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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Everyone assumes Daichi NPP disaster won't get worse..
URL: Typhoons cause ‘ice wall’ to melt at Fukushima nuclear plant
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A couple of typhoons and pooof, the frozen wall that was never entirely frozen anyway, is now failing from too much storm water. They are trying to inject sodium chloride into some of the pipes to re-freeze the ground around the nuclear reactors. Meanwhile, during the typhoon, about 750 tons of water was pumped out into the ocean. It was said just 15cm of water more and the plant would have been flooded with melted, highly radioactive slush and storm water. I figure the radioactive water is likely going underneath the frozen areas of soil or out sideways into the ocean, despite all the 'plans' to contain it. It's still hard to believe we have four nuclear meltdowns pouring out into the Pacific Ocean, forever. Most folks truly have no idea what this means for the food chain or how it will affect their health in the future. And yet, new NPP's continue to break ground and nothing is done about the BWR reactors with spent fuel pools suspended 100 feet in the air. Heck, I doubt we have even two weeks of extra electrical backup for any of the U.S. plants if an earthquake or flood hits them. The only really good anti-radiation therapy I've heard about is lipolyzed Vitamin C, made in an ultrasonic cleaner meant for larger items so you can make a lot of it with powdered Vitamin C and lecithin granules. There is a Japanese doctor trying desperately to get the word out to other Japanese to start taking this more available form of Vitamin C. It's one of the few substances shown to be a strong mitigating factor in fighting free radicals created by tissue being hit by ionized radiation. Also, I've heard saunas, with niacin that creates flushing taken before you enter, can help get radiation out of your liver. God help us all. I never thought I'd see this kind of massive depop in progress all over the northern hemisphere, in my lifetime. I was pretty sure about the possibility for any kids I might have (and didn't) but I didn't think it would happen NOW. Well, ya know, Annunaki coming back, P-X due in by December 2017, New Madrid likely to go off (Fema Walmart set ups the most dense in New Madrid areas), global economy crash and new world order in the wings, sheesh, I guess the sh*t is getting real. For whatever reason, the Japanese are sure not getting one tiny break in massive changes affecting their nation and the rest of the world. |
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From: Petra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
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Hi Poly, Radiation from Fukushima only affected the workers and caused by one death and the sum total is fewer than 50 got thyroid cancer which is easily treated by removal of the thyroid gland. I had the surgery in 2006 which is simple and requires on overnight visit to the hospital and thyroid pills for the remainder of one's lifetime. Though if not removed the cells from the thyroid gland can go into the lungs and cause lung cancer, so it's best treated early. Normally thyroid issues develop from age 25-29 and such was the case with my mother though it can emerge later in life as for me due to other causes. The disaster at Fukushima happened 5 years ago and we haven't heard of any cases outside of Japan and I think it's time to set the worry wagon aside because there's much more to be concerned with right here in our own country under our own noses. Last year 100,000 persons died in the US due to medical mistakes yet it remains the silent killer, but if we had a natural disaster which would be on a similar scale folks would be coming unglued. So as we remember the victims of 9/11 which took 3,000 lives it's a drop in the bucket by comparison and of all deaths caused in the US medical malpractice tops every one of them. Now ask why there's no mass outrage? Petra |
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From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
URL: http://www.counterpunch.org/2016/09/12/fukushima-backlash-hits-japan-prime-minister/
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Fukushima Backlash Hits Japan Prime Minister by Robert Hunziker Nuclear power may never recover its cachet as a clean energy source, irrespective of safety concerns, because of the ongoing saga of meltdown 3/11/11 at Fukushima Daiichi Nuclear Power Plant. Over time, the story only grows more horrific, painful, deceitful. It’s a story that will continue for generations to come. Here’s why it holds pertinence: As a result of total 100% meltdown, TEPCO (Tokyo Electric Power Company) cannot locate or remove the radioactive molten core or corium from the reactors. Nobody knows where it is. It is missing. If it is missing from within the reactor structures, has it burrowed into the ground? There are no ready answers. And, the destroyed nuclear plants are way too radioactive for humans to get close enough for inspection. And, robotic cameras get