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Date: October 08, 2013 at 08:20:58
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Near Term Extinction, Fuku, and grief...

URL: http://carolynbaker.net/2013/10/02/what-collapse-feels-like-part-3-of-5-resilience-begins-with-the-heart-all-roads-lead-to-grief-by-carolyn-baker/


From an excellent series of articles by Carolyn Baker
I totally agree with her conclusions on how to view our peril.
Best,HD



...Since most of us born into industrial civilization are living with personal and cultural trauma, it makes sense that our defenses around feeling grief are so robust. After all, when you live in a war zone or have survived one, it’s much easier to become a bad ass than to allow a lump in the throat to dissolve into a river of tears that feels eternally inconsolable and ultimately feels like it’s dissolving you. We have so little support and safety, both of which are necessary for feeling the depths of our grief, that it’s much easier to suppress it under mega-layers of reason, anger, anxiety, or other emotions and distractions because actually feeling our grief seems life-threatening. All the while, grief is congesting our hearts and doing its multi-faceted, subterranean work creating symptoms in the body.

Heartbreak Heals And Fosters Resilience

We say that we want to become resilient, but we continue to shut off the heart as if resilience is something that gets engineered in the head. In fact, if resilience doesn’t begin with the heart, we can never become authentically resilient.

If we are not first heartbroken by what is happening to our planet, the earth community, the people we love, and ourselves, all other forms of preparation for our daunting future are quite simply, incidental. The collapse of industrial civilization will result in unimaginable loss of life, and those who survive will either become bigger people, or they will be emotionally and spiritually decimated. The heart, not the head, determines the outcome of that reality.


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Date: October 08, 2013 at 09:46:01
From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Near Term Extinction, Fuku, and grief...


And grief, too. Forgot about that one.
I grieved for my mother for a good long time before her passing, which is why I had no more tears then. I was just numb for a time after that from all the stress.

It saddens me when looking around at my corner of the world, and remembering all the places I've been and the people I've known and have come to know, and realizing that more likely than not all will be shambles within my lifetime. Tears. And then thanks for what is, what was, and what there is in whatever time ahead. Then straighten up, enjoy what is and keep going.

Continually amazed at how so many ignore, deny and dance along oblivious to both the beauty and the horror.


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Date: October 08, 2013 at 12:11:50
From: Hattiesdad, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Chatillion, the final words in your reply sparked a memory...

URL: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AnR1FJ6yQq4


I saw the Japanese Bhuto dance troupe Sankai Juku when I was a kid in NYC. I think your words,
"dance along oblivious to both the beauty and the horror."is summed up perfectly (in the opposite of oblivious) in Bhuto dance. Strangely enough created by the Japanese, partly as a response to the bombings at Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
I wonder what kinds of artistic expression will be created in the wake of Fukushima.
Best, HD


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Date: October 08, 2013 at 18:23:27
From: chatillion, [DNS_Address]
Subject: HD - Re: Chatillion, the final words in your reply sparked a memory...


Oh my word! Thanks for the video link.
How horribly beautiful.
That must have been a wonderful experience to have seen the Bhuto troupe live.

I wonder too, what form could come out of the wake of Fukushima.

IMO, one must be aware not only of beauty and the sublime, but also of evil/darkness/negative. Recognize it. Acknowledge it. Then not dwell there. If ignored there lies the very great chance to be knocked upside the head--if one is so lucky, could be much worse. Which is why I agree with those on the boards who have taken the Love&Light folks to task. All well and good to be there, but one sure as heck better be very much aware of the existance of that hellish other.

And in a way, life is a kind of dance if one makes it that way.
Takes a degree of detachment. Not always easy.


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Date: October 08, 2013 at 22:22:25
From: terra11, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: HD - An analogy between us and the vets!!!


I would say that MOST Folks are Not Oblivious to
what is happening,Most are probably like me and cry
privately and/or agonize over what is happening with
a feeling of helplessness--I believe that one of the
REASONS why it seems no one cares is because we
are still in Shock--WAY too much negagivity and
pain and shell shock WAY TO FAST--I THINK IT MUST
BE WITH US PRETTY MUCH THE SAME THING THAT THE
VETERANS ARE SUFFERING FROM--AND I DO MEAN SUFFERING!
I feel so much AGONY for ALL OF THE CHILDREN and for
My own Children and Grandchildren of course--I FEEL THAT I HAVE BEEN MORTALLY WOUNDED BY THE HORROR OF ALL THAT
IS HAPPENING AND HAS HAPPENED SO QUICKLY--I feel
decimated and beaten MENTALLY PHYSICALLY AND SPIRITUALLY AND ANYONE WHO DOESN'T IS EITHER LYING
OR HAS NO FEELINGS AT ALL--i told my daughter last
week that I Wish that she and all of the kids her
age could know life LIKE I KNEW IT WHEN I WAS HER
AGE--not only do we feel beaten but WE HAVE NO CLUE
WHERE TO START TO DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT--it is EXACTLY
like it would be to have a Home and Parents who Loved
you and took care of you and gave you every thing you
needed and most of what you wanted AND SUDDENLY YOU
HAVE BEEN THROWN OUT onto the street with Nothing and
no protection and no where to go and no one to turn
too!!! I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT IT? ALL I KNOW IS
THAT I AM ASHAMED OF AMERICA AND ASHAMED THAT I DON'T KNOW WHAT TO DO ABOUT ANY OF IT!!!
Love and Light Terra
LOVE IS THE ONLY REASON!!!


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