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Date: May 16, 2017 at 09:48:21
From: blindhog 6th Sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Disasters Being Built


Last night on C2C author David Hagberg talked about what George Noory described as being pencil thin skyscrapers. Hagberg said these skyscrapers have a ground floor with dimensions as small as 50 ft. by 50 ft.

He continued by saying the engineers say the buildings DO sway, but that they have counterbalanced that sway with counter weights that are moved back and forth, depending on the wind. These counter weights are HUGE, weighing as much as 300 to 800 TONS!!!! He also went on to say that computers control these counter weights and their movement. AHHHH, computers...they never fail us do they????!!!!

How would you like to live on the top floor and have 300 to 800 tons rolling back and forth over your head?

These buildings seem like a disaster waiting to happen. I say that because I just heard from my son about Colorado Springs experiencing a rare two days of sustained 100 mph winds that caused schools to cancel bus service to schools and caused trees to tumble and roofs to lose shingles.

Like Mr. Hagberg said, at higher levels the winds are the strongest as there are no hills, and trees or smaller buildings to lessen the velocity and damaging power.

Anyone who plays JENGA knows, the higher the structure, the more unstable that structure is.

The ONLY thing that will stop the building of these building is insurance that is TOTALLY unaffordable. Of course, there may be insurance carriers who say they'd pay, but don't have the resources to honor that commitment.

I wonder what the insurance company is doing regarding San Francisco's "leaning tower", another disaster?


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Date: May 17, 2017 at 05:45:36
From: Nancy, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Disasters Being Built


Interesting article. I was surprised that given the tools available to do
risk assessment, engineers continue to take unbelievable risks. But
the risk they take isn't with their own lives. My husband is an
engineer, and even on home projects, we disagree all the time on the
"right" way to do things. I find that their degrees tend to make many
of them arrogant. As for the leaning tower in San Francisco, the
building is also near a huge fault line. How in the world did they
receive approval to build it anyway?! The longer we go with no
accident, the more complacent folks become...


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Date: May 17, 2017 at 02:19:13
From: Petra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Disasters Being Built - It Works


HI BH,

There was a show on TV about two weeks ago covering the entire project and nearing the end it got really dicey as the project contractor was coming and expected to see it finished and then it started to rain.

Actually, it's an amazing step in engineering structures where they wish to make them smaller though much higher, yet includes plenty of space for gardens to grow along the sides of the building to add a more homey environment, yet very modern.

I'm not sure if those who have commented are qualified to judge the work, but such endeavors are tested for years before they're ever constructed. However, when we read news stories about newly constructed buildings it's exceeding rare to find substantial failure.

Though maybe we should remember the doctor who started creating housing kits for quake survivors made out of bamboo. It's been an answer for so many, yet they admit they are not good in cyclones or hurricanes, but in assembly it's super fast. And free as well compliments of the doctor who designed them.

Petra


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Date: May 25, 2017 at 05:06:16
From: Nancy, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Disasters Being Built - It Works


I work for NASA. If the buildings went through as much testing as
space flight hardware, they would have caught the problem. I saw
on the new Planet Earth II the "Gardens By The Bay" in Singapore.
Perhaps that is what should be built there. I would love to see it, but I
doubt I will ever travel outside of the USA again.... and you are
correct, it is impossible to judge the work there. I really feel sorry for
the residents there.


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Date: May 17, 2017 at 09:52:19
From: blindhog 6th Sense, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I Don't Have a Degree in Engineering, But I Do Have Common Sense


I read that at it's base The San Francisco "leaning tower" was at a 2 inch
tilt and at it's height, it has a 15 inch tilt.

George Noory's guest seemed to indicate that the building framing would
probably start snapping at the lower level.

No one could pay me enough to live in or around that building, or, for that
matter, any of those pencil thin buildings around the world.


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Date: May 16, 2017 at 13:15:01
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Disasters Being Built


ya, I have been wondering that about all the super duper tall skyscrapers too....and ALL THAT GLASS....I sure wouldn't want to be under one of those when the winds/earthquakes/wobbles happen....the bigger they are, the harder they fall....

just plain stoopid in my estimation...(and dangerous, duh!)


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