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Date: August 30, 2021 at 13:42:26
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??

URL: Caldor fire forces more evacuations near Lake Tahoe


Be a crying shame if it was lost.


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11809


Date: September 03, 2021 at 05:26:23
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Techies hi-tailin it from Tahoe

URL: Lake Tahoe’s Fire Peril Casts Pall on a Remote-Work Paradise


Or in other words: NO PLACE TO HIDE


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11803


Date: September 01, 2021 at 13:02:28
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: ONLY 3 MILES LEFT !!

URL: Caldor Fire racing toward Lake Tahoe


"Crews in California are in a desperate fight to stop
the Caldor Fire as it races toward heavily populated
areas around Lake Tahoe. Flames are now just three
miles from the resort city of South Lake Tahoe, which
hasn't seen danger like this in decades. Tens of
thousands of homes there are under threat."


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11806


Date: September 03, 2021 at 01:42:15
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: winds slowly down and changing direction

URL: https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/09/02/caldor-fire-firefighters-get-a-break-as-tahoe-escapes-damage-but-danger-still-looms-evacuations/


https://www.mercurynews.com/2021/09/02/caldor-fire-
firefighters-get-a-break-as-tahoe-escapes-damage-but-
danger-still-looms-evacuations/

excerpt:
For the first time in days, the pace of the Caldor
Fire’s growth slowed Thursday, giving firefighters a
sense of cautious optimism even as they warned that the
unpredictable blaze still threatens parts of
California’s famed Tahoe Basin.

Winds over the next few days are expected to be mild,
giving crews a chance to cut off the fire’s advance
before it burns through another community. South Lake
Tahoe so far has been spared — in part thanks to a
lucky break in the weather, but it’s far too early for
those on the front lines to feel a sense of relief


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11807


Date: September 03, 2021 at 01:44:29
From: Johnl, [DNS_Address]
Subject: correction: winds slowing down (NT)


(NT)


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11799


Date: August 31, 2021 at 01:19:34
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??

URL: https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/caldor-fire-maps-tahoe-meyers-south-lake-16422455.php


Maps show how close Caldor Fire is burning to Lake Tahoe
Katie Dowd, SFGATE
Aug. 30, 2021
Updated: Aug. 30, 2021 6:54 p.m.

The Cal Fire operations map for the Caldor Fire burning near Lake Tahoe on Aug. 30, 2021. The south shore of the lake can be seen at the top right.

- Updates: Get info on the Caldor Fire from the Eldorado National Forest.
- Information line: 530-303-2455
- Evacuations: Get the latest info from the U.S. Forest Service and from a map posted by the El Dorado County Sheriff's Office.
- Maps: Find from the Forest Service.

New Cal Fire operations maps show how close the Caldor Fire is now raging to the Tahoe Basin.

A detailed map shows the red tendrils of the fire's edge reaching into Desolation Wilderness near Ralston Peak. The fire line is also just below Upper and Lower Echo lakes. You can see a full-size version of the map here, although it can be a bit tricky to read as the map is topographical rather than a street-by-street view. The map is usually updated about once per day, so real-time fire lines have now moved past these. As of Monday evening, the fire was officially down into the basin.


The Cal Fire operations map for the Caldor Fire burning near Lake Tahoe on Aug. 30, 2021. The south shore of the lake can be seen at the top right.
Cal Fire/Handout
The Cal Fire operations map for the Caldor Fire burning near Lake Tahoe on Aug. 30, 2021. The close-up shows the fire line encroaching into Desolation Wilderness.

The Cal Fire operations map for the Caldor Fire burning near Lake Tahoe on Aug. 30, 2021. The close-up shows the fire line encroaching into Desolation Wilderness.
Cal Fire/Handout

You can also use this interactive map from Fire Mappers to get a sense of where the fire is burning. This is not an evacuation map. For that, you should look to county agencies. (Note: The map can sometimes be slow to load. If you don't see the Tahoe area render right away, wait a bit longer.)

The fire is raging through Twin Bridges and Echo Summit. Reporters on the ground are seeing major structure damage in the communities.

