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9819


Date: April 02, 2017 at 08:48:22
From: LaMan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: State Feds keeping latest Oroville dam assessment secret

URL: http://www.sacbee.com/news/state/california/water-and-drought/


of course, "for national security reasons". Bastards.

This one dam supplies 30% of So Cal water btw, but they
will be keeping it low for the foreseeable future, to
protect and repair the integrity of the dam, or they just
may dump the entire thing into the Pacific..

One things for sure, after assembling their crack teams
of experts to assess, they locked the report from public
view.


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9823


Date: April 03, 2017 at 16:12:29
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: State Feds keeping latest Oroville dam assessment secret


Oh wow, that's amazing they locked he report! They've got likely an inch and a half of rain coming this weekend too. Hopefully they've removed enough water. How they are going to fix the spillway temporary and permanent when the rock face is mostly weathered bedrock, I cannot imagine.


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9820


Date: April 02, 2017 at 17:42:41
From: KAN DAEK/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: State Feds keeping latest Oroville dam assessment secret


If enough comes down "slow" will not be an option. there is long term
actual leaking on the dirt dam itself and that is mostly being covered. The
"new spillway" once all the dirt is down to bedrock will work fine. As long as
the old rusty gates work right that is.


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9822


Date: April 02, 2017 at 17:57:19
From: Curly Bear, [DNS_Address]
Subject: It is NOT safe!


The entire emergency concrete spillway was built WITHOUT
rebar reinforcement! And if one looks up the news
reports of when this spillway was first used in
February, there was mention to the effect of "the
spillway is safe because it's built on solid bedrock."

Those sob's have yet to tell the whole truth. When the
disaster first happened the damn "officials" side-
stepped and never addressed questions of the 2007
engineering survey that documented these defects.

And now they're reporting that the spring runoff 148% of
normal snowpack will be manageable. But all it takes is
ONE 'pineapple Winter) to melt most of the snowpack in a
very, very short time. The damn won't be able to handle
it.

And if everything is so damned "Safe" as they claim, why
make their findings confidential and prohibited from the
public??????????


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9827


Date: April 17, 2017 at 07:02:15
From: KAN DAEK/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is NOT safe!


the emergency spillway was leaking UNDER it and rebar on that little bit of
concrete did not mean much


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9825


Date: April 05, 2017 at 17:43:27
From: KAN DAEK/Denver, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is NOT safe!


I didn't say it was safe.. I said for now the spillway since the majority of the
erosion is "safe"... The DAM and its abutment to the spillway side is NOT
SAFE

There are reasons they have the world attached to the spillway...to hide the
other.


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9826


Date: April 15, 2017 at 16:46:32
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: It is NOT safe!


What 'other' or do you mean 'all the others', lol? We sure do have strange sequences of reported news events, for sure. So much news in 'mainstream' is now much less than what's reported almost anywhere else. PBS used to be alternative news and now has blatant propaganda political views without any of the research or concerns that people have, on damn near any topic. Sad.


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9828


Date: April 18, 2017 at 12:26:28
From: Poppie, [DNS_Address]
Subject: PBS political


KQED in the main bay area seems to have a monopoly on news from PBS -- less and less representative of people at large. It used to be truthfully academic and highbrow, with a good 'cloth coat republican' and there was pretty interesting stuff on it if you were the patient listening kind of person (not much excitement.)
Now it is very trendy and liberal, approving all and not very critical. Less information and more opinion. Adoration for the disrupters and techies, stuff for the kids of all the up and comers pushing their kids to college. Not so much for middle aged displaced folks.
I found another KCSM and another PBS station from Sonoma that seem to have more 'people' based Americana culture. Lots of country string bands!


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