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Date: October 06, 2013 at 15:36:11
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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I'm stunned this topic isn' at the top of the list here on this forum...I guess it'll be up to me.
Helen Caldicott on Nicole sanders show last month.
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Date: October 08, 2013 at 07:35:21
From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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It is on my mind. A lot. No denying.
Often to the point that I must deflect attention to other things lest go into utter panic/depression/fury mode. Deflection keeps my little world operating on dailies and future.
Planning for and looking to the future must continue no matter what.
That's my way of coping.
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Date: October 19, 2013 at 01:13:30
From: Eve in FL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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Not much else to do. Keep on going and think this may be for naught,
but if I don't do so and so then I may be at odds with that. It's quite
contrary at times.
I felt the same way about it also chatillion, that it was the THIS IS IT! but
when it is...hard to say.
I posted about the Oil Spill recent news to above in the GOM you may be
interested...like Fukishima...it's the same level as at the start...or????
~Eve
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Date: October 07, 2013 at 09:32:43
From: dreemz, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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This was posted on FB today, Oct. 7th on the "Fukushima Diary" FB group...
According to Japan Meteorological Agency, Typhoon No.24 “Danas” is going to hit Fukushima plant area on 10/10/2013.
Currently it’s near Okinawa. It’s heading for North East Japan at 30km/h. The central pressure is 935 hPa. Meteorological Agency states “Very strong”.
Since mid September, Tepco has had the contaminated water tank area overflow every time a Typhoon passed near the plant.
Typhoon Danas to hit Fukushima plant on 10/10/2013 / “Very strong” | Fukushima Diary
fukushima-diary.com
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Date: October 07, 2013 at 09:38:45
From: dreemz, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
URL: http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/ |
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Here is the latest link
http://www.jma.go.jp/en/typh/
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Date: October 19, 2013 at 01:17:17
From: Eve in FL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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Sure is active. One after another...if I am reading it proper.
~Eve
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Date: October 07, 2013 at 00:21:01
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
URL: Fear and Loathing on Fukushima Unit 4 SFP (Plume-Gate) |
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Hattiesdad, thanks for the vid! Whew, Caldicott knows more about radiobiology than many, up close and personal given she specialized in cerebral palsy? cystic fibrosis and other children's problems she suggested are likely due to radiation caused genetic mutations! The mutations get ugly starting with the grandchildren of first time,, ongoing low dose or short exposures (depends on isotopes and mitigating factors too).
I gave up posting about this topic for awhile myself because 1) I was so frustrated about what's happened and no one wants to hear someone 'screaming' all the time, and 2) some people really don't want to hear about what's happening and what's coming, let alone do they want to stop eating their salmon- :) First it was the swordfish from mercury and overfishing and now the salmon- dang dangit'all. Honestly, anyone eating Pacific fish today is jeopardizing their health. Also, both the U.K. and U.S. (Thailand and others) are eating Fukushima foods, surprise surprise (TY Hillary, I hope you eat your words, ya hear!).
Recently someone said that 'taking a vacation in Hawaii now, is suicide!' I said 'wut'? Surely things can't be 'that' bad. At some point, however, people will say, what the heck, all bets are off on survival anyway, so do what you want to do, eat what you want to do, and party like there's no tomorrow, in the rain! Can't say I blame them, it just depends on what's going on with you and figuring out what you can/ can't or want/ don't want to do. Unlike Benjamin Fulford, who says REALLY, there's no radiation now in Japan where I am, 'SEE' my meter reading from the air I just stuck my hand up in- reading is LOW, not HIGH. That Fulford takes one reading and says 'no fear' here is ludicrous. Alas, the latency of body response to radiation is slow enough for many not to see, although their eyes are open, and many will not process the totality of radiation contamination on the planet, despite they can hear the words just fine. I blame the slow response in demanding real-time, truthful and accurate, rad information, on the nucleocrat shills, who are everywhere, in the 'Feinstein approved' mainstream media and on the web too.
