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Date: September 28, 2018 at 17:26:24
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Antarctic (and Arctic) Methane Could Escape |
URL: https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/08/120831-antarctica-methane-global-warming-science-environment/ |
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https://news.nationalgeographic.com/news/2012/08/12083 1-antarctica-methane-global-warming-science- environment/
A huge amount of methane cathrate is under the antarctic as well as the arctic (permafrost).
excerpts: The researchers suggest that microbes isolated from the rest of the world since the ice closed over them, some 35 million years ago, have kept busy digesting organic matter and making methane—a much more effective greenhouse gas than carbon dioxide. [I question the time for methane production] ……. Antarctica has been at or near the South Pole for more than a hundred million years, but for most of that time the planet was much warmer than today—because the amount of carbon dioxide in the atmosphere was much greater. Plant and pollen fossils confirm that the continent was covered by forests and tundra rather than ice—around 52 million years ago there were even palm trees. Fjords and large bays cut deep into its interior. Deep stacks of sediment would have accumulated in those marine basins, as they do in coastal water today. Inevitably, methane-producing microbes would have been hard at work in that mud, digesting the organic matter—around 21 trillion tons of it, the researchers estimate. The microbes are still at it. ……. Hydrate is strange, fragile stuff. If the pressure drops or the temperature rises enough to take it out of its comfort zone—for instance, because the ice above it melts—it falls apart. The methane escapes to the atmosphere. That's the worry for the future. Climate scientists have long been concerned about the positive feedback that would result if global warming were to destabilize huge reservoirs of methane hydrate in the Arctic. (Read about National Geographic Explorer Katey Walter Anthony's work on methane in the Arctic.)
Now they have the Antarctic to think about too. Wadham and her colleagues calculate there could be anywhere from 70 to 390 billion tons of carbon in hydrates under the East Antarctic ice sheet, and a few tens of billions of tons under West Antarctica. (The methane there may have been made by geothermal heating of sediments rather than microbes.) That's less than estimates for the Arctic but in the same ballpark.
You might think the Antarctic methane would be secure under such a thick ice cap. But the Antarctic has been losing a lot of ice lately. (Related: pictures of modern Antarctic warming.) And it's precisely the glaciers covering former marine basins that are receding the fastest because their leading edges are being eaten away by a warming sea. It's conceivable that before the century is out those glaciers could recede enough to release whatever hydrates they've been covering. "The longer I'm in this glaciology business," said Tulaczyk, "the more I'm willing to accept scenarios for really rapid change." ---------------------------------------
IMO, the massive amounts of methane hydrates in both the Arctic and the Antarctic could be released much faster by direct hits of nuclear bombs, rather than just by warmer weather. Which is another reason to avoid nuclear war.
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Date: September 28, 2018 at 22:09:26
From: Shirley/PA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Melting Arctic Could Rapidly Unlock 'Deep Carbon' Buried in Permafros |
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/disasters/messages/10930.html |
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No need for nuclear war or anything else for that matter.
As Julius Caesar was told, "Alea iacta est."
In Latin meaning the die is cast, there's no turning back.
I believe our Rubicon has already been crossed, some time ago, concerning the release of methane gas. I've posted here several times on it.
There's no stopping it now.
This link is my most recent post and comments.
http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/disasters/messages/10930.html
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