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Date: February 21, 2014 at 03:59:18
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
URL: DEADLY WARNING! 11,000 Bq/M^3 Pu239 + Am241 AIRBORNE Release in New Mexico |
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Read it and weep, if you're in the wind corridors that carried aerosolized Plutonium and Americium all over the breadbasket of America, from the WIPP storage plant in Carlsbad, NM, following the fire in the underground nuclear storage site. Eleven thousand becuerels (per second, disintegrations) in a cubed meter of air. Crops were no doubt contaminated all over the Midwest too. Horrendous amounts of PU and Americium contaminated worker's on site, outdoor animals and people NW of the plant that was half mile away, then on to Colorado, and east to St. Louis.
This is an astounding report, considering the total sanitization of the news releases by the MSM. I remember hearing only that the workers were put in protective sheltering - not one WORD about the dangerous distribution of alpha particles on the NW wind stream. Thank You, Presstitutes of America! While Americans continue with their daily lives, going to work, going to school, going outside for errands and recreation, the little white lie that started in the 50's about 'peaceful atoms' gains mature status as the biggest snowjob in the history of mankind, that nuclear energy is cheap, safe, efficient, and absolutely necessary for our civilization's survival.
I don't really even have words for what we've done. If these nuclear disasters are the results from our best thinking and social modus operandi, we were fuk'd all along. It's a prideful conceit that mankind is transcending our understanding of being like animals to 'some higher level or purpose.' I don't think we've learned the basic lesson of being like animals. The next lesson we learn about being like animals and nuclear radiation waste, in the near future, will be one that no amount of transhumanist visions can fix.
Like sociopaths who figure they can continue lying and manipulating perception by repeating illusionary mantras about how safe, how cheap, how efficient nuclear REALLY IS - REALLY, the nuclear propaganda will mercilessly continue until the planet is so changed that no one will be able to even imagine a fix or clean up.
I thought we were smarter than this, that we had more compassion, and wanted to improve life. Kevin Blanch is blaming the baby boomers for going to sleep and passively accepting whatever the scientific and political authorities told them, despite lots of evidence from skewed studies. My rationale for this drama is that we are very uneducated despite that education was big in the 50's - not so much since. We have huge masses of people without college degrees or even an associate's degree. I expect many people thought that people who knew more about nuclear energy would do the right thing. The placement of nuclear energy under the defense department militarized (and further hid) the dark side of the nuclear energy industry. The military could defend nuclear technology as it's global power grew. The industry was created primarily for defense first, energy second, with the caveat that nuclear waste issues be solved in the next twenty years. The waste problem was not solved nor will be solved in the near future.
The power and money associated with high level transfers and development of nuc technology around the world led to the old adage, 'absolute power (PU + money) corrupts absolutely.' Nuclear power is associated with absolute corruption and tissue destruction, yet people hang on to the 'promises' of the 50's that nuclear energy was going to be the be all, end all of problems for everyone. The propaganda was thick and worked as well as any Hitlerian campaign. The discovery of nuclear energy allegedly 'saved' us from world war domination, promised to defend and protect (for all times), and gave hope of esternal survivability - quite the propaganda message! We continued to believe the propaganda message, despite the disconnection and destructive side of nuclear technology that was well hidden. We continued to believe whatever any authorities or scientific papers told us about studies on radiation, after all, we hadn't experienced the destruction up close and personal. There was a feeling that the war was to end all wars. We know there are no real 'absolutes' in human understanding or affairs and there is no sustainability in our methods of nuclear technology but we hang on desperately to the promises and hope of the nuclear energy propaganda from the 50's - amazing!
For that matter, there is not much sustainable in 'nature,' as it is a moving target with accumulations and degradations we barely understand. In the case of nuclear isotopes, they are constantly changing at different rates, constantly looking to get rid of their electrons, bonding with every atom needing them. They are much more interactive and totalitarian in their decay process than humans will ever understand in trying to control them for their own purposes. Laser energy may be the wave of the future but for now, we have to deal with the clean up technologies or be run over by the universal IONIZED NUCLEAR DECAY BUS. Personally it feels late in the day when I hear doctors, all kinds of doctors, engineers, and other professionals treat nuclear as though it's still that 'peaceful, helping' little atom that was going to save mankind. The dream of nuclear energy as the be all, end all of problems is going to die HARD.