zapped! Corium is highly radioactive material, begging the question: If it has burrowed thru the containment vessel, does it spread underground, contaminating farmland and water resources and if so, how far away? Nobody knows? According to TEPCO, removing the melted cores from reactors 1,2 and 3 will take upwards of 20 years, or more, again who knows. But still, Japan will hold Olympic events in Fukushima in 2020 whilst out-of-control radioactive masses of goo are nowhere to be found. TEPCO expects decades before the cleanup is complete, if ever. Fortunately, for Tokyo 2020 (the Olympic designation) radiation’s impact has a latency effect, i.e., it takes a few years to show up as cancer in the human body. A week ago on September 7th, Former PM Junichiro Koizumi, one of Japan’s most revered former prime ministers, lambasted the current Abe administration, as well as recovery efforts by TEPCO. At a news conference he said PM Shinzō Abe lied to the Olympic committee in 2013 in order to host the 2020 Summer Olympics in Japan. “That was a lie,” Mr Koizumi told reporters when asked about Mr Abe’s remark that Fukushima was “under control,” Abe Lied to IOC About Nuke Plant, ex-PM Says, The Straits Times, Sep 8, 2016. The former PM also went on to explain TEPCO, after 5 years of struggling, still has not been able to effectively control contaminated water at the plant. According to The Straits Times article: “Speaking to the IOC in September 2013, before the Olympic vote, PM Abe acknowledged concerns but stressed there was no need to worry: “Let me assure you, the situation is under control.” PM Abe’s irresponsible statement before the world community essentially puts a dagger into the heart of nuclear advocacy and former PM Koizumi deepens the insertion. After all, who can be truthfully trusted? Mr Koizumi was a supporter of nuclear power while in office from 2001-2006, but he has since turned into a vocal opponent. Speaking at the Foreign Correspondents Club of Japan in Tokyo, Mr Koizumi said: “The nuclear power industry says safety is their top priority, but profit is in fact what comes first… Japan can grow if the country relies on more renewable energy,” (Ayako Mie, staff writer, Despite Dwindling Momentum, Koizumi Pursues Anti-Nuclear Goals, The Japan Times, Sept. 7, 2016). Mr Koizumi makes a good point. There have been no blackouts in Japan sans nuclear power. The country functioned well without nuclear. Further to the point of nuclear versus nonnuclear, Katsunobu Sakurai, mayor of Minamisoma, a city of 70,000 located 25 km north of Fukushima No. 1 nuclear plant, at a news conference in Tokyo, said: “As a citizen and as a resident of an area affected by the nuclear power plant disaster, I must express great anger at this act… it is necessary for all of Japan to change its way of thinking, and its way of life too – to move to become a society like Germany, which is no longer reliant on nuclear power,” (Sarai Flores, Minamisoma Mayor Sees Future for Fukushima ‘Nonnuclear’ City in Energy Independence, The Japan Times, March 9, 2016). In March of 2015, Minamisoma declared as a Nonnuclear City, turning to solar and wind power in tandem with energy-saving measures. Meanwhile, at the insistence of the Abe administration, seven nuclear reactors could restart by the end of FY2016 followed by a total of 19 units over the next 12 months (Source: Japanese Institute Sees 19 Reactor Restarts by March 2018, World Nuclear News, July 28, 2016). Greenpeace/Japan Discovers Widespread Radioactivity One of the issues surrounding the Fukushima incident and the upcoming Olympics is whom to trust. Already TEPCO has admitted to misleading the public about reports on the status of the nuclear meltdown, and PM Abe has been caught with his hand in the proverbial cookie jar, but even much worse, lying to a major international sports tribunal. His credibility is down the drain. As such, maybe third party sources can be trusted to tell the truth. In that regard, Greenpeace/Japan, which does not have a vested interest in nuclear power, may be one of the only reliable sources, especially since it has boots on the ground, testing for radiation. Since 2011, Greenpeace has conducted over 25 extensive surveys for radiation throughout Fukushima Prefecture. In which case, the Japanese people should take heed because PM Abe is pushing hard to reopen nuclear plants and pushing hard to repopulate Fukushima, of course, well ahead of the 2020 Tokyo Olympics since there will be events held in Fukushima Prefecture. After all, how can one expect Olympians to populate Fukushima if Japan’s own citizens do not? But, as of now to a certain extent citizens are pushing back. Maybe they instinctively do not trust their own government’s assurances. But, more chilling yet, after extensive boots-on-the-ground analyses, Greenpeace issued the following statement in March 2016: “Unfortunately, the crux of the nuclear contamination issue – from Kyshtym to Chernobyl to Fukushima- is this: When a major radiological disaster happens and impacts vast tracts of land, it cannot be ‘cleaned up’ or ‘fixed’.” (Source: Hanis Maketab, Environmental Impacts of Fukushima Nuclear Disaster