No it is not and you are just making excuses to blind yourself




and it bothers you which shows because deep down you know it's so and you are too
afraid having built your foundation on shifting sand and do not trust in the power you
profess to help you receive the truth because you are not seeking the truth of this
matter....I say you still remain in ignorant bliss too trusting in mans ways to step out of
your comfort zone examine and view at least the Earthlings video so you remain ignorant
and numb to feel others suffering even the very Earth that sustains you, you are deaf to
her cries.


I am not talking about scientist shit per se...I am talking about real experiences ...But
maybe you can't help it as you have lived all your live in a cement man made city that
destroys the natural order...I don't know but even if so, it's still no excuse to continue to be
blind and deaf to caring for others like myself and even your own kindred as what is
happening what we are doing is killing the planet and thus us.


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Date: October 26, 2018 at 21:57:12
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: he works for Bechtel, one of the biggest climate change deniars on the

URL: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2018/mar/23/in-court-big-oil-rejected-climate-denial


planet! Or at least he did for a very long time. Bechtel along with most oil corps like Exxonmobile, et al have been the biggest global warming deniers for years. I provide one link but after searching through all my files kept for years fighting with JTRIV on this subject, can't find any specific info on Bechtel, just know they are part of the larger problem.

I doubt we have many years left to deal with the poster child of global warming, that would be extreme weather events as they play out now. You have seen them so have I. The destruction therein is formidable and so very real to those affected the world over.

It's a simple truth that as CO2 rises, so does the temperature, and those who don't know this are village idiots! Or they work for Big Oil!!

Ryan knows how I fought the climate wars with JTRIV, such a climate denier until he left, that was some years ago and glad to say I no longer participate in it all. Much like Trump supporters, we can't make them think beyond their narrow scope of knowledge.

Kudos to you for even trying to make sense with Mark who in total denial in this subject!


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:15:04
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: You been taking lessons from Jim I see


A. Whatever the "official" government pronouncement
says is the gawdawful truth about everything.
B. There is no global cabal, cadre of super rich that
eschew the limelight but control everything you read
hear or see that has that official stamp on it.
C. When cornered ignore the actual discussion and start
tossing out phrases like "blindness" and "koolaid".
Always personalize it.
I read more in a day than you probably do in a week.
It's part of my curious nature.

You and all the scientists will never prove the A in
AGW. It's impossible. You can observe weather, climate
is a whole nother story. At best it is computer models.
That's it. You really should branch out a bit beyond
officialdom. EPA has 3 EF's (endangerment findings)
that without 1, their entire model collapses. They use
that computerized model to enact regulations that
affect every one of us, so yeah it's kind of important.

Warming causes Co2 increases not the other way around.

The very fact that they cannot, and will not include
solar radiative forcing in ANY of their models should
be enough for any reasonable questioning mind to tap
out. Then again....


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Date: October 26, 2018 at 22:07:21
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: scientists have measured solar the sun for decades

URL: https://www.skepticalscience.com/solar-activity-sunspots-global-warming.htm


solar irradiance has been measured for many years. Here's a graph that totally blows the sun/global warming connection completely!



Study up Mark, you are in need of the real information lest your children inherit a world that is not habitable!


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:17:03
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: no I have not and you are saying that to divert attention from your




own shortcomings...you are your own worst enemy...

I don't want to read the shit you read as obviously it's shit.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 18:52:38
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Cut emissions, who me?

URL: https://notalotofpeopleknowthat.wordpress.com/2018/10/22/cut-emissions-who-me/




....The IPCC says we have got to start cutting
emissions radically immediately, but the rest of the
world is not listening!

 

1) Australia rejects UN call to phase out coal

2)  Japan Will Defy Calls By The IPCC To Phase Out Coal
By Mid Century

Japan’s ambassador to Australia has confirmed Tokyo
will defy calls by the Intergovernmental Panel on
Climate Change to phase out coal by mid-century as part
of a scientific appeal to limit global temperature
increases to 1.5C.
3) China To Speed Up End Of Green Energy Subsidies

3. SHANGHAI (Reuters) – China will speed up efforts to
ensure its wind and solar power sectors can compete
without subsidies and achieve “grid price parity” with
traditional energy sources like coal, according to new
draft guidelines issued by the energy regulator. 

4) Germany’s Merkel Promises New Law To Ward Off Diesel
Driving Bans (And To Save Her Floundering Government)

Love the comments at bottom:

Doug Proctor on October 22, 2018 at 6:06 pm

At what point do direct negations of the IPCC’s
“recommendations” i.e. instructions, by the major
countries lead to the end of the IPCC?

Every person responsible for the IPCC reports is a
salaried citizen of some country, subject to that
country’s leadership’s irritations. A company
bureaucrat can only survive causing trouble for his
company’s CEO for so long. How long for the IPCC
mandarins?

*******


Snowleopard on October 23, 2018 at 3:10 am

“At what point do direct negations of the IPCC’s
“recommendations” i.e. instructions, by the major
countries lead to the end of the IPCC?”

Your guess is as good as mine.