I was OK with San Francisco getting 45-65 CPM of beta last year but now it's up to 180-200cpm SUSTAINED. Montana, Colorado, a lot of the northern U.S. border, Arizona, San Diego, show really big spikes and I mean big, like 300-700cpm (cts/ min), for days! Only Cesium 137 geigers are being used when recent summer activity of fuel removal and typhoons are likely putting alpha isotopes in the air, along both north and south jet stream (SF/ LA/MX) cities directly in the jet streams (no word on 'other' isotopes as the contamination increases!). Where it rains, all the bets are off on amounts and isotopes coming down, anywhere USA. The spiking has been horrendous since mid-August all across the U.S., with reported increases at Fukushima and Tokyo, and rads are quickly accruing in the southern Japan islands too.
Caldicott said recently that she doesn't think anyone can fix this. There's another typhoon Danas headed towards Japan now. Japanese officials are screaming for help but it's likely no one will be able to figure out what to do about tanks leaking, mountain water flooding the basements, seawater now coming in through broken silt berms, and melted corium possibly off the coast. I saw a horrible report on the demise of shelled animals along the seafloor near the Japan coast. All shelled animals are in great peril, likely to be cooked in their shells outright if not burdened with lesions. It's kuh-razy what's going on there!
I cringe when I see the workers on top of R4. The upcoming R4 fuel removal (what's left of it) is another looming disaster. Hatrick Penry has a scathing R4 vid and shows in FOIA documents that it's very clear: Pellets were strewn all over R4 after R3 exploded, that under-structures of the spent fuel pool were twisted and walls blown out, were blasted, partial meltdown is a given, and subsequent rad isotopes from R4 already gone up in steam and smoke to circle the planet. Senator Wyden backed this up when he visited Fuku earlier this year. He looked into R4 to see a jumble of metal. The 'pool' is more likely now a man-made pond with melted metal in a number of places on all floors and was blown outside the reactor too. 'Penry' shows estimates that 500 out of 1700 rods were left in very bad shape, soon after the explosions in March, 2011 and later in several fires. This means when they do try to remove R4 fuel in November, there will more criticality of fuel expected, even another 3-11 is possible!
The situation is so BAD it's hard to fathom for the gravity of what's happened and the continuing rad spewage, for anyone, especially those who are more 'organically' inclined and those who've actively sought balance in an aggressively bold, American leadership style that leaves little doubt now, that nucleocrats have been in control since WWII. All the promises of safety, maintenance of waste products, and efficiency cost of energy technology, are failing, in toto, at this time. Fukushima is returning Hiroshima and Nagasaki full circle to the source.
It's unlikely we will be able to clean up what we've done to the ocean and atmosphere, let alone fix human and animal genomes, in the next 200 hundred years. Heck we're gonna have trouble finding a place to bury all the radiated this's 'n that's. There's a more likely chance that life will degrade in longevity, health, and genetic mutations for everything alive, for many thousands of years, until the worst rad isotopes, Cesium and Strontium, finally stop emitting energy. There's a good chance that an E.L.E. will occur with solar flares, EMP, plants losing cooling due to degraded metal parts and/or by human error, to create an unintended, nuclear chain reaction - a destroyer of worlds situation.
India, China, and Iran are as crazy/stupid as we are, by following in our footsteps. WE set up these models (Hitler almost got there before us) so we should be the first to break them down and replace our energy systems while we can. Only the Germans and Russia seem to have a clue. The French are hopelessly in love with radiation, like the U.S., not sure why we are so adamant on killing ourselves? The caveat to the whole nuclear technology was to permit time to find a way to contain rad waste or not continue. You can see how well these 'future action items' are supported, once money starts flowing to the global few. You think the nucleocrats are crazy like the public who support their efforts? Well, their handlers are even crazier more like pathologic control freaks who actually think they can not only 'handle' radiation, they can 'control' populations with it! Haahahahahahaa. I wonder how their eating monoatomic gold is working out for them now? Silly humans- ;)
Even if we find a way of shortening the half-life cycle of the 200+ isotopes let out of the Fukushima 'bag' alone, the amount in the ocean precludes there being much of a 'fix.' I fully expect the background to become at least 400CPM, sustained, along the West Coast, as Fuku continues spewing. Plus you have a backlash of gamma ray release, as the decay process moves out in time (just think, 'multiple tumors irradiated at once- WoW! Oh rats, the patient died.)