Will Last ‘decades to centuries’ – Greenpeace, Asia Correspondent, March 4, 2016). That is a blunt way of saying sayonara to habitation on radioactive contaminated land. That’s why Chernobyl is a permanently closed restricted zone for the past 30 years. As far as “returning home” goes, if Greenpeace/Japan ran the show rather than PM Abe, it appears they would say ‘no’. Greenpeace does not believe it is safe. Greenpeace International issued a press release a little over one month ago with the headline: Radiation Along Fukushima Rivers up to 200 Times Higher Than Pacific Ocean Seabed – Greenpeace Press Release, July 21, 2016. Here’s what they discovered: “The extremely high levels of radioactivity we found along the river systems highlights the enormity and longevity of both the environmental contamination and the public health risks resulting from the Fukushima disaster,” says Ai Kashiwagi, Energy Campaigner at Greenpeace Japan. “These river samples were taken in areas where the Abe government is stating it is safe for people to live. But the results show there is no return to normal after this nuclear catastrophe,” claims Kashiwagi. “Riverbank sediment samples taken along the Niida River in Minami Soma, measured as high as 29,800 Bq/kg for radiocaesium (Cs-134 and 137). The Niida samples were taken where there are no restrictions on people living, as were other river samples. At the estuary of the Abukuma River in Miyagi prefecture, which lies more than 90km north of the Fukushima Daiichi plant, levels measured in sediment samples were as high as 6,500 Bq/kg” (Greenpeace). The prescribed safe limit of radioactive cesium for drinking water is 200 Bq/kg. A Becquerel (“Bq”) is a gauge of strength of radioactivity in materials such as Iodine-131 and Cesium-137 (Source: Safe Limits for Consuming Radiation-Contaminated Food, Bloomberg, March 20, 2011). “The lifting of evacuation orders in March 2017 for areas that remain highly contaminated is a looming human rights crisis and cannot be permitted to stand. The vast expanses of contaminated forests and freshwater systems will remain a perennial source of radioactivity for the foreseeable future, as these ecosystems cannot simply be decontaminated” (Greenpeace). Still, the Abe administration is to be commended for its herculean effort to try to clean up radioactivity throughout Fukushima Prefecture, but at the end of the day, it may be for naught. A massive cleanup effort is impossible in the hills, in the mountains, in the valleys, in the vast forests, along riverbeds and lakes, across extensive meadows in the wild where radiation levels remain deadly dangerous. Over time, it leaches back into decontaminated areas. And as significantly, if not more so, what happens to the out-of-control radioactive blobs of corium? Nobody knows where those are, or what to do about it. It’s kinda like the mystery surrounding black holes in outer space, but nobody dares go there. Fukushima is a story for the ages because radiation doesn’t quit. Still, the Olympics must go on, but where? Robert Hunziker lives in Los Angeles and can be reached at roberthunziker@icloud.com |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
URL: http://peaceroots.org/wp-content/uploads/2016/05/FukushimaRadiationAffects.pdf
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What B.S. rag have you been reading? One death, are you kidding me? Just keep positive thoughts and don't stress out too much about radiation. Given 500+ nuclear plants that release radiation as a course of refueling not to mention disasters, it's a rather myopic view to entertain the 'least amount of damage' from an event like Daichi's NPP. You're eating a continuous stream of Daichi radiation but no worries- :D Que sera sera, eh? Hypothyroidism has increased on the West Coast. The damage to Japan's kids in Fukushima is horrendous. No problem removing all their thyroid cancers as they grow up. Really? I lived with someone who's thyroid was irradiated around 23 yrs. old. Surgery would have been better methinks. Taking synthetic or animal thryoid replacement is not a picnic, imo. The Internet forums are loaded with people who never felt right after their thryoid went south and was ablated. Most never get the right adjustment of T3/T4 no matter what they do. You are very lucky if you haven't had issues or many changes with your replacement thyroxin efficacy. Worry wagon? Your picture of Japan is a little 'off' from my reading of what's happened to workers and most of Japan. Do you know that adult diapers are still one of the most increased products needed in Japan, since Daichi blew up? You aren't reading all the articles on changes in kids and adults along the West Coast. Maybe you need to check out something closer to home like this article from Sonoma State University? Each to his own. Some people do not want to understand or learn anything about radiobiology or the accumulation of radiation in the food chain. People often feel better if they maintain their own world view and entertain little of what they feel is 'negative' out in the world. I have an aunt like that who ditches friends who she sees as negative when in fact, she simply