With high winds in the forecast, evacuation orders now stretch all the way to the shores of South Lake Tahoe.

The Caldor Fire went from 168,387 acres on Sunday evening to 186,568 acres on Monday evening. The fire is now 15% contained; it was 19% contained to start the weekend.

"Humidity recovery remained poor overnight and allowed the fire to continue to actively burn," Cal Fire said in its Monday morning briefing. "...Current fire behavior is contributing to ember casts traveling up to half a mile."


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11800


Date: August 31, 2021 at 05:27:11
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??

URL: Traffic nightmare


I hate to get stuck in that kind of traffic jam.


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Date: September 01, 2021 at 00:41:52
From: ryan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??

URL: https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Lyft-price-gouge-South-Lake-Tahoe-Caldor-Fire-16425563.php


good ol' lyft...always ready to help...

Lyft critiqued after rides out of South Lake Tahoe cost $1,500 amid Caldor Fire evacuations
Photo of Joshua Bote
Joshua Bote, SFGATE
Aug. 31, 2021


As the Caldor Fire heads more rapidly into South Lake Tahoe, a large majority of residents have already fled out of the area into evacuation centers, spare bedrooms and other safe havens in Reno and across Northern California and Nevada.

Meanwhile, the San Francisco-based ride-hailing app Lyft was accused Tuesday morning of price gouging as the last of the evacuees flood out of Tahoe.

A Lyft from the popular Heavenly Valley Lodge to the Reno-Tahoe International Airport showed a fare price between $1,300 to $1,500 for an "XL" vehicle Tuesday morning — a minivan or SUV that has the capacity to sit at least five other passengers. Typically, that ride is estimated to cost up to $200 for an "XL" vehicle, according to Lyft's own estimate prices.

As of noon Tuesday, the price had stabilized to a more reasonable $230 for an XL.
A screenshot of Lyft's surge pricing.


A screenshot of Lyft's surge pricing.
Grant Marek/SFGATE

A spokesperson for Lyft explained the substantial markup to surge pricing.

“When ride requests outpace the number of drivers on the road, prime time pricing — elevated fares designed to get more drivers to high-demand areas — is automatically enabled," said the spokesperson. When we realized how the evacuation order was affecting Lyft prices, we immediately implemented a cap and ultimately suspended prime time pricing.”

Lyft turned off its surge pricing function in the area later Tuesday morning, he confirmed.

A ride out of Tahoe from competitor Uber still would cost about a couple hundred dollars, according to the app, but no rides are available. An Uber spokesperson told SFGATE that service is still available, but that no drivers are available likely because "drivers are choosing not to drive on the platform, perhaps due to safety reasons or they may be part of the expanded wildfire evacuation order themselves."

As photos of residents waiting at evacuation stops continue to spread on social media, it's clear that not all South Lake Tahoe residents have the means to escape with their own vehicles — forcing them to turn to third-party services for expedient evacuations.

Urgency to flee is rising Tuesday as firefighters battle blazes only a few miles south in the town of Meyers, and winds are expected to worsen.


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11802


Date: September 01, 2021 at 04:15:22
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??

URL: See lone bear roam a deserted South Lake Tahoe


And now the bears are moving in !


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11805


Date: September 02, 2021 at 15:55:21
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??


Oh..and to add... People who live in wildfire areas
need to be extra cautious of wildlife. While many
escape, they can become disoriented, confused and more
dangerous..and often end up somewhere they shouldn't be
in their rush out of their normal areas (just like
people).

That's probably true of flood and hurricane areas, too.
They go through the same loss, greif, fear and
panic..but without as much help.


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11804


Date: September 02, 2021 at 15:52:26
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??


He's looking for Chicago.

Da Bears.

Prayers (good thoughts, light..) requested for son
who's enroute to Tahoe with his national guard unit to
join the fight.


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11808


Date: September 03, 2021 at 04:50:32
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Can Lake Tahoe be SAVED ??


Sounds like he's from the national guard armory...from
Humboldt Park.


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