When you look at the combination of Fuku, Hanford, and several plants back East in dire straits, one can only imagine how bad this will get in terms of ocean-to-air, ground water, and soil contamination. People will not be the wiser until they are personally affected by radiation sickness symptoms. Ya might as well get familiar with the symptoms- ;) I have no doubt symptoms will be more evident on the West Coast by the end of next year, as in, visible and talked about. Info from hospitals/neonatal cancer statistics, radiation-like symptoms noted in private practice, fearful public rants about hair falling out or blistered skin, all those are are likely to be suppressed from publication, ignored, or omitted from public knowledge altogether. Nuclear failures are too big to admit because ultimately we do not have control of the nuclear plant for energy process/waste and it is VERY expensive from mining to storing the waste. We've had too much of a 'good thing' already, so let's stop now, eh?
No one is testing food on the West Coast, at least not for the public to see, with our allowance of 1200Bec's./kg likely to go up. When you hear the rad allowances go UP for food, buy a meter, or else suffer. Alaska is now taking seriously the fish contamination and testing which means it's getting close to being revealed outright, that Pacific fish is now highly radioactive, i.e., like playing Russian Roulette when eating salmon or tuna. (This fishy has a lot of radiation, this fishy has a little less, and this fishy has, OH MY GOD, NOOOOOooo!- :D)
The public has not seen ONE official study of seals or fish, soil, or water measurements of Plutonium/Cesium in the last year. The Japan 'event' was considered 'done,' 'over'- finito. Rad figures are rounded off, decimals deleted (I caught one of these on blackcat systems accidentally), and isotopes like Plutonium in water or air, NOT REPORTED. First it was reported that nothing much really happened, then maybe a little something but it's better now, then we learned there were long term problems we can do nothing about, so get on with your lives, not worth mentioning. As long as you don't blame any of your symptoms or changes in behavior or quality of life on the nucleocrats and pro-nuked officials, you are fine, right? Not really. In the end, someone always says, 'there's nothing we can do and if we are dying from Fukushima (albeit slowly), then why bother being angry? Mourn, eat, drink, and live fully, as long as you can!' Only one problem with that, it let's all the 'perps' off the hook, it let's teh allowance of the nuclear problems to continue, it permits constant lies by omission and suppression of news, it allows no truth to be reported that might change this path to destruction, no apologies, no mitigation suggested, no concern for children (just pay up your Obamacare for future health issues no one will be able to pay for) only 'don't blame your local rep' for the last 50 years of 'a little radiation is good for you,' 'look what great things it's done for tumors,' and 'what would we do without it's energy?' I guess it's really OK with the PTB that the human genome is being taken apart and heck, they won't see their granchildren's children with birth defects, and btw, it will kill a lot of people before their time, never mind the suffering of health issues for the ones that live.
I'm so angry about what we've done, not just to humans but all the animals, everywhere. The next ocean 'kraken' will be Ginormous Jellyfish that will attack all humans dare they get next to the shoreline! Animals in Fuku are now very radiated and they are pissed! People are being attacked by dogs pigs cows anything that gets near them now. The animal mutations happening right now in Fuku are not being reported. The quickest mutations are seen with high radiation and short life cycles, then it slows from there, with large animals taking a huge brunt of non-recyclable mutations, maiming from vascular insufficiency, infections, disease, early aging and/or death.