doesn't value their interests, negative or positive. One little fly in their soup and it's all over. Too grim? Can't cope. Until Diachi radiation accumulation hits us in the face and we drop dead, most humans are like chimps. If they can keep on moving, eating, and fornicating, cool- :D Seriously, if you cant' see it and taste it in your food, air, water, and soil, it must not be there! I won't last a long time as I've had too many diagnostic tests so I really balk when someone wants to do 7 spinal x-rays before they do chiropractor manipulation. The mantra is 'It's only a little BIT!' All we need is to get radiation testing of urine and find a whole body counter to get a count of the gamma particles flying off your body! There are ways to know how much you've been exposed to. More and more exposure makes you more and more sensitive to the affects of radiation. Some will see no differences in their health, others have no idea what radiation does and how pervasive it is in biosystems. So be it. Sometimes fear is a warning, not a mongering. I'd be happy to see all the NPP's gone and alternative energy sources developed with gusto. Instead, we barely can handle the toxins pouring out of all the fossil fuel production let alone the nuclear plant containment and maintenance. The majority look to MSM and articles that cherry pick details and compare Daichi radiation to bananas, potato chips, and airplane trips. We are talking about 4 reactor cores with actinide isotopes and 60 isotopes the Japanese were very worried about getting into the environment. There are about 2000 isotopes in all that decay out of MOX fuel so go figure what the REAL COUNTS are in the environment. Believe me, you don't want to know. There is still a lot in the air overhead and way up high going round and round with the jet stream. Most of the decay ends up in toxic metal accumulations so we can expect that, for sure. It's best to focus on the reality of much more radiation in our environment (non-cosmic) by testing, detoxing, and taking antioxidants, with lypolyzed Vitamin C an effective one for radiation ingestion. I find it interesting that people really don't want to know what's 'eating them'. The likely upshot of a continuous stream of low level radiation dosing is early death. We won't be able to choose what happens but I can tell you for a fact, if we choose to ignore what's happening across the Pacific pond, it will be less surprising when problems do, suddenly, occur in clusters. Keeping one's head in the sand over the reality of four reactors dispersing into the environment is not advised, no in my 'realist' book anyway. Sticky rad waters have not settled on the West Coast yet but much damage was done already to marine life. Evaporation of sea water bring isotopes onto land, same as it always does. I see very little difference between nuclear bombs and nuclear plants built on earthquake faults. The pro-nuke propagandists have no issues with this. The dumbed down articles and marine chemists sticking their instruments into a couple of places in the ocean all come up with 'move along, nothing to see'. Japan information is suppressed so tightly that one can go to jail for 10 years if the word 'radiation' is mentioned in articles. Shhhhhhh. Sounds like you were never worried Japan radiation might affect your life. The truth is no one will ever know. Isn't that just great for the nucleocrats, boy howdy? Showtime and all the money that goes with it! You can't make this game up. Humans really are crazy in love with nuclear and very dissociated from it's affects. There is no mass outrage about any massive death tolls these days due to humans being very hierarchical in natural social organization, egocentric, and tribal/pack focused. Most humans do what they're told and want to assume what they hear from authorities is the truth. Dogma and normalcy bias keeps down any dissent in the party line. Disseminating science facts to people in a political environment sort of nullifies it's best use, seems to me. We've known for 50 years what radiation does to living tissues, all except the part about trans generational genetic damage, that's fairly recent. I don't plan on sticking my head in the sand on nuclear, anytime soon. MUM is not the word on Daichi or any other nuclear explosions and yet, nuclear weapons continue to be built, ad nauseum, on the planet. Shhhhh. We are doing the destructive renegade deeds of certain Anunnanki and proud of it. Go figure. |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
| P.S. Maybe if you'd had a little iodine when the iodine clouds went overhead, you wouldn't have needed surgery? I mean who knows. You think your thyroid problem was caused by genetics or disease related but maybe not. |
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From: GuiderGlider, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
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Good points Petra. Poly's post has no substantiated data, the Japanese people are not falling over dead and there is no mass 'depop' going on, the world is not ending and to invoke a 'god help us' and then toss in the Annunaki and P-X coming back is quizzical. If god is letting the Annunaki and P-X happen why would God help us? Her post is fear mongering at best. |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