I am praying that Helen Caldicott will be able to meet with Obama for the half-hour she says she needs, in order to turn him around in thinking about nuclear energy. She thinks she can do it if she emphasizes his love for his girls. I think she can do it too, if she can get the meeting arranged! She met with Reagan way back and thought he was influenced by their talk, although Reagan was already deep into Alzheimer's symptoms (unbeknownst to her, ahead of the meeting).
Okay, sorry for the ramble but this IS very disturbing information. It gets me going...:D If you want to think 'everything is fine' and the outcomes of our collective (nuclear) actions are a 'mind over matter' problem, then please ignore this post!
"DEADLY WARNING! 11,000 Bq/M^3 Pu239 + Am241 AIRBORNE Release in New Mexico
potrblog
Published on Feb 20, 2014
http://pissinontheroses.blogspot.com/...
(c)2014 www.POTRBLOG.com
DEADLY WARNING! Nearly ELEVEN THOUSAND Becquerels per Cubic Meter of Radioactive Pu239 + Am241 Air Released In New Mexico
The WIPP plant likely released a combined Plutonium and Americium Radioactive Cloud measuring approximately 10,541 Becquerels per Cubic Meter of Air during the supposedly "brief moments" that unfiltered air was being released from the WIPP facility. We took "brief moments" to mean 30 seconds.
Obviously this value is significantly higher than what has been reported, the massive low ball 'error' in reported values stems from the fact that air filter sampling measurements are averaged over the entire time period since the air filter was last checked. The filter in question had been sampling from 2/11/14 - 2/16/14, a total of 5 days over which the calculated released values would have been smoothed across.
However, according to public officials DOE's filtering system kicked in very quickly after the alarms went off. Assuming that to be truthful, the radioactive release of Plutonium and Americium would have occurred over a relatively short 30 second period (OR LESS).
Ratioing out the actual 30 second interval minute release of radioactive contamination vs the 5 days over which it was mathematically peanut buttered out, the result is that the contamination was nearly 14,400 times greater than was reported. How such an engineering blunder of time unit mismatch occurred, we'll leave to the reader to ponder; but don't discount that values and units may have been erroneously assumed on either their part or our part. None the less, for risk mitigation purpose the 10,541 Becquerel measurement is what we go by. Nor do we by any means consider the current situation either safe or stable.
It is within DOE's power to release the raw data and let the fact fall where they may, but don't expect that to happen as the situation is a matter of National Security from a military radioactive disposal perspective.
We don't think it is coincidence that DOE originally reported there was 'no release' yet prevented people from going on site to recover air measurement filters. That recovery delay serves to reduce the total reported amount of contamination as those values are averaged over the entire time period the test filters are sampling.
The locations of greatest Airborne danger is a swath of the United States directly North and West of the WIPP plant. Airflow patterns during the event concentrated and directed the radioactive dispersal toward Colorado, normal weather patterns would have then dumped the Fallout over the Midwest Farm Belt."
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Date: March 02, 2014 at 19:44:59
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
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Fallout patterns... hmmm, just like with all the above
ground weapons testing we did in the 40's, 50's and
early 60's... oh joy... gotta love Science... shakes
head...
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Date: February 22, 2014 at 05:53:47
From: mah_ca, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
URL: http://www.epa.gov/radiation/radionuclides/plutonium.html |
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Health Effects of Plutonium
How can plutonium affect people's health?