The Japanese government appears to have been our b*tch and complied flawlessly in suppressing information. Now that's not working as many people in Tokyo are getting heavy nosebleeds. Rad symptoms are very obvious when they start occurring en masse, at some higher point of bioabsorption. Eventually you can't stop the hemorrhage of truth because it's in your face - some will try though, lol. There will be much reporting of new diseases, bacteria, and viruses killing off species but the underlying immunity killer is radiation and over time a toxic metallic load (various metals already a problem) will be distributed on the planet. Add a warming ocean and chemicals and 'oi vay.'
Fukushima is the new 'breakthrough event' of the century but not in a good way- :(
See Hatrick Pentry's 'Fear & Loathing on Fukushima Unit 4 SFP' presentation. The NRC, IAEA, and UNSCEAR all knew early on, the breadth of this disaster. I always said they shut down the info and continue to do so because it's very very bad news that entails 3 total meltdowns with entire cores liquefied and 1 partial meltdown (R4). We haven't heard squat about R5 or R6 in a long while or about damage caused to a number of other Japanese reactors because of the quake. A full accounting is likely to be, beyond grim, for the Japanese, the Koreans, the Taiwanese, China, and the N.A. continent where most of the off-gassing and radiated water will settle first and last, off the coast of Baja and Mexico from upwelling.
Video at link, by MsMilkytheclown. Bless her for her compassion and persistence in reporting on the global nuclear disaster, along with many others who relentlessly pursue truth despite their anger and sinking feeling nothing is going to get done, let alone be talked about OPENLY among the PTB and officials.
Hatrick's presentation. It's not easy pulling all those documents! It takes conviction over time that the truth is worth telling, to request and pull out the evidence of what really happened, bit by bit. TG for all his hard work!
http://hatrickpenryunbound.com/?p=3928
Thanks for letting me vent and listening. Let me know if there's anything you are doing different, post 3-11, or are planning to do in the future, if 'fallout' gets much worse in the near future? I'm still waiting to see if either Arnie or Helen will end up back in Australia. Maybe they too will 'give up' on saving themselves but I wonder what it will take for them to move elsewhere from the East Coast, where the radiation stations on netc.com's daily measurements do not look good these days! (They may be fudging California 'cause the East Coast looks worse and I can't figure that one out yet..)
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Date: October 09, 2013 at 18:50:50
From: Eve in FLower land, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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scuse me, I did not read really as I aught to, will later...but yeah they
want to radiate everything and too much and never get to see the
pics...but oh, you got cavity....I do? where? and take a pic of ones belly
in ER, never hear result, but eat breakfast and next thing I know they
trying to put a scope down my throat. I am like ya'll trying to kill me?
New hospital and all, everyone had a cart with a computer on it. Yet all
the wires were crossed. Glad I was paying attention.
Anyway, what if Fuki unites with Cher then unites with with Fermilab in
US and CERN in Europe?
What kinda planet will it be then? BZZZZT Radiation red alert to the
max.
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Date: October 10, 2013 at 01:13:05
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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What kinda planet will it be then? At that point, our sun will have grown great big wings that will reach out and smack us up the side of our heads, lol- ;)
Good catch in the hospital! Some hospitals have a physician that follows all the ER patients, to make sure they get to the right places, coordinate with all the specialists, and explain all the details to the patient. Otherwise, ask questions non-stop, be the squeeky wheel if something doesn't feel right, and if in serious doubt about procedures, never forget, you can ALWAYS JUMP OFF THE TABLE, hightail it outta there, and and decide what you want to do another day!
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Date: October 16, 2013 at 02:16:29
From: Eve in FL, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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Yeah, I was thinking may split us four ways...and the sun pop out of the
Earth.
About the ER to the floor for night...it went sorta like you say, but not
also. Place only open a year and I guess huge as it was had some kinks.
I like your style on that jump off the table, better still I was not gonna let
them get me on it! I was like what's the hurry..? why not outpatient, half
the cost. I saw my reg doc as they asked and he said you don't need it.
