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Date: January 11, 2014 at 17:55:08
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: btw ... when's last time you heard anything about Fukushima on MSM?

URL: http://enenews.com


not even the so-called "alternative progressive media" websites make mention of it

whatreallyhappened is my only source for news

and that usually comes from enenews.com


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Date: January 12, 2014 at 23:01:52
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: btw ... when's last time you heard anything about Fukushima on...


What I'm wondering now is how long until the Pacific Ocean DIES? Uranium flowing out forever? This means that the corium is in the aquifers under the plant and flowing out to sea. Good gawd, we're next I figure. Meanwhile Ob authorizes 3 more plants to be built in the U.S. The damage and suffering to the animals breaks my heart.

Ya can't fix stupid, apparently. Sometimes I think it's time to start wishing for the supergalactic wave, hmmm, to offset the human 'ugly' that's coming from an 'almost extinction' event.


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Date: January 13, 2014 at 17:03:36
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: as near as i can tell there is a wide range of scenarios

URL: http://youtu.be/CI_KExaudxk


all of them very bad ... and some are even worse ... and there's no way to put the djinn back in the bottle

this video is so dire i hesitate to post it ... it's a thumbnail sketch ... a collage of many elements ... view it at your peril ... it's ruined my afternoon

Helen Caldecott is old ... and old people are sometimes less prone to spin or bullshit ... i think she's shooting straight from the hip

i don't see any of us "regular folks" getting out of this alive ... unless you have a special secret hidey-hole somewhere ... and even that is NOT going to save the "special people" who will seek refuge there



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Date: January 18, 2014 at 01:04:23
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: as near as i can tell there is a wide range of scenarios


Thanks for the post- :) I'm ready to face the reality, not that we're going to be able to IGNORE it much longer! I remember the first time I heard about the seals, then the sea lions, then the whales. I relayed it to people as 'ain't it awful' 'no truth in the radiation readings for the animals' etc. Then I was going to talk to someone about the whales not being seen off B.C., way before the masses of dolphins and whales were offshore and the conjoined whales were found off Baja bleeding from the mouth and eyes. When I entered the room to tell, I stuttered something about the whales and then burst into tears. I felt like a little beach kid again who just found out all the tide pools were dead because humans picked them clean. It really gets to me 'that' much probably because I KNOW we're next, that it means starvation, a whole lot of dying from assorted conditions, kids getting diseases early or in utero, and a scarcity of clean water. Ya know, a regular science fiction nightmare, lol.

Did you read about all the high school students who've suddenly died in Fukushima? It's going to be a bloody massacre there soon while the doctors are told not to inform anyone they are dying of radiation poisoning. How incredibly SICK and perverted some who call themselves leaders. In Japan there's a call for TEPCO to publically tell who is pressuring them to cover up radiation information. So far, the hidden piece of this nightmare is that the global bankers are pushing the Japanese over the nuclear cliff (violence and threats, probably) in order to beat 'viability' into their now depressed economy. The global bankers and 'the few most powerful' elite on the planet are insisting Japan go down hard, with everyone else right behind them.

Also, I have heard that Japan's nationalism really got in the way in the beginning. Many countries offered help and chemicals and zeolite, boron etc. but the Japanese military said 'NO.' I know now that any so-called nwo is nothing but a totalitarian grab of the elite on the planet, otherwise they'd have made the 'right' global decisions to hit Fuku HARD right at the beginning, while they had a tiny chance of stopping the subduction of corium under the plant. The U.S. is Japan, I'm convinced. We are China and Russia too (aside from the usual spats). We are all in this together but no one wants to see 'the naked emperor(s)' and 'elephants' in the room. Our old energy solutions are not working.

Why did not one country come forward and say, hey, if we don't DO something, we're all DEAD in twenty years? As a precedent for all the other U.S. reactors likely to melt down in the near future, from forty years of from metal degradation existent, Fukushima was a total failure for any semblance of a serious (global) disaster response. We'd rather point fingers and jockey for the best 'business outcome.' On the global field, our ship moves forward in a non-survivable direction, without anyone at the helm. I can't sugarcoat what's happening at this point but I'm betting a whole lot of people won't notice the dying around them. It's simply too painful to acknowledge. It's going to be very interesting to say the least to watch what happens to people's resolve to work together as more and more people become aware of the results of this disaster. The passivity may surprise all of us, especially the passivity of the global elite, aside from all the stories about bankers going underground into their bunkers or retiring who knows where? I agree that they are not going to get away with anything more than anyone else. Hey maybe they are the ones who've scooped all the ormus online- :D Eventually, the elite will know they've been had too. Late in the day, the empathic sorrowful masses will not be able to put Humpty Dumpty back together again. And then, things will get worse when what's left of scarce food and water becomes a competitive free for all --enter surveillance and militarism. I do not begin to know what to tell a new family what to expect or how to prepare for the next ten-fifteen years. Putting up a big pink bubble of pain-free protection around yourself and toning Aum's might help for awhile but not for long, methinks. Considering an old source, if people new what was being planned, there'd be a revolution (no details but stated as fact).