External exposure to plutonium poses very little health risk, since plutonium isotopes emit alpha radiation, and almost no beta or gamma radiation. In contrast, internal exposure to plutonium is an extremely serious health hazard. It generally stays in the body for decades, exposing organs and tissues to radiation, and increasing the risk of cancer. Plutonium is also a toxic metal, and may cause damage to the kidneys.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zDbmbV0Ous&list=UUQ7a7Q4EN-OY1mdyanRs-3w
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Date: February 22, 2014 at 22:43:56
From: Polydactyl in N.Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
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I think the worst exposure from this particular release of radiation is in any food that has alpha particles in the soil or from ingesting it into lungs, directly. As Potrblog shows in his video, the wind literally funneled the particles north and slightly to the west. Why in God's name not one person could tell people to keep their kids inside for a week, I'll never know. The lack of information is outrageous and inhumane. Radiation releases, after all, are not acts of nature so those who are in the know should be accountable for communicating the situation to surrounding communities. We have tsunami watchers that inform people, why NOT radiation watchers that inform people of potential risk? We could not EVEN inform West Coaster's of rad Iodine and Argon, Xenon, Krypton, and rad Sulphur in huge amounts! Where IS the scientific and leadership accountability? Well, I think it's in their (lack of) balls which the rad Sulphur found, in their HYPO-thyroids where their body's energy was destroyed by rad Iodine, in their loss of breath to speak from inhaling rad Plutonium and Xenon gas, in their thinning bone marrow suppressed by rad Strontium, in their blood that bleeds out from increased platelets, and worse - they've lost their hearts from being attacked by Cesium!
See Potrblog's latest update, in which the EPA gloss-over of this event will piss you off- well it did me anyway! Perhaps whoever wrote the article for the Univerisity of New Mexico was not a scientist. Potrblog rips the measurement comparisons that use a comparison of a 'banana radiation amount' as equivalent to the small amount of Americium and Plutonium. There's another problem with their summary of this event. It is stated that there was an alpha release noted on Feb. 11 AND on Feb. 16. Also, we have no idea if there has been any release inbetween those dates or after Feb. 16. The underground area is still considered 'hot' so workers are not allowed in yet to see what happened. There was a fire from a truck underground previously but no one is saying why they think this happened or if it can happen again - huge heads-up for people living in the area. The other problem is that the Americium and Plutonium amounts are given without stating the air measurement that was taken (should be CPM per cubed meter of air). The data is cherry picked as usual and written for simple minds. Jesse chides the engineers for their engineering abilities if in fact, they wrote the article summarizing the event. I suspect a non-scientist wrote it.
It turns out the most affected air filters were not picked up, so radiation counts are known for only certain areas around the plant - not the 'hot' underground vent area. I checked the EPA Radnet counts north of Carlsbad and indeed they show elevated beta counts while alpha counts are no longer shown on Radnet's public database so who knows. Btw, alpha particles are definitely carried by the wind. The idea that they are so heavy they 'don't go far' is not correct when they are vented in a plume of white smoke that lifts into the wind stream overhead the plant. Alpha particles ARE the tiniest of particles, perfectly capable of being picked up by wind and funneled north of the underground storage. Unless you touch plutonium dust and put it into your mouth or inhale it into your lungs, the next best way to get it is in 'fallout' from water or soil contamination and food/water. However, if it lands on your clothing or on the grass your pets roll in or is eaten by your cows, it's a problem if you have no idea that it is around, depending on the amounts. This was not a lightweight 'release' of plutonium. Potrblog challenges the engineers at UNM to EAT an equivalent 'banana's' worth of Americium and Plutonium dust and see what happens - just for fun of course since they say it does absolutely nothing in the amounts they state - :D The EPA, NRC, IAEA, associated nuclear university groups, and associated 'defense' related companies have lost a lot of credibility by sugar coating ANY nuclear radiation releases to the public by so-called 'reputable' scientists, oceanographers, and physicians (excepting the enlightened few who are desperately trying to wake people up).
The latency for radiation is s l o wwwww. Four to five years for thyroid, five years for leukemia, and 10-15 years for solid tumors. You only need one particle of alpha radiation in your lungs to be either walled off or isolated in a cyst or nodule or to cause cancer much later. Aside from the actual amounts of Am and PU isotopes, depending on the particular isotope, their decay includes many other isotopes that last long. For instance, Americium 241, a very heavy particle, is a manmade particle or 'actinide' (esoteric isotope) created by the University of Berkeley. It has a half-life of 432+ years and creates a five other alpha particles in it's decay which by themeselves emit gamma (not a ton of gamma)! We have tons of gamma particles already giving off the gift of energy willy-nilly in the environment so who needs more!? Strontium is the worst gamma emitter but that's part of the recent Fuku water release story (it will be Part 2 of the Death of the Pacific Ocean and fairly soon).