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How would you know? Are you following the news from other than MSM or is the response to my post more of the 'get on board' with the party line propaganda? I really want to know how you've come to the conclusion that nothing much has happened when you likely know little of hospital statistics or individual stories about radiation damage. Hint hint: the radiation is in your food now but shhhhh, those alphas are darned hard to find without 30,000 dollar equipment unless you want to pay 500-600 for a good pancake tube. Never mind that you only needed to breathe a couple of hot particles into your lungs during 2011-2012+ to hopefully be encased to not create lung cancer. All the massive amounts of Xenon we inhaled is another story for lung cancer propagation. We are all living in a live radiation experiment. No one knows what will happen. Most people would rather believe radiation in large amounts does NOTHING to them. Wow, just wow, lol! So I take it you're all going to the 2020 Japan Olympics? Have fun- :D I think people are forgetting that latency in radiation exposure is FIVE years to leukemias and lung cancers (and pathway cancers) and TEN TO FIFTEEN years to solid tumors. There's lots of research on these facts but then who wants to go reading all that nasty grim stuff? No worries then. It's invisible and invincible and we all get to experience it's wonders, LOL. All I'm saying is give 'your right to healing' a chance. I gotta say I'll be damned if I stop talking about it in the near future or until I'm dead. The cover up of health affects of nuclear radiation is the biggest SNOW JOB in the history of mankind, hands down. It's ridiculous that people see my post as fear mongering when the facts stand that none of the nuclear plants are SAFE and there is no radioactive isotopes that do anything to living cells except to take them apart and break DNA strands. What's there to love about it? Of course IF the topic is received as 'only fear mongering' on this board, I likely will post elsewhere in order to have a conversation other than, 'radiation is a problem/ radiation is not a problem' - :) The topic is a little more complex than that. |
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From: GliderGuider, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
| Again...your post is missing any factual data. Long on deriding me but still missing any factual data. |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Keep Churning The Fear Factory?
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You have to be willing to READ in order to fathom the enormous amount of data and evidence for the massive poisoning of the Northern Hemisphere by Fuku Daichi. For those who are in denial or have a bad case of Pooh 'bothers' to look for and read for themselves, no doubt, there is doubtful any amount of links or 'evidence' as you call it that will do ya. What scientists do you believe in to tell you there are no ill effects? What will convince you of the damage created from four reactors melted down and through into the environment of air, water, soil, and your food? In no way do I assume to have enough factual data for the likes of your intelligence! You are someone who, obviously does not monitor their environment, does not own a geiger counter for Cesium 137 or a gamma counter, does not like reading anecdotal and personal accounts of radiation damage from local scientists and citizens, cannot tolerate the horror stories of people living around Hanford, 3Mile Island, Fukushima who were exposed to radiation, rolls eyes and demands more data when anyone points to yet another failure to contain the Daichi NPP plant as being a real problem in the near future for people across the Pacific pond, and who thinks, no, who KNOWS, they must be immune to the biology of radiation effects on humans unless it hits them in the face TODAY. For you and you alone, okay, maybe Petra too, heed no warnings, prepare in no manner, after all what IS the problem? Just beware the fear that slowly rises unannounced in odd physical problems, people getting sick around you, and young people dropping like flies suddenly. You won't known the signs of radiation poisoning until they're yours and maybe not even later when the accumulations get thicker (lead, mercury, and cesium for starters). No one will know that a certain isotope (all marked by their chemical composition btw) will be in your food or that caused you to be sick. Very clever fellows those nucleocrats. Ya gotta love that kind of audacity, tenacity, and raw, blind, scientific competitiveness that fuels a love of nuclear energy! So go on with your bad selves. May you never see what's coming, seriously! It is a Beautiful Life, after all. To take the full ride, see the link- :D What do you need, biblio's, website links, personal interviews from esteemed scientists that can sugar coat any negative outcomes? Pffft. |
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