It would have happened already if not for the massive
funds supporting the AGW lie coming from the
Rockefeller and Rothschild groups of families and their
controlled foundations etc. Their ownership, control
and influence over most of the major media and
political parties leadership (worldwide) slows popular
reactions they don’t like. They ARE losing though, and
when they finally throw in the towel, the change in
public perception will be quite rapid. Do not be
surprised if they then agitate for the same sort of
“global governance” to combat global cooling. That may
be more dangerous, as global cooling is an actual
rather than imaginary threat

******

Stonyground on October 22, 2018 at 6:09 pm

Could it really be true that the politicians are
finally waking up to the fact that no one believes the
lies of the IPCC anymore and that spending taxpayers
money on renewable crap is electoral suicide? The
latest IPCC report is so utterly ridiculous that they
have lost credibility with even the faithful. I’ve been
expecting the bubble to burst ever since the
Climategate thing happened, surely it has to happen
eventually. Then we can all feel smug.

******
George Lawson on October 22, 2018 at 10:24 pm

The UK Government will surely follow suit shortly and
wake up to the fact that the IPCC is a ridiculous
scaremongering, lying and expensive body that has now
lost all credibility. It, together with its parent
body, should be wound up at the earliest opportunity,
and allow the world to return to normality, following
too many years of lying scientists pedalling their
false scaremongering to gullible governments across the
world. Sadly, the British government is the world
leader in buying into the hoax hook line and sinker.

*****John Scott on October 22, 2018 at 7:30 pm

How could our virtue signalling politicians possibly
even think about committing economic hari-kari on their
nations on the basis of six so called climate scients
of the 95 members of the IPCC. No politician seems to
have addressed the schizm between the political
ambitions of the IPCC, to redistribute the West wealth
to the rest of the world, while saying the exercise has
nothing to do with Global Warming and the money
grubbing parasite scientists corrupting base data to
prove that AGW is caused by CO2 and the only answer is
to decarbonize the world economy.





Highly reccommend bookmarking link. You may learn a
thing or two.

Oh, and save the condescencion, I've done my homework
and am constantly finding more.

Besides, it will never be proven that AGW even exists.
its impossible. Anthropogenic being the key here.




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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:01:20
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Climate change does not justify gov. intervention in free markets

URL: http://www.carlineconomics.com/archives/4649


Touche. Trump may not be the brightest bulb on the
tree, but getting us out of the Paris treaty scam saves
us billions in wasted wealth redistribution.

Alan Carlin: Why climate change is not an exception
that justifies government intervention in free markets.


Climate change is nothing more nor less than a faddish
scam. Unfortunately, this is not unusual in
environmental issues. One major problem is that there
is no inexpensive way to “solve” it as climate
alarmists claim. In fact, it could easily consume
the entire national income of any nation that really
tried to eliminate it.
The benefits of actually
trying to do so would be negative, not positive. This
is because the climate warriors picked a trace gas
which is vital to life on Earth as their culprit.
And they picked a gas that has had no significant
affect on global temperatures. As Richard Lindzen
pointed out recently climate is influenced by a myriad
of effects and to blame a minor trace gas for whatever
happens is ridiculous.

Fortunately, the scam initially started to take hold in
Europe first. So much of the economic damage has
occurred there, not in the US. And the Europeans are
finally beginning to realize that humoring the climate
alarmists does not make them go away. It only makes
them ask for even more.
They have also begun to
realize that catering to the alarmists will in the end
make Europe economically non-competitive, with
disastrous economic results. European business tended
to assume that as long as government imposed
CO2 reductions that primarily impacted someone else,
that they could live with the results. But they are
beginning to understand that this will lead to their
own demise as business leaves for more energy use
tolerant areas such as Asia.

But damage has been done not only in Europe but also in
parts of Canada and Australia. This week President
Trump showed that he has a good understanding of the
climate “problem” even though he supports one alleged
partial non-solution, the use of higher levels of corn
ethanol in gasoline. (I agree, ridiculous)
This could, however, have more to do with votes in
upcoming elections than real conviction on his part.
But it is not helpful to bringing back some rationality
to the climate issue.

What is needed is for government to stay out of
business, and promote competition, not faddish scams
except in the rare cases where government regulation is
needed because the free market cannot be efficient by
itself. Such is not the case in climate change.



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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:08:40
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: for me it's not about Trump or worldly man made




politics and mans treaties which are always broken and never
ending webs of words that strangle the mind...

you missed the mark again,

stop looking at worldly men and their worldly ways seek the Lord.


And btw why are you talking to yourself?

Shake it off!

Take the blinders off and watch Earthlings it's the manly thing to
do.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:13:39
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: better said for you it's about Trump, I see that for what it is...




thus I refer to that....However, for me he's not my family I am no
kin and no friend to the brotherhood of the snakes whom seek to
snuff out the my Fathers creation to seed death and snuff out life.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 18:58:59
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Doctrines of men do not impress me....




it's an easy pass because I don't really need them to understand,
to see, to feel to ask my Lord what is happening and I have and I
tell you truly you are destroying yourself, the ones you say you
love and the Almighty's creations.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:16:30
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Lol. Okay. That totally jibes with your enduring faith in the IPCC. (NT)


(NT)


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 20:18:17
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: oops you missed again...I don't even refer to such or read ...




their shit or believe in man made worldly organizations.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 08:27:16
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oh here it comes.


I've read enough IPCC crap. This IS UN, and scientists
make their living supporting the status quo.

If you are stupid enough to buy all that bs hook line
and sinker that aint my problem.


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Date: October 25, 2018 at 17:29:38
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: and you




are a problem for your own self, you been baited and hooked by
the jokester and you like it.


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