I would hope for more transparency about isotope releases in the U.S. or elsewhere, in REAL TIME, and for people to stop writing idiotic articles about bananas or dumbing down explanations about radiation particles. The radiation decay process is TRULY AMAZING, however, the doctors and dentists who spew the old 'it's just a small amount' means they are undeducated about radiobiology. There is no safe amount of radiation - period. To say that we are awash in radioactive particles from 1945 onward and look we're still here is nothing compared to future effects from the release from Fukushima. Within thirty years it's predicted we'll have 1 in 25 people with cancer. Cancer is a crappy way to depop. In fact cancer or early aging is a crappy way to live. Radiation associated death, while not proven due to plausible deniability from the inability to tie certain isotopes with actual organ or tissue failures (aside from ALL the STUDIES already done on radiation effects) is not a humane or effective way to keep populations low, given the mutations that double after the second generation of exposure and the extinction of larger animals that WILL occur as a result of water and air isotope saturation. Radiation associated death over a lifetime is rife with a 'thousand cuts' to DNA and healthy living tissues. My point here is that we don't NEED any more radiation in the environment unless you want to become a transhumanist version of KROTON or Goldfinger but more likely to become mutant human funguses. Day of the Trifids anyone, LOL?
We have seen NOTHING yet in regards to health effects from radiation - just wait. The effects of Chernobyl were not scheduled to be fully played out until 2016 but we went and DID IT AGAIN before we could assess the overall mortality rates since Chernobyl - pity- :(
Overall, these rad release events are a huge heads-up to me, about what a 'plasma burst' from the sun or supergalactic gamma event might do to life on the planet. Some think we are about a decade away from a total reset, that is, if we don't do it to ourselves first!
Thank you all for kindly letting me rant, a bit- :D
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Date: February 23, 2014 at 06:41:49
From: DebbyS/AbqNM, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
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The "good" thing is that east of the central mountain chain in New Mexico, the population to the north of the Carlsbad area isn't very large. I doubt the radiation rose up and over the mountains, which often do act as a barrier to cold fronts out of Canada. If the radiation continued to flow north and into Colorado, it could hit Colorado Springs, Denver, etc. To the west in Texas, not much east and north until Amarillo. I cannot report what local (Albuquerque) newscasts said about it as I rarely watch them any more except to get weather forecasts. I know the event(s) was covered, just not in what depth. Also, there was a big Stop WIPP campaign years ago that of course didn't work but did force various safety measures to be enacted, not that carelessness or greed [using cheap containers, lying about contents, etc.] can be easily mitigated that way.
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Date: March 08, 2014 at 17:08:20
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Deadly (alpha radiation fallout) Warning from Potrblog site |
URL: New Mexico's Nuclear Waste Site Releasing Massive Amounts of Banana's |
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There is some evidence that the radiation went NW and some to the East too. No one really knows (maybe EPA). I checked the radnet public query site that often, during a live event, turns off the monitors. I saw some elevation in Colorado monitors and further north but who knows the real figures. Potrblog has his own calculations about the release(s) and where they went on his YT vids. Harlan of Radnet posted a vid with an animation of the monitors for that day, suggesting the rads might've gone on the wind streams all the way to Washington. Meh, not so sure about that!
It's likely a continuing 'discrete amount' is getting out due to those filters which most likely don't filter out ALL the radiation. How they can change out filters without going down into the site, I don't know. They're supposed to be sending probes down to check it out soon. If it's too 'hot' underground, the filters are a bandaid at best. A fire in a site like that is a total nightmare. The site goes a 1/2 mile down. I sure wouldn't be comfortable living next to the place.
It turns out there's a manmade salt cavern turned to brine storage, created from an old oil field, that is a mile north of the WIPP plant. Not too smart a location I'd say- :/ Also, I read in same article:
'The town of Carlsbad, NM, is in danger of collapsing into the earth below due to the out-of-control dissolution of underground salt deposits.
"The cavern was formed over three decades," the AP writes, "as oil field service companies pumped fresh water into a salt layer more than 400 feet below the surface and extracted several million barrels of brine to help with drilling..'
http://bldgblog.blogspot.com/2009/11/salt-space-biospeleology.html
Not to worry, Dr. John Nail has got it all figured out in banana comparisons, LOL (see link, it's hilarious). BeautifulGirlByDana outdid himself (in humor) on this one. It's a grim topic but I got a laugh for a change.
