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Date: August 28, 2016 at 11:40:09
From: Petra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: They've Got the Calling & They're Acting On It |
URL: American Redoubt attracts survivalists, disaffected Californians |
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Here's an interesting article about folks migrating to WA,OR,ID,Montana and Wyoming.
I've been expecting this type of behavior which is recognized by some as "a calling" to which they feel the urge to relocate in advance of a disaster or at times to find themselves in a place that feels harmonious to them.
They're not all true survivalists but when the desire to leave gets strong thankfully those who can will relocate and thus what lies ahead is surely a disaster of a measure some have spoken of but have never lived through.
Petra
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Date: September 02, 2016 at 11:39:47
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: They've Got the Calling & They're Acting On It |
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Let me make you all mad as I tell you what I have observed through the years..first of all..Petra's artivle aboe, there were only two people I did not recongize their names, the rest were hubby's family...and yes, they are all into hospitals and fire fighting and emergency services where they live. It's an funded Govt job where you never get laid off. What you don't earn is easily pocketed some how if need be...and they have been into guns since time started I think and their particular constitutional rights also.
Teh Californians started moving up in teh 70's...I asked
back then "Why" I was todl there were two societies in
California...(1) the wealthy, whom have hispanics operating ther homes while they live all about the world..and (2) Lower income class servants...whom are
shedded in life... by the wealthy. In short they came up here to keep from being the new white slave. Teh higher income status down there, made the rich living folks up here..for many Oregonians, they were ran out back then due to lack of income to compete.
This morning 1,000 homeless are slowly being moved...but no one knows where exacly. Just they can' t
hang thir tent on teh Springwater Corridor any longer...while the City Major...Charles Hales took an week's vacation to take his 44 foot boat down to California...si he's not into this melee that he ordered to happen. Politicans talk big up here and do little unless its gathering more tax revenues off people that can not really afford it. Couple years ago it was said teh Caliofrnian politicans gave thier homeless one way tickets up here to live anyway to get them out of their hair and responsibilty. The last hispanic politican in California I ran into on the net
was also caught embezzling lots of money in her job...and being sued. These homeless people wandering around Portland..have problems that are solvable but
not in tents. TEnts are to small, and living hald outside of them only creates an look of massive chaos
and trash going on, and nobody wants that in their back yard. There have been an few that have made thier tents look "Park like"...but being homeless they got the same treatment..."move on". An few o fthe officials
have taken home some of the one really in need that should be in nursing homes. Let me tell you abou t"tents' because the Native Americans got them pegged down to the rediculouness they really represent. Epsecially the smaller tents. Hers' wha tyou don't have in an smaller tent...no room, lack o f inside heating area, no place hardly to separate dirty from clean clothing..hardly no area for food storage or water if bottled....all those things generally go outside sooner or later. Now, let me tell you what an tipi offers....inside center heating, poles along the outside edge, inside to dry clothes or hang them to air out in, plenty of room for food storage containers.
Privacy for an family. Can be locked shut at the door and the stolen grocery cart is easy stored inside and
if needed be used for baby or pets. You can also hang things off the sides of the tipi, like pots and pans.
From the outside...you see nothing of all this melee.
Knocked down easily in five minutes though it would take and trailer to transport the poles. All the homelss are hoping to live near water...hopfully with fish in it for catching, bu tthey need it for bathing
and general drinking if it's safe to do so. They need bathroom facilities or some place to bury it at any rate. One reason they head to the Park system, whom doesn' twant the either because they need the money from renting camp sites ot fund thier parks ever year.
This is EVERYONE"S basic problem...no money. It will
never get anywhere until it becomes an state/Federal issue with funding....or someone comes up with the realist idea of how to help these people. They are trying to divide them up amoung several metro areas
and let those people in thier handle them...not so bad if they's stop going into the state like the illegals
do, we can' ttake care of them hardly either...but most of them gang up and 20 live in one rental house
most the time....where with shift work they each get an bed and place to cook per 8 hours working shift.
Our welfare offices are more likely to help the families then they are the single homeless wandering
around the city...if Mr. Obama could help us, he'd send
and slightly older biier cruise ship they could dock
down river on the Columbia river with cabins in it for
singles to stay in...Our town is opening up an facitly for 140 women only. I have not heard what other surrounding metro area's are doing to help...most are protesting. They really don' twant these people around.
Yes, the big mega aparement houses out of state owned
just raised rents $40 an month and sent the people out protesting or in sme cases are burning down the apartments. So I would not recommend mmoving up here either. Some of my ideas would be taking an area and supplyin git with small metal sheds facing an outside fire pit on an cement base for the homeless at Henry
Hagg Lake in an remote area out of the public domain.
