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Date: July 20, 2012 at 07:52:15
From: conch/mojave, [DNS_Address]
Subject: this is horrifying 12 dead?

URL: http://abcnews.go.com/US/mass-shooting-colorado-movie-theater-14-people-dead/story?id=16817842


How does this shit happen? So sad. Can not even imagine the sadness the loved ones must feel. Now we have to go thru a scanner to see a movie..metal detectors going to be everywhere..


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Date: July 22, 2012 at 18:01:12
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: How does this 'shift' happen?


Well its the logical conclusion and manifestation of what individuals
envision... contemplate as entertainment... when are humans going to
learn that the violence (and other stuff) in the movies spreads... now learn
and use the freedoms wisely ...


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7560


Date: July 27, 2012 at 09:12:06
From: Kane, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why Sally Ride's sexuality really matters


America's first woman in space blazed a trail for equality in the
sciences thanks to her sex and her sexuality

My girlfriend was the one who pointed out to me that Sally Ride had a
female partner.

I was a mess on Monday when I learned that Ride, who became the first
American woman to fly in space in 1983, had died. I had no idea she
was even sick – at her request, NASA had kept her 17-month battle
with pancreatic cancer secret.

Ride was one of my childhood heroes. I dressed as her for Halloween
when I was aged eight and my lifelong passion for space was first
budding. Ride's legacy is mostly one of inclusion: bringing more
women into science, encouraging girls to think they can do anything.
She was a living example of how to crush gender stereotypes, even as
she dodged sexist questions from the media. Her first flight on the
space shuttle Challenger was before I was born. Thanks to her, I grew
up in a world where my sex was not a barrier to the stars.

It runs even deeper for me, as a science writer. When I found out she
had double majored in physics and English in college, I felt an intense
feeling of identification – she was like me. I too loved both science and
words, and felt a bit of tension about it – but if the first American
woman in space could cross that line, I could too.

And I felt that same sense of recognition when my girlfriend read me
this line from Ride's obituary, that she was "survived by her partner of
27 years, Tam O'Shaughnessy." I was elated. Again, Sally Ride was
someone like me.

This is why I think Ride's sexuality matters. If her gender matters for
diversity reasons, her sexuality matters too, for the same reason.

Role models only work if you see yourself reflected in them. When
young people imagine their possible futures – what career to pursue,
where to live, who to spend time with – one of the most important
questions in deciding what path to take is, "Will I find people like me
there?"

Psychologists call this "ambient belonging", and it's been shown to have
an effect on things like college students' choice of subjects. If you feel
that your gender, race, sexuality or love of science fiction sets you
apart, then seeing people like you in a certain field will make you more
likely to go into it. And the reverse is also true.

Which makes things complicated when it comes to someone like Ride.
She was neither out nor deeply in the closet, it seems. Ride doesn't
appear to have kept her partnership with O'Shaughnessy particularly
secret. They worked together and wrote books together. Would they
have legally married if they could? We may never know. But Ride's sex
was visible in a way that her sexuality wasn't. She didn't need to put
much effort into hiding it for us to overlook it.

Even when you're actively looking, it can be hard to find reflections of
yourself in the world. I know that it's not just me. The March meeting of
the American Physical Society held the first-ever session on sexual and
gender diversity issues in physics this year.

One of the organisers, Elena Long of Kent State University, had
searched for resources for LGBT+ physicists – or even just evidence
that others existed – and found nothing (LGBT stands for lesbian, gay,
bisexual and transgender, while the plus sign includes other sexual
orientations or gender identities including intersexed, queer,
questioning, asexual or pansexual).

One of the main conclusions of the meeting was that having role
models who are open about their sexuality, and having a support
network was necessary for LGBT+ physicists to feel safe and
comfortable in their departments – and crucial to a successful career.

"I think showing successful academics who are out is an important way
to dispel the notion that being out precludes or limits one's
professional opportunities," wrote one anonymous attendee.

"There are other people like me who are further in their careers," wrote
another. "I know a number of queer students or allies that are students,
but I have no visible, contemporary queer scientist role models."

Now we have Sally Ride.


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7562


Date: July 27, 2012 at 14:43:58
From: et, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: So what really matters...


... be the role models one embraces and cultivates!

Your attempt to highjack this thread and shift the topic completeley is
dutifully noted and to stir the pot a bit more in line with what you
posted... we can conclude that it does takes 'a man', someone who
prefers women, to go to outer space... Evidently the definitions of what
constitutes a woman, a man and other terms need reconsideration
because the physical form no longer facilitates this task.

now lets us all focus on the topic of this forum... and disregard any
attempts to distract us...


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7561


Date: July 27, 2012 at 11:16:26
From: martin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Why Sally Ride's sexuality really matters


I heard on the news that Sally's partner can not collect
her benefits that other couples (not same sex) would be
entitled to.
Sad that we can go to space but not love who we love with
same rights.


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7542


Date: July 20, 2012 at 10:57:26
From: jeffersonzuma, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this is horrifying 12 dead?


Yeah, how convenient, as movie theatres are going out of business anyway.


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Date: July 20, 2012 at 07:56:52
From: emoon - Palo Alto, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: this is horrifying 12 dead?


Although even metal detectors at theatres won't stop people who pop in the exit as it sounds like this one did.

Such stress on the planet. Too much violence (in and out of movies) and new energies coming onto the planet that people haven't learned to assimilate.

Time for collective prayers of healing.


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Date: July 20, 2012 at 09:55:08
From: burnedmyrrh, [DNS_Address]
Subject: This is horrifying 12 dead?


E-moon,

I agree about the new energies, cs I feel it myself and I'm well versed in absorbing new energies, dealing with bad energy ... OY!


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