I hope you get a laugh out of it!
The wind map at hint.fm/wind/ would show the real-time distribution of the smoke streams but like you say you have to know what layers the smoke got into, how far over the mountains they went, the wind speed, etc. Tricky business that so far, keeps everyone guessing and the uranium cabal in business.
I read somewhere else that the WIPP plant stores 'transuranic' waste which means heavier than usual contaminated sludge, clothing, equipment, etc. Transuranic rad waste is considered 'low level waste' but in fact the labeling of high or low in identifying radioactive waste refers to the processing of it, not how high or low the radiation levels are. In other words, low level waste, transuranic type, can have very high radiation levels. The way we name things in that industry is pretty whacked in terms of safety.
People say don't worry about Americium or Plutonium getting in your lungs 'cause it takes forever to create a cancer and get through the gut but it's decaying as it goes! If you inhale it your lungs will wall it off but cancer can occur by 15 years. They say it's 'safe' and doesn't go far but not if it's aerosolized and you happen to be standing in the jet stream for 30 minutes under a rad Ur cloud. Baking soda in water is supposed to be good for your bladder as anyone exposed does excrete Uranium or any type of rads ingested. The gut is more of a problem. Yes, it goes through the wall slowly but it's taken back into the body in the large gut, along with water. Taking a detox like Detoxinum (I think it's called) will attract and detox all the metals in your large gut and get it out (how much, not sure).
It's such a crap shoot, this nasty Uranium business. Better not to know about it? Well maybe. Better to not have to deal with companies and leaders who create toxic products and processes, as cheaply as possible, without any of the votes of people or animals. The stuff sticks on the ground FOREVER. I don't want to be checking for wind streams and where the storage sites are and what latest incidents occurred at which nuclear plant. It's all such a DRAG really. I'd rather hear the real figures, try to understand the truth and it's complexities than not know at all 'cause I think the rad business is not for sloppy, too idealistic, adventurous humans (aka chimps on steroids, LOL) to maintain. I don't believe in long term rad waste storage as any answer to rad waste management. Geologic confinement sounds nice on paper but not so hot in a natural disaster. This WIPP plant was not built that long ago. It was supposed to be safe and sound rad waste storage for a long long time - NOT!
The WIPP is definitely something to keep a watch on simply because like Fuku, it ain't over yet. I sure hope they'll figure something out soon but that depends on how 'hot' the site is now underground, after a bunch of barrels spilled their guts. Here's hoping the spilled contents don't trigger off another bigger problem.
Here's another interesting news site too (other geo topics too), I found looking around for salt cave information for NM: http://lasinkhole.wordpress.com/
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Date: February 21, 2014 at 05:58:56
From: 4YourConsideration, [DNS_Address]
Subject: EXCELLENT POST ! |
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A very excellent post Polydactyl. Eloquent.
You wrote, "I don't really even have words for what we've done. If these nuclear disasters are the results from our best thinking and social modus operandi, we were fuk'd all along. It's a prideful conceit that mankind is transcending our understanding---"
Yes, indeed. Our so-called-best-thinking. We have been "trained", the perfect word in my opinion. "TRAINED" to accept scientists as the "be-all-know-all" demi Gods they perceive themselves to be.
Do not ask questions. Accept only what we tell you. Anyone who questions anything is deemed an idiot, moron, stupid, dumb, and when that doesn't stop questioning minds, haul out the big guns... "a conspiracy theorist".
Lunacy delivered on a gilded silver platter with a PhD tag dangling off a the pinky finger of "a full-on-lacking" native intelligence "giant talking head". Scientists huddle in cloistered buildings, ... do not enter. A see witches circling a cauldron of poisonous brew.... "ah, my pretty... drink this,..
The only difference is that they buried the brew for later consumption.
This may explain why Dutchsince is getting off the chart readings on meters in St. Louis? Perhaps. I am not an " expert "... and the scientists who are astonishingly always so confident they know better, ... are being poisoned by their own colleagues,.. the "scientists".. best decisions!!!
How ironic. What goes around, comes around... talking heads, full of ego... eating their words, except those words are full of radiation.