Shocked the little group that was doing the coordinating so I got a
discount for I needed not see a few of those folks I got charged for.
~Eve
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Date: October 08, 2013 at 07:37:27
From: chatilli8on, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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Wow!
Thank you, Polydactyl.
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Date: October 07, 2013 at 22:40:34
From: terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima.Hi Polydactyl Thank you for your homework on |
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this subject,I have posted several times that a
Scientist on Coast to Coast has said that the USA
is by far in the most Danger from Fuka--he says that
very little of it is now falling on Japan--but nothing
to celebrate for them either as they got the brunt of
it right when i first happen!!!He also said that NO
fish is edible any more--That is devastating to me
because i am a vegetarian who eats small amounts
of fish!My Daughter also feeds my Grandson fish
almost every day (talapia and swai)and even tho
they say on the package that they come from
Mexico it doesn't make them safe!Thank you SO much
for your post and all of the research you did in order
to post this info!I Am impressed!
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Date: October 09, 2013 at 17:48:46
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima.Hi Polydactyl Thank you for your homework on |
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Thks terra11! The responses here mean a lot to me. I tried to find a 'Fuku concern' group in my local area by sending them an email. There's one in Berkeley but that's too far for me right now. Turns out the Fuku part was tacked onto a local 'Occupy' group. Then I heard they were tackling too many issues (people about to be thrown out of their house due to mortgage payments etc.) so the Fuku issue maybe went by the wayside. Never got a reply. If people don't come together to try and influence any mitigation techniques for farming, keeping drinking water safe etc, figuring out what they could do locally, then it's going to be a dead issue. The rads will do what they want to do: disassemble, destroy, and deform (ugh).
I look every day on the jet stream charts and many times, the jet stream is right overhead or worse, where the rads tend to settle out faster, on the edges of the jet stream. Bay Area is likely super-fuk'd but Kern County and growing areas are in big trouble too (not sure why rads 'pocket' there). To see our fresh veggies and fruits and wines and fish go down the drain is just toooo much. I love fish too having grown up near a very fresh, non-fishy fish supply- :) The factory farming finally is getting to me. I don't want to eat but a little meat! On top of all our other problems this will likely make things so much worse for health and businesses along the entire Pacific Coast. Over time, it's hard to imagine just 'how much' more fallout we're going to get, beyond what everyone is getting in the upper atmosphere! Daily, Fuku is still spewing 100,000's of varied isotopes into the jet stream, for worldwide distribution. The water is eventually going to get into the Indian Ocean. No one is going to get away with just a little radiation over time, since I don't think they can fix the pluming and pouring out. So sad to think of how quickly life changes for humans. Our time is precious on the planet in any case and now so much more! For me it's a weight on my head, first that the radiation is so increased and will climb, that my ocd thinks about where the hotspots are and what vegetable I should be eating. Actually I should be totally hands-off on the subject since I'm not working, don't have great options to move around, buy a geiger, etc. I'm having trouble enjoying salads now which was my favorite thing, in the old days, with tuna and a fresh dressing...sigh. I wouldn't trust the Mexican stuff either, veggies or fish. The contaminated water from Fuku deposits directly on the doorstep of Baja and Mexico in that southern ocean stream, along with the southern wind stream bringing some of the 'event' loads too. Mexico is getting less in general than NorCal, pretty sure except San Diego always has high readings on different charts!
Fuku'd fish will mean the vegetarians will eat more beans I guess and 'combine' foods better. If your grandson is eating fish every day, that will be a big change for him. What a good kid that likes fish so much! Maybe liquid amino acids can help? That we all get so little nutritional training in education is pathetic. I know the health group on EB are real experts on the nutritional food scene and it's now more important than ever to figure out what you can do, that is, BARRING another big Fuku kaboom. The November fuel plucking doesn't make sense now that I know how risky it is. I say, if you can stop a big rad plume from flying overhead, by all means, stop ANY risky business or actions that lead to it! :D
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Date: October 07, 2013 at 11:54:19
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Wow, that was quite the post! |
URL: http://guymcpherson.com/2013/10/climate-chaos-in-four-minutes-a-video-update/ |
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Thanks so much for the links and the thoughtful words...
