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From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 7 reported missing after US Navy ship collision off Japan
URL: https://www.yahoo.com/news/us-navy-ship-collides-merchant-ship-211549895--politics.html
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Seven crew members are missing and one injured after a U.S. Navy destroyer collided early Saturday morning with a merchant ship off the coast of Japan, the country's coast guard reported. Footage from the Japanese TV network NHK showed heavy damage to the mid-right side of the Navy ship and a person in a stretcher being lifted to a helicopter. The U.S. 7th Fleet said on its Facebook page that the number of injuries is still being determined. The Japan Coast Guard said it received an emergency call from a Philippine-registered container ship ACX Crystal around 2:20 a.m. (1720 GMT Friday) that it had collided with the USS Fitzgerald southwest of Yokusuka, Japan. Coast guard official Takeshi Aikawa said seven crew members are unaccounted for, and one had a head injury. Further details of his or her condition were not known. Relatives of crew members were awaiting news of their loved ones. "Of course we're nervous and scared and just praying," Rita Schrimsher said by telephone from Athens, Alabama. Her grandson Jackson Schrimsher is a 23-year-old sailor aboard the USS Fitzgerald. She said she last communicated with him via Facebook messenger on Wednesday. The Navy's 7th Fleet said the ship experienced flooding in some areas and is heading back to Yokosuka. The fleet said the Fitzgerald has limited propulsion, and the ship suffered damage on the starboard side below the water line. Aikawa said the US ship is partially flooded because of damage. So far no damage or injuries have been reported on the container ship, he said. NHK reported that the merchant ship had scratches on the left side of its bow. The Philippine ship is 29,060 tons and is 222.6 meters (730 feet) long, the coast guard said. The Navy said that the collision occurred 56 nautical miles southwest of Yokosuka, a city south of Tokyo that is home to the U.S. Navy's 7th Fleet. A U.S. defense official said there is flooding in three compartments of the Fitzgerald. The fleet said the USS Dewey, medical assistance and two Navy tugs were being dispatched as quickly as possible and that Naval aircraft were being readied to help. The Japan Coast Guard dispatched five patrol ships and an aircraft carrying medics to the site for search and rescue operations. The Navy's Pacific Fleet said the extent of injuries and damage to the Fitzgerald are being determined, and the incident is under investigation. |
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9896
From: . . ., [DNS_Address]
Subject: Musings of an old salt
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Destroyer Captain Screwed Please allow me to share from my fount of nautical expertise won from 11-years before the mast. (Remember: I lived on a 40-foot offshore capable sailboat for more than a decade and you can't help but learn a few things.) 1. There are two sides to a boat. The "starboard side" is the right (when facing forward - toward the bow. The "port side" is they left side of the ship when facing forward. 2. When ships/boats are crossing one another's path, the vessel whose captain sees another vessel to his right/starboard is the "burdened vessel." 3. The ships/boats whose captain sees a ship to the port side is called the "stand on" vessel. While crossing paths, the "stand on vessel" is obligated to maintain a steady coarse and speed as the burdened vessel is obligated to adjust speed and heading to avoid injury. 4. Viewed from another ship, any vessel will have a green light on the starboard side at night meaning that ship to right (the stand on vessel) has a "green light" to proceed on course and speed. 5. There is a red light on the port (left facing forward) side. It tells others, spying the ship we're on, that they must maneuver to avoid collision because we are the stand on. Red light means stop, don't his this. It ain't that complicated. Which is why, when a U.S. Navy destroyer collided with a Philippine Cargo Ship, we only need to notice that the damage to the U.S. ship was on the starboard side. Anyone remotely familiar with admiralty law needs only to glance at the photos to see the destroyer was the "burdened" vessel and always has the duty to maneuver to avoid collision. The only possible defense for the captain in this ill-fated situation, which may have caused the loss of 7 sailors, is if the Philippine ship changed course and speed. Otherwise, look for a negligence court martial after what should be an admiral's mast to determine facts. The damage on the starboard side amidships is pretty damning evidence. Fog, cargo carrier course change, avoiding yet-another vessel not mentioned or terrorist speed boat (no mention) are about the only things that will keep the skipper out of harms way now. |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Musings of an old salt
| Interesting information, thank you! |
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From: Nasirah, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Musings of an old salt
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From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: UPDATE: US Navy Destroyer Collides With Container Ship
URL: http://gcaptain.com/us-navy-destroyer-collides-container-ship/
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Please see link. Also posted on International. |
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From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: UPDATE: US Navy Destroyer Collides With Container Ship
| looks like the container ship collided with the destroyed to me looking at the damage...aren't they supposed to have radar and all of the techie stuff to tell when a ship is approaching?.... |
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From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: UPDATE: US Navy Destroyer Collides With Container Ship
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I suspect someone was not paying attention. (Just my thought.) Smaller vessels give way to the larger. Always. No matter who has the 'right of way'. It takes MILES for those gollywoggin' big ones to stop. Neither can they change course in a minute. (Also, powered vessels give way to those under sail.) |
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From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: 'There was nobody in charge': Japanese cargo ship was on AUTOPILOT whe
URL: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-4617742/Shambolic-start-probe-USS-Fitzgerald-collision.html
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'There was nobody in charge': Japanese cargo ship was on AUTOPILOT when it collided with the USS Fitzgerald says defense expert and no one knew how to turn it off after accident which claimed the lives of seven US Navy sailors By Michael Fitzpatrick In Japan For Dailymail.com Published: 07:25 EDT, 19 June 2017 | Updated: 10:10 EDT, 19 June 2017 There was nobody on the bridge of a Japanese cargo ship when it struck the USS Fitzgerald on Saturday and the vessel was operating on autopilot, claims an expert with defense industry bible Janes. As the investigation into the collision which claimed the lives of seven US Navy sailors got off to a shambolic start - with neither side agreeing what time it happened - one expert says it was computer error which caused the fatal crash. 'I suspect, from the data, that the ACX Crystal was running on autopilot the whole time, and nobody was on the bridge. If anyone was on the bridge, they had no idea how to turn off the autopilot,' said Steffan Watkins, an IT security consultant and ship tracking analyst for Janes Intelligence Review, to DailyMail.com. |
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From: Captainj, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'There was nobody in charge': Japanese cargo ship was on...
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From the pics I have seen, the warship should have turned right (Starboard) and gone astern of the freighter. The warship was seeing the Port side of the freighter, which shows RED, meaning STOP or 'give way' to the freighter. The freighter was seeing the Starboard side of the warship, which shows GREEN, meaning GO or 'stand on' to the warship. The nitty gritty of the whole thing is that BOTH are at fault, the warship more so. Navigation rules also state: If the 'give way' vessel is not taking actions to prevent a collision, the 'stand on' vessel is to take actions to prevent the collision. The speculation of no one on the bridge of the freighter just confounds things. It does not make right that the warship was not taking the proper actions to prevent a collision in the first place. |
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From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'There was nobody in charge': Japanese cargo ship was on...
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I was thinking that if such collision was eminent, my question is Why didn't one of them take action to prevent it? Seems to me the logical one to have given way would have been the much easier maneuverable warship. Those freighters can't change course in a few feet. Dang, if I'm a little VW and some 18-wheeler wants in my lane, I'm sure as heck going to let him have it! |
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From: Captainj, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: 'There was nobody in charge': Japanese cargo ship was on...
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Unless something really new and exciting new comes out... The warship should have given way to the freighter in the first place. Once the freighter saw that a collision is imminent, due to warship not following the rules, they should have turned right to avoid the collision. Sometimes the smaller does get out of the way of the larger... |
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