Chuck scientists! Chuck arrogance that seems to overtake a degree and replace it with a massive dose of humble. Remain humble, especially when colliders could blow everything into a black hole, or burying active or inactive radiation... can we say "stupid"?
So, call me a conspiracy theorist. James in Port. loves doing that. Give him his chance again. Oh,... I know... personal attack. No, just knowing that some who work so hard to shut other people up... who question the pabulum we are force fed by ptb...
How to murder humanity, call it science, by, well, you-know-who...
Welcome to the world of insanity, shills, trolls, and probably paid ones.
Now, we are playing hard ball, and this game has a bad ending. No winners, and no doubt the scientists that might consider speaking up and blowing the whistles will be found with sudden attack of suicide by murder via their own peers, or ptb... but then, what do I know...?
Anyone wish a few conspiracy theorists had been making the laws that allowed these idiots to enact and create poisons that go beyond any conceived future outcome?
Oh, yah... scientists, they always know everything... and when they don't... never expect them to admit it. You'd have better chance with a snowball in hell...
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Date: February 23, 2014 at 02:23:49
From: Polydactyl in N.Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: EXCELLENT POST ! |
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Thank you! I feel your passion in being relentless to get people to understand how they are manipulated to think and act in the larger social context, especially regarding their health and all kinds of corporate and government practices that are not in the people's best interest. It's a VERY DAUNTING TASK to inform anyone of anything that goes against the grain of political authority and corporate scientists! The media have done a great job in information suppression while state and goobermint policies are decided by need-to-know quorums rather than by people's votes. The best interests of environment and people continues to be railroaded in favor of bad medicine, risky-dangerous technologies, and generally a desperate attempt to socially control all political governance and the direction that technology takes to support it.
It's hard not to be the angry whack when you know so much is hidden, while so many people are willing to appease any authority, suspend all critical thinking and evaluation of policies and guidelines that affect them, and allow people to decide the direction of their health and welfare, without a thought! We've become such an aggressive, destructive culture on the planet with corporations and military backing the forceful push of our ideas onto other cultures. We will not get away with this aggressiveness towards other people or against our own people forever.
At least opinions can still can be discussed in the U.S. although acting on those opinions becomes immediately more problematic, from social attacks to legal harassment, all manner of threats which attempt to keep a select few in charge. We've done so much damage, some days I think, how much more will we do on the planet before realizing we've lost the survival game by simply not speaking up, not informing ourselves?
How IS Obama going to protect his kids from radiation and complex health issues in the future? Does he care or is he threatened by even higher up political circles. Are we being run by old money gangs, thugs, and lawyers? How will anyone be able to protect anyone with corporations and governments locked into a nuclear shell game?
The more we disrespect the health of our population and the environment, the more we give over our power to authorities who in desperation will hang onto whatever survival we have left, by forcing who gets what, after the damage. The damages are going to be great from what we're seeing in technological failures that no goobermint will be able to hide behind as though they had nothing to do with it! People will be angry or sick and tired. It is up to all social and corporate leaders on the planet to turn around this train going off the cliff RIGHT NOW and for the people to at least TRY to understand more going on, than their own selfish interests in getting a piece of the 'pie.' If top level folks on the planet cannot come together to stop the planetary human habitat from seriously degrading, most of us will die from disease and starvation in a collapse of civilization I don't think anyone thinks will really happen! We have to be hopeful that people all the way up the alpha wolf chain, no matter what their self-appointed political status may be, will look into their mirrors and see themselves dying with everyone else, unless they come together to 'love this planet' as Helen Caldicott says, and to visualize only actions that improve the health of the planet and life. I do believe that if we are not able to detox our thinking, we will go the way of other larger animals from radiation and chemicals, unlike some bacteria, algae, sharks, etc. that have much longer experience on the planet adapting to extreme environmental changes. It is our choice what we do with the time we have left before we're buried in our waste. Does anyone 'GET IT' at top government and corporate levels though? Giving corporations and very rich people the keys to deciding the health of the entire planet is not working but maybe we are already too toxic (flight or fight thinking) to make the right decisions?
