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From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: *Watch* Film Crew Near Fukushima Plant: “That was bizarre, I felt it a
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*Watch* Film Crew Near Fukushima Plant: “That was bizarre, I felt it as well” — Camera cuts to black, unidentified screaming after radiation hits 5,000 microSv/h (VIDEO) Hiroshi: Let’s head towards the mountains. [...] Ian: It’s getting fairly high right now. Cameraman: What is it now? Ian: It’s 5! Man: It’s 60… 80… This is impossible! It’s 100!! It’s 300! Hiroshi: It just hit 500! Ian: Turn back! Turn back! Turn back! Man: This is not good. (Camera cuts to black; Unidentified screams) Man: Oh my god. Cameraman: I think we’re in trouble. That was bizarre. I felt it as well. In response to a question from arclight about the ending, the filmmaker writes: It’s difficult to explain, but basically, we drove into a radiation hotspot and something happened in the car. What was it? Even the four members who were in the car don’t all agree on exactly what occurred. I hope viewers can watch this (along with Part 5) and decide for themselves what they think happened. NOTE: The radiation measurements are in millirem per hour (mR/h). 1 mR/h equals 10 microsieverts per hour (microSv/h). The top reading of 500 mR/h in the film is equal to 5,000 microSv/h. |
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From: mcon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it kills me how polite the police officers were (NT)
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From: martin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: it kills me how polite the police officers were (NT)
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That's because they don't automatically assume that anyone they encounter is wasted, packing, selling, mental health issues and hiv+ and most aren't. The level of desperation just doesn't exist in Japan as other places where the cops need to be ready for anything. And children have to grow up no matter where they're born. |
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From: mcon, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: yes, there's no "melting pot" for the Japanese
| except they treat most Koreans and most atomic bomb blast survivors (and their children) shamefully |
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From: martin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: I don't know...
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I think they backed into the ditch in haste to get out! Seemed authentic to me and the shop owner Hiroshi seemed down to earth and the shop had been left for 15 months after the quake without being cleaned up or anything. I agree that high radiation would have been visible as camera distortion. I'm impressed by Japanese morality and the obvious lack of looting. One can sure see that the buildings with heavy tile roofs fell like a house of cards during the quake, someone needs to start manufacting authentic looking tile from much lighter recycled plastic. Sure would have saved a few lives in earthquakes like Kobe etc... |
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From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: i think this will lead to national seppuku(NT)
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From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: i think this will lead to national seppuku(NT)
URL: http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/japanese-deterg/
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http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2009/03/japanese-deterg/ Dangerous Japanese ‘Detergent Suicide’ Technique Creeps Into U.S. By Kevin Poulsen Email Author March 13, 2009 | 1:55 pm | Categories: Threats Car_suicide_ca A suicide technique that mixes household chemicals to produce a deadly hydrogen sulfide gas became a grisly fad in Japan last year. Now it’s slowly seeping into the United States over the internet, according to emergency workers, who are alarmed at the potential for innocent causalities. At least 500 Japanese men, women and children took their lives in the first half of 2008 by following instructions posted on Japanese websites, which describe how to mix bath sulfur with toilet bowl cleaner to create a poisonous gas. One site includes an application to calculate the correct portions of each ingredient based on room volume, along with a PDF download of a ready-made warning sign to alert neighbors and emergency workers to the deadly hazard. The first sign that the technique was migrating to the United States came in August, when a 23-year-old California man was found dead in his car behind a Pasadena shopping center. The VW Beetle’s doors were locked, the windows rolled up and a warning sign had been posted in one of the windows. Police and firefighters evacuated the shopping crew before a hazmat crew in chemical suits extracted the body and began cleaning up the grisly scene. Then in December, emergency workers responding to a call at Lake Allatoona in Bartow County, Georgia, found a similar scene. Inside the car — along with the body — were two buckets containing a yellow substance. A note on the window said "Caution" and identified the chemical compound by name. Nobody connected the cases until last month, when a Texas surgeon realized that a new and dangerous suicide method was making the rounds. Dr. Paul Pepe, chief of emergency medicine at UT Southwestern Medical Center, warned emergency workers that they could become innocent casualties of the technique if they’re not careful. Other experts agree. "The normal response for an EMS, is they’re going to break open the window," says August Vernon, assistant coordinator for the Forsyth County Office of Emergency Management, who was consulted by the Department of Homeland Security on the danger this week. "And that’s a pretty normal call: someone unconscious inside the car. Fortunately, those people left notes, which is pretty unusual and a good thing." "Eventually," he adds, "someone isn’t going to leave a note." Japanese_suicide Police officers in protective gear enter an apartment in Konan, southern Japan Thursday, April 24, 2008. A Japanese girl gassed herself to death by mixing laundry detergent with cleanser, releasing fumes that sickened 90 people in her apartment house. (AP Photo/Kyodo News) The American version of the method substitutes a common insecticide for the bath sulfur used in the Japanese recipe; bath sulfur isn’t available in the United States. But the tweak does nothing to make the gas less dangerous for people nearby. In one of the Japanese cases last year, 90 residents in an apartment building were sickened when a 14-year-old girl used hydrogen sulfide (H2S) to take her life. The so-called "detergent suicides" in Japan sparked considerable and ongoing interest on the Alt.Suicide Usenet groups, where people considering suicide share tips and tricks. This week, one depressed man wrote of his plan to release hydrogen sulfide gas in his car while driving, in the hope that he’ll lose consciousness and crash — making it look like an accident. "I got the idea to use hydrogen sulfide poisoning by reading of the tremendous success (for lack of a better word) that the Japanese people have had with it," he wrote on Monday. "It is their most common suicide method. I understand that the method smells but I have found the stench of failure in my life as well." When other newsgroup denizens pointed out the recklessness of his plan, he gave it up as too risky to innocent bystanders. After exploring other techniques, the man announced on Wednesday that he decided he’d rather live. "With months of research I have discovered that there is no ‘easy’ or ‘painless’ or ‘quick’ way to die," he wrote. "So, from here on out I am going to pick up the pieces to my life! Maybe you should too." (Top photo: A hazmat team responds to a chemical suicide near a Pasadena shopping center. Courtesy Terry Miller, Beacon Media News) Suicide Help: |
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From: Polydactyl in N. Bay, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: i think this will lead to national seppuku(NT)
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That's gross but a good heads-up! It must smell positively disgusting in your last seconds of life, yech. I don't condone suicide ever, but I can imagine, given another big earthquake that already desperate and sick people with no real cure possible, near yet another big radiation release, and a gov't that's hell bent on saving themselves first---this could well become very popular. I would hope that before people attempt to take their own life that they would speak up loud and clear about what's being done to them and/or why they want to kill themselves. You've heard of the old communication technique where you tell people what you feel as in, 'You make me feel like killing myself because..my hair is falling out, my cattle are all dead, and you won't stop this nuclear madness!' People with nothing to lose might change the minds of their gov officials. In fact, the protests are getting stronger, with more people. The Japanese PM is now considering how serious a problem he has on his hands by starting up the two reactors. What he will do, well, who knows but I don't think the people will give up on something that has taken their lives outright. |
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From: trapper/austin, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: I don't know...
| those people are so screwed. he used the correct word - uninhabitable. |
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