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Date: August 02, 2012 at 22:50:29
From: BSE, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead

URL: http://apnews.myway.com/article/20120803/DA0DIHBO1.html


Aug 2, 9:26 PM (ET)

By COREY WILLIAMS
DETROIT (AP) - From the street, the two decomposing bodies were nearly invisible, concealed in an overgrown lot alongside worn-out car tires and a moldy sofa. The teenagers had been shot, stripped to their underwear and left on a deserted block.

They were just the latest victims of foul play whose remains went undiscovered for days after being hidden deep inside Detroit's vast urban wilderness - a crumbling wasteland rarely visited by outsiders and infrequently patrolled by police.

Abandoned and neglected parts of the city are quickly becoming dumping grounds for the dead - at least a dozen bodies in 12 months' time. And authorities acknowledge there's little they can do.

"You can shoot a person, dump a body and it may just go unsolved" because of the time it may take for the corpse to be found, officer John Garner said.

The bodies have been purposely hidden or discarded in alleys, fields, vacant houses, abandoned garages and even a canal. Seven of the victims are believed to have been slain outside Detroit and then dumped within the city.

It's a pattern made possible by more than four decades of urban decay and suburban flight. White residents started moving to burgeoning suburbs in the 1950s, then stepped up their exodus after a deadly 1967 race riot. Detroit's black middle class followed over the next two decades, leaving block after block of empty homes.

Over time, tens of thousands of houses deteriorated. Some collapsed, others were demolished. Empty lots gave way to block-long fields.

Jacob Kudla and Jourdan Bobbish were found July 27 in a field off Lyford Street, a lonely road that borders an industrial area and a small municipal airport. The teens from suburban Westland, 18 and 17, respectively, had been visiting Kudla's uncle in Detroit when they disappeared July 22.

Their corpses were found by someone walking along the desolate block. The closest house, about 100 yards away, belongs to 74-year-old Ella Dunn.
Over the last 24 years, she has watched nearly all her neighbors move out. Now she constantly hears people dumping tires, furniture and trash.
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If you want to read the rest of this horrible article it's at the link provided above.

Having grown up in Metro Detroit and lived there until 1976, the story bring tears to my eyes. Detroit was once a great and wonderful city.


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Date: August 07, 2012 at 20:16:21
From: RIG, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead


I wonder just how much of Detroit is unihabited... is it square miles and miles?... sure sounds like a modern day ghost town...


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Date: August 09, 2012 at 14:00:12
From: BSE, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: how much of Detroit is unihabited


RIG, you pose an interesting question, so I went back through historical imagery on GE of the one area mentioned which just happens to be between the two runways at Detroit's City Airport, which is predominantly private aircraft and no airline operations that I'm aware of. The imagery dates between 5/18/1999 and 2/3/2012, and I don't see any noticeable difference in vacant land area.

However, what I can say, based upon having gone back there in September of 2010, there were some areas of the City of Detroit that looked almost as bad as they did in 1967 after the riots and before the World Series Games. In 2010, to me the most noticable areas of dilapidated buildings were around the site of the former "Tiger Stadium" at Michigan Avenue and Trumball.


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Date: August 02, 2012 at 23:10:58
From: Bill Silver Eagle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Vacant Detroit becomes dumping ground for the dead


After reading the remainder of the article, and looking up one of the streets mentioned, I found that one street was but blocks away from the hospital I was born in (contrary to those who believe I was found under a rock). I understand that this "image" of Detroit does not necessarily equate to many or even some of this country's large metropolitan cities, but it supports my position that in many places of this country, there is no intelligent life for aliens or extra-terrestrials to visit, unless they wanted to use the inhabitants of some of these areas for a food source.

Ya'll keep your cities and stay in them and leave us "country" or "rural" folk alone. Cities suck and that article while not inclusive of all metropolitan cities, I'll bet can be found true of many larger cities who like Detroit has suffered since the late seventies for lack of employment, thanks to jack-ass corporate types outsourcing jobs overseas. The blood of Detroit and all similar ghetto-cities is on the hands of Corporate America.