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Date: February 21, 2014 at 18:39:31
From: Poppie, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I've always wondered why all the nuclear stuff |
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is distributed all across the U.S. Just about every region has nuclear power plants, nuclear research areas, dumps, mothballed facilities -- each one continuing to need monitoring, guarding, care.
I've concluded that the Nuclear Power Industry and Government decided to spread out all this nuclear stuff so that they could control the whole country.
We'll have to work forever and continue to pay taxes, or they will threaten to abandon the facilities and let us all die from radiation..... They don't have to lift a finger to get people to line up and do what they are told ... just threaten to let the cooling pools go dry.....
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Date: February 22, 2014 at 23:43:54
From: Polydactyl in N.Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I've always wondered why all the nuclear stuff |
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Ya, this technology is pervasive isn't it!
What the pro-nuklar's don't realize is that anyone who holds nuclear energy as a 'playing card' is equally vulnerable to the lack of control over the technology. Illusions of grandeur and political megalomania schemes for power can NOT last forever, TG. We have not cracked the technology of waste neutralization other than 'burying it,' filtering it, or recycling it. That's all they've got for solutions? OMG. We want solutions that don't end up in the walls of our houses, dinnerware, or toothpaste and that don't explode underground or come up in our water faucets. Normally that would not be too much to ask of technology standards that prevent the worst disasters. Of course, giving corporations decision making powers over the direction of technology, what it can't and can't do, what it must consider in development and execution of products, leaves the REST OF US to be at the effect of a lack of standards and cheap, careless technology processes that we did not vote for or want. Most of Japan did not WANT nuclear plants in their country! The pressure of the aggressors in a world war convinced them they must go forward with the 'winners.' Do we still think we are 'winners' with what's happening now? I think not.
The veneer of control over the accumulation of waste is thin, to say the least, and likely to be ripped apart entirely when major earth changes occur. Last century's solutions are not working! We see this in this WIPP plant and the LA sinkhole from use of salt domes to store these godawful fluids and in fracking contamination of groundwater and who knows in what else. The solutions for rad waste are only short term considering the hundreds of years that isotopes take to decay.
This is what happens when a very dangerous material becomes the hottest global 'tender' on the planet, run by ruthless politicians who hope to gain absolute social control by possessing it's power. Symbolically, I think nuclear power is much more of a symbol for personal power, social aggression/persuasion, and destruction, rather than it's use for fueling energy for the sudden growth of energy hungry, global populations. Last night I read that the recent banker deaths might be related to 'yellow cake' stock failures and that Wall Street is very much tied into the global, nuclear money tree - it figures! Otherwise, why would we continue multiplying the odds of risk to humans and life by continuing to process uranium and pass it around between governments, pile up accumulations of waste we could never use or get rid of, and continue to sloppily maintain plants that are falling apart over only 40 years time? This is INSANE unless a paranoid, desperate global group are dependant on the money and power it gives for as long as they can ride the nuclear rocket. They could pull this off (and did pull it off, alas) ONLY if they placed nuclear technology under the aegis of 'defense' leadership controls and only if they had total control of the media and military to make sure that not one 'bad word' came out about radiation, it's ill health effects, or it's costly inefficiency (including the huge oil footprint required to process the damned stuff)! I could be totally wrong but I think the 'oil kraken' will and is causing the first worldwide, planetary habitat and life destruction on the planet, followed by the 'nuclear kraken,' which will finish it off - Ack!- :/
They key is to get to the global leaders, movers and shakers, doctors (oh, especially those friendly, empathic beings who know SO LITTLE about radiation effects on a global scale), and associated professionals who understand the chemistry, biology, and physics of ionizing radiation to make a HARD TURNAROUND on a technology that will kill everything on the planet, long before we've figured out what ELSE we can use for our energy needs as a planet of 7 billion strong attempts to replicate itself at even faster rates. I think we've outgrown our social paradigms for world domination but the plans for an n.w.o. is NOT a friendly new paradigm that's going to work given the old global nuclear order and social engineers of the last war, still in place. There has to be a sudden change of heart, at top level, of people in power who understand the problem with unmitigated, accumulated radiation waste on the planet and who KNOW that we have to turnaround all our thinking about how and what energy populations will use and clean up what we've done, OR ELSE.
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Date: February 24, 2014 at 10:12:24
From: Poppie, [DNS_Address]
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