It would take me a week to write something that long, I'm a terrible typist.
Interesting that Hatrick Penry's nickname is Hattie, I am not his father,I assure you.
What have I done differently since 3/11? Not much.
I'm the sole provider for my disabled wife and way too many critters, so I'm poor. There is no way we could afford to move to South America or safer places.We are thinking of getting out of debt the hard way (bankruptcy)and walking away from our house in New Mexico.(For numerous reasons not limited to the double homicide next door...) We could save enough money on my income for a move somewhere...I'm thinking Idaho. Don't know why.
I think now is the time to start enjoying life, what's left of it. I've always wanted to have a used bookstore, maybe that's what I'll do.(Lord knows I could open one now with all the books I have, Yes I'm a book hoarder :)
Right now I work way too hard with way too many hours, and get very little enjoyment out of my spare time because I'm so tired. That has to change.
All that said, if Fuku does go pear shaped, nothing I can do about it. So sharing love with family and friends and critters and nature is all that is really left.
Guy McPherson (Climate guy) sums it up nicely in 4 minutes at link.
Best, HD.
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Date: October 09, 2013 at 16:00:16
From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Wow, that was quite the post! |
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Thank you so much for your reply! I love Guy's work! He's the BALM, man- :) The despair IS and WILL BE GREAT. Guy's vids should be required for all levels of education (add it to civics maybe- ;) and any level, earth science courses. The importance of the 'systems' interactions on planet earth and the small but growing influence humans are having as their crude technology breaks, prods, and poisons the eco-cycles on the planet, is so suppressed by politics and corporate finance schemes. I want to view all the vids! Maybe I could promote them to local HS groups, who knows? The urgent message about impending Fuku/the R.O.W. nuclear plant status (not to mention the whereabouts of all the rad waste) and the urgent methane extinction message, with 12 out of 23 irreversible processes in this cycle triggered since 2010? - oh my, not good- :( Like Guy says, we have this tiny little window to move in, until the predicted 2040 date when all the animals, marine and land and air will likely be dead or dying from inhospitable ecosystems. Whew. It's so important to get this out to educators and companies that give a damn. Forty years is so little time for the rat wheels of man's mind to turn around anything. It's worth a shot though- :D Alas, our understanding and maintenance of the ecosystem balance is so rudimentary, so suppressed, so lacking in intelligent education. It should be First Priority, not last or in the middle depending on who can save a buck on cheap dirty or primitive technologies that squash ecosystems mostly by production of toxic to life WASTE.
Sorry to hear about your NM situation. It's a difficult place to live. After a year hiatus from the Bay Area, jumping around NM like a fool trying to find work and eating Indian chili at every 'Res,' I decided it was too rough. Oh my, the jobs I was offered, haha, unreal but likely I would've failed at all of them. Many people go to the 'Land of Enchantment' for retiring or getting away from it all. Retirement in NM is difficult to maintain, with high service charges and not much cash to go around, unless you've got an int'l customer base. Sounds like you've got the best setup for suviving in NM! Problem is the housing now is so difficult to hang onto and even if you own it outright, costs can be extreme in outlying areas.
Too bad people can't opt out for living as several families under a couple of roofs, as a group buying into living in those areas long term. Of course, the model could change to include people who don't necessarily want to farm but by exchange they are still an integral part. It would be impossible probably to expect that people will be able to go back to bartering for goods and services in any major shutdown.