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Date: August 02, 2012 at 23:21:41
From: BSE, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Why this administration sucks.


US announces $12m more in Syrian humanitarian aid

WASHINGTON (AP) - President Barack Obama on Thursday approved $12 million in new humanitarian aid for beleaguered Syrian civilians as the civil war rages between rebels and the Assad regime in Aleppo and elsewhere.

The announcement takes total U.S. humanitarian relief to $76 million since Syria's conflict began last year. The U.S. is providing food, water, medicine, clothing and hygiene kits, the White House said.

The aid is separate from the $25 million in communications equipment and medical supplies that Washington is delivering directly to the Syrian opposition. The new relief money will go to the U.N. refugee agency, the international Red Cross, UNICEF and other organizations providing assistance to Syrian civilians, U.S. officials said.




Bastards will send millions overseas, when we have a real problem, like the one in Detroit. This country is screwed .... or in the words written on Nebuchadnezzar's Palace .....

MENE' MENE' TEKEL UPHRASIN


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Date: August 08, 2012 at 12:38:36
From: Quartz, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why this administration sucks.


What would you propose? Injecting money into a failing system only prolongs the problem. Let the businesses fail, let people migrate out of Detroit, let the businesses fail. I can't think of anything our government could do about Detroit that wouldn't just make things worse elsewhere.

When things die, let them die, stop trying to prolong a system that has failed.

And America failed in the 1980s after Reagan did his damage. We had the illusion of a peak in the late 1980s and early 1990s that simply show and using up what we should've been stockpiling and have been in a downward spiral since.

Our infrastructure failed decades ago, it's only that we had the resources to carry us through this long. And the illusion of security that gave people made them feel entitled and refuse to make sacrifices.

Yeah, the fact that we're sending the money to Syria sucks. There are better internal uses for it. That said, if it's going to go I'd rather it go to relief efforts than millions of dollars per missile.

But what good does money do when we are a planned obsolescence culture that sets things up to fail and then runs out of the material resources to replace them with?


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Date: August 09, 2012 at 14:22:28
From: Bill Silver Eagle, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why this administration sucks......What would you propose?


I'm glad you asked .....

#1 - Instead of pissing money away overseas, I'd start by rebuilding the deteriorating infrastructure in this country, roads, highways, interstates, bridges, tunnels, etc.

#2 - Then begin working on repairing and upgrading many of our countries ports and shipping faciilties.

#3 - Re: failing system ... sadly former, now deceased Detroit Mayor Coleman Young would be where the finger pointing and corruptness began. Though even after he left office, the corruptness didn't end.

#4 - making things worse elsewhere? - as in overseas or domestically? A number of this country's larger cities are experiencing new growth, because they have had their transportation systems, especially public/mass transit/light-rail improved to efficiency matching many European Cities.

#5 - We're in a generalized agreement here .... Our infrastructure failed decades ago, it's only that we had the resources to carry us through this long. And the illusion of security that gave people made them feel entitled and refuse to make sacrifices.

Yeah, the fact that we're sending the money to Syria sucks. There are better internal uses for it. That said, if it's going to go I'd rather it go to relief efforts than millions of dollars per missile.


#6 - How did we become a planned obsolescence or IMO a "throw-away" culture? Has our former "industrial greatness" brought that upon ourselves, and the tech industry just furthered it along?

#7 - Yeah, working in a steel-mill, or textile-mill is a bitch and hard work. Don't know if you were around but there were many here who posted they would not want their children having to work in "mills" as adults.

Let's face it, at some point, in general, this country lost it's work ethic. Many, again generalization, seem to believe that blue-collar work, i.e., laborers, are below them and that they deserve to work in white-collar jobs.

How many of the billions spent on the War on Terrorism since 9/11, would have been spent on infrastructure projects, had 9/11 never occurred, I'll bet that wouldn't be even 10 percent.

#8 - Yeah singling out this present Administration instead of going back to the Reagan-years, was in error on my part. This is only the latest installment in waste.


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