Someone should take all of what's happened in the last fifty years and write a historically correct (as much as can be discerned) sci-fi story out of it, to see how and when the story ends, if there might be a twist or a fix rather than abject panic. As for hope, there is some technology out there to decontaminate water (ALPS?) and some inventive scientists are trying to get tritium out of water and stop the decay of radiation. Alas, the Pacific Ocean can't wait for new development strategies to clean up radiation or plastic out of the ocean or rocket crud out of the satellite orbits around earth.

It seems our priority now is to do whatever it takes to create the illusion of safety and survivability, nevermind any truth or total systems analysis. There's that joke that 'a lie will go around the world twice before truth gets it's pants on,' lol. We seem to have no real way to stop producing chaos or know how to prioritize survival when we've outstepped our growth capacity Human goals overall seem limited to 'GO PROCREATE!' for as long as possible and to support life for the short run only. There's no 'instinct' to survive en masse in any kind of ecological integration or without taking unmanageable risks. Tribes handled local problems much better.

I think we have a lot of technology capability only it's too slow to develop, we're not flexible, and possibly not intelligent enough, en masse, to render new solutions to our very old 'predatory' lifestyle that wastes wastes wastes and can't see the whole picture falling apart from shoving all the problems onto someone or something else. We're like Gorillas in the forest. Once we've shat up the place, we move on until we can't move any longer. I think for now, I've given up on the '1000th monkey' idea, that by some miracle 'the right thing' will happen as a result of all our visoning, thinking, actions, and results. How's that working for us now?

I'll get back on the vid- :) Thanks for listening. I started a short reply and I'm still here a half hour later - good gawd! I'm seeing the T-shirt message worn by an old friend, 'Dear God, please help me keep my big mouth shut, LOL.'


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Date: January 18, 2014 at 10:09:58
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the release of PLUTONIUM rings the death knell for the earth (NT)


(NT)


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Date: January 12, 2014 at 10:43:01
From: DebbyS/AbqNM, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: btw ... when's last time you heard anything about Fukushima on...


Tomm Hartmann has guests on speaking about it from time to time (his reports are found in MsMilky's and other YouTube posters' reports). I imagine Democracy Now talks about it, but I'm in no position to listen at this time. RT (I think it's "Russia Today"?) covers it.

John Wells on Coast 2 Coast has done quite a few shows on the topic. I'm sure Mike Malloy has mentioned it, but it is hard to find his radio show locally; if it is on at all it is on too late for me.

But I agree that no mainstream media outlet that most folks in the USA watch is likely to carry anything on Fukushima or other similar dangers. Or anything *truthful*, that doesn't prop up the NRC and doesn't sing love songs to pro-nuke forces. The thought that people might stop buying sponsor products must scare the media moguls and make them clutch their wallets even more closely than they do their own children.


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Date: January 12, 2014 at 13:09:10
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: i know otherwise bright people fooled by "radiation" assuances


a woman i know tells my wife that "radiation levels are low" ... so what ... the HOT PARTICLE she might ingest from her tuna will not show up on a detector ... but it sure will raise havoc with the cells local to where it's embedded in her tissues ... it will be ignorance that kills many


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Date: January 12, 2014 at 13:05:13
From: horst graben, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: even Arnie Gundersen has proven dimwitted on the seafood issue

URL: http://enenews.com/gundersen-im-not-eating-pacific-ocean-fish-bioaccumulation-of-fukushima-nuclear-waste-concerning-radiation-effects-are-actually-worse-at-low-levels-than-predicted-video


he just recently announced that he no long eats seafood from the Pacific Ocean ... well duh ... Arnie ... get a clue ... it's all the oceans that are ... or will be ... contaminated


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