I think i twould be nice if the churches with basements
would open them up overnight as "warming centers"...and many of them would have to have the
"boss" above them OK it beforehand. I think the Food Bank could help feed those people also. In teh basement it would not affect the upper church either
for church service or events. I atill think getting split up into smaller groups and into area parks might help in being over-whelmed by all those needing help right now. Together they easily represent an small
town themselves these days. Goodwill helps them find jobs, but they need places to live nearby if they get
the job. Yes...there has been successful people that are off the streets for having an job....even i fit's an realtively easy job to manage doing it. They profiled one th eother night on TV. But...in teh case of drugs...I think they need to go to jail and/or rehab somewhere. WE already got one problem, we don't need two. People "blessed out: can't sustain working jobs to care for themselves....they are an hazzard to
employers. I can't think of any Californians coming up here that didn't think mariajuna wasn't an mid-morning snack to imbibe. This was in the 70's also when it was
not the issue it is today also....and so what has happened since they legalized it?...of the states it's now legalized in... prescription drugs for pain relief have fallen 11 per cent by the pharmacies..based average of each of the states grouped together. I think the state and the Federal park system should handle the outside needs for tent tent situation....city parks can't really handle it. If they move these people to remote areas, they need shuttle buses to downtown Portland also.
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Date: September 13, 2016 at 05:34:34
From: JohnL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: They've Got the Calling & They're Acting On It |
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kemokae wrote:
Some of my ideas would be taking an area
and supplying it with small metal sheds facing an
outside fire pit on an cement base for the homeless at
Henry Hagg Lake in an remote area out of the public
domain. Those small metal sheds would
shield from “electronic pulses” more than those
Rhododendron houses you showed me on the internet.
Metal shields block EMF.
As I’ve said before, getting that computer job in
Portland for 27 years helped me a lot financially.
otherwise I’d probably be homeless also. There just
isn’t much space, money and workable plans to construct
houses for the poor. And the economy could be on the
brink.
Many of your posts are very informative. It shows your
concern for the homeless. I can understand your
posts, even if some of the letters seem to be re-
arranged.
in your post “supplyin git” should be supplying it.
A big reason many Californians came to Portland and
Seattle was because of the 2 major earthquakes, one
near SF and the other near LA. Another big reason is
that there are less minorities in the PNW, resulting in
less povert’y. crime and drugs. However, the
combination of the occult and many attractive women,
has made the PNW somewhat of a human trafficking
magnet. Just guessing, that might’ve been what
Jennifer Huston was trying to get away from.
This might make a lot of people mad. too. With so many
“hefty” women, young slender women like JH might be at
a premium. It’s a good thing I haven’t gotten
involved, yet.
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Date: September 02, 2016 at 11:52:34
From: kemokae, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: They've Got the Calling & They're Acting On It |
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Someone doesn't want me speaking again, so hope you can read the post.
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Date: August 29, 2016 at 08:50:20
From: C, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oregon has been over run with Califorians |
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Oregon has been over run with Califorians. Some rents have gone
up 40%- 60%.. Housing prices have skyrocketed. We're being out
priced in our own state. Traffic is a nightmare. Please do not move to
Oregon.
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Date: September 02, 2016 at 17:32:19
From: Lynn, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oregon has been over run with Califorians |
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Now, that wouldn't be very liberal of you... ;)
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Date: August 31, 2016 at 09:50:55
From: Petra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Don't Worry, The Pruning Effect is Coming |
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Hi C,
I became aware of the pruning effect back in the 1980's and it's part of our planets way of dealing with over-population and one day when Cascadia comes the effect will go into place, though volcanic activity could add to it.
I'd never consider moving to Oregon due to seeing a Native American male spirit in my face in Ashland in 1979 and he was angry as they come and they don't like intruders into their territory. Several folks I've known over the years who moved there from other states were met with poor health and financial ruin and now being on the map as a go-to place for assisted suicides it seems fitting.
However, when we relocated to the burbs of Seattle in 1982 the same was said about Californian's there and I made sure we changed our license plates early on, though in speaking to folks about it, their greatest complaint was folks who came from Los Angeles who had uppity attitudes.
Chief Seattle said it best, "We may not be here, but our ghosts will roam amongst you." And they do.
Petra
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Date: August 30, 2016 at 11:33:17
From: kay.so.or, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oregon has been over run with Califorians |
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yes, the traffic has become a nightmare...hoping now that the summer is over it will die down a bit...it has been crazy out there on the roads...
BTW....I moved to oregon in 2003 and discovered that my swedish family actually moved here to Oregon first and then to california, so I felt like I was coming home...:-)
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Date: August 29, 2016 at 10:05:38
From: pamela, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Oregon has been over run with Califorians |
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Ha! I know. My sister lives there- moved there with hubby and son back in 2004-bought some property and house. So she tried to find me a place there to be near her this past year. Her husband passed away in 2007. So its just her and partially disabled son. We could not find a place for me. Too expensive, etc. She lives in the country, not the city.
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Date: August 28, 2016 at 12:00:01
From: Jeff/Lake Almanor,CA, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I loved this part |
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“Anybody with a peanut-sized brain,” he said, can see that the U.S.
economy is in perilous shape because of the national debt, the decline of
American manufacturing and the size of the welfare rolls.
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Date: August 28, 2016 at 12:26:29
From: Petra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I loved this part |
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Hi Jeff,
In the 1980's a church reverend in Bell Gardens, CA told the congregation he had a vision which reflected a horrendous earthquake was going to happen in Southern CA and urged them to move in mass to another state and they did and fortunately or unfortunately the quake never materialized.
Petra
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Date: August 28, 2016 at 12:15:08
From: mr bopp, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I loved this part |
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ah, that explains trump...
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