A used bookstore is a great idea if you're in an area that doesn't use the Internet for everything (and they do exist!). I miss all the great used bookstores in SF. They pretty much all went down hard in the last 2008 recession dump. When I went to NM someone stole some of my UPS shipment with my Circelot book of symbols. I hope they're happy with it- :/ You can tell I had some good experiences and bad experiences in NM. It's a mixed bag and will eat up 'yer money quick. The trades seemed to do better there but not always. I hope and pray these goofballs in our gov' will not do another 2008. If they default, I will KNOW they both conspired to do exactly that and extract the people's money for some urgent agenda of their own (or at least, not publicized). The politics are so UGLY at this point, that tea party'rs or any repubs think that taking down the entire economy is the only way to go, why, they must have a lot of money to feel so protected from a dollar crash. Not to mention they will all be summarily fired by 3rd party write in's in the next election, oh yeah. Too much money = too much influence on very personal decisions that people should make on their own. The gov frameworks seem to get tighter and tighter squeezing people interests out and muscling each other in power plays. I'm surprised there aren't more fist fights in the Congress and Senate meetings! I think people should vote on what is going to affect every livelihood or not, in the nation. The Executive branch versus the Senate versus the house versus the people fights is not leadership, especially with backside corporate and private money control so strong. So much money manipulated at the top without representation or participation at the bottom. Sux.
I hear you on sharing with family and friends and critters in spite of 'whatever' will actually happen, besides the drama and worry about sudden change without a net or house to sit in, in the meantime. I love what Guy says about treating the planet and ourselves as if it's in hospice. We are all in hospice on a dying planet and it's NO JOKE. We've got to 2040 or sooner, depending on the remaining methane processes we trigger and/or nuclear plants running amok' for any number of reasons. Hard to believe. I was pretty sure about the methane problems (the sea dragon awakes methought) but now I know it's very real. Getting the word out, how you couch the issues and current solutions, how you influence people in leadership roles to get out of their spheres of influence (and EGOS) to take an objective look at what's going on, without good science education in early grades, with military and clueless hangers' on to special interest preferences, we do look 'ALMOST BOILED' - Grribit.
Thank you!
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Date: October 06, 2013 at 22:19:33
From: Polly,AZ, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
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There were discussions for a long time after it first happened in 2011 and there are still at least a couple people in Japan who have current info on youtube. It threw me into a panic for awhile until I realized that "there is nothing that can be done about it now" and the fact that radiation was showing up in cow's milk in MA 3 weeks after it first happened. I am sure the radiation has circled the planet several times over. All the fish in all the oceans are diseased from it and I am sure all the meats and vegetables we eat are effected also - you can't undo that. there is no way they can incase those nuclear plants until they cool (which could take another 30 years) and so they continue to spew radiation. I still keep tack of the problem, but I have also decided to not live in fear every day and waste what time I may have on this planet.
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Date: October 06, 2013 at 20:11:44
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Fukushima. The single most terrifying problem on the planet. |
URL: http://www.earthboppin.net/talkshop/disasters/messages/8318.html |
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I posted an information request awhile back (it's still
on the this board, just scroll down, or follow link)...
I think this is possibly the one subject most everyone
overloads on, and just don't want to look at it... I've
looked at it, it's truly on the level of Cosmic Horror
(H.P. Lovecraft reference) for me...
I often recite the Litany Against Fear when looking at
Fukushima...
In the video you linked... if what she is true about
reactor building 4 ready to fall apart... all the fuel
rods that are in storage pools at the top of the
building... that will be bad... but it's really just
adding to the bad that it already is... twitch...
...O.O...
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Date: October 06, 2013 at 15:45:09
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Oops, here is the link(NT) |
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gqz9qDyZ004 |
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Date: October 06, 2013 at 15:37:30
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Check here daily...(NT) |
URL: http://enenews.com/ |
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Date: October 06, 2013 at 15:43:52
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Harvey Wasserman's take on the situation |
URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NucjTiOXxSQ |
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Extinction level event?
Quite possibly.
And "They" are letting it happen.
I don't think signing a U.N. petition will do shit.
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Date: October 08, 2013 at 07:36:20
From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Harvey Wasserman's take on the situation |
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I don't think it will, either.
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