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Date: August 14, 2020 at 19:55:55
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: does anyone eat sea lions? |
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probably indians but i don't know. i see they are going to kill sea lions to save the salmon. chas
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Date: August 19, 2020 at 20:13:18
From: Mitra, [DNS_Address]
Subject: The Trump administration pushes Bristol Bay closer to disaster |
URL: https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2020-08-12/bristol-bay-alaska-army-corps-of-engineers-salmon-northern-dynasty |
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Bristol Bay, Alaska, where not 16 million but as many as 60 million salmon still return from ocean depths to wilderness rivers. The fish nourish orcas, bears, the livelihoods and culture of Alaska’s native people and a commercial fishing industry that delivers 46% of the sockeye salmon marketed worldwide. The fishery generates $1.5 billion in annual income and 14,500 jobs, a gift of the wild waters and mountains of Southwest Alaska that could last forever if we would only let the place be.
But Bristol Bay’s salmon are threatened by a Canadian corporation that proposes to excavate a massive open-pit mine to exploit and export American minerals, primarily copper and gold. Northern Dynasty Minerals Ltd.'s Pebble Mine advanced in the permitting process on July 24, when the Army Corps of Engineers released a final environmental impact statement on the project. Contrary to most assessments of Pebble Mine, the Trump administration’s Army Corps concluded that the project would “not be expected to have a measurable effect” on the salmon or the fishing industry. Final approval from Washington awaits; if it happens, it would reverse previous federal decisions based on years of analysis.
Dynasty’s mine — an excavation the size of 460 football fields — would affect hundreds of miles of streams, and its pipeline — 188 miles long with 82 miles of road — would lie squarely between two of our most extraordinary national parks and preserves, Lake Clark and Katmai.
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Date: August 15, 2020 at 11:58:54
From: Alan, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: does anyone eat sea lions? |
URL: https://discovery.ucl.ac.uk/id/eprint/1460514/1/Fiona_Haughey_vol_1.pdf |
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Been eaten for thousands of since at least since Mesolithic times by hunter gatherers on coastal / estuary regions - i.e. Baltic , NW & weest coast US North America, and South America regions etc.
Likely seal-lions were likely a competitor for Salmon even then.
The equipment used by Tlingit had a high degree of sophistication in order to catch large numbers of fish. Some of it was specialised in that particular hooks and rakes were designed for use with one sort of fish. Canoes were used in the estuaries and between the islands of what is known as the ‘Alaskan panhandle’ for halibut while large basket-like traps were placed across streams for salmon which were guided in by fence weirs (Olson & Hubbard 1984, 919, 929, 930). In addition they used dip and scoop nets, seines, gill and small hand nets. Other groups such as the Kwakiutl constructed salmon traps as well using poles with a range of designs to fit varying sizes of streams. Stone weirs were constructed on the coast and in small streams, spears and gaffs were employed. In addition to the piscines, the Tlingit also collected uni- and bi-valves, crustaceans, seaweed and other small sea creatures as well as hunting seals and sea lions (Olson & Hubbard 1984, 930).
Subsistence within the area displays an emphasis on fishing with hunting being a secondary source of food procurement (Croes 1992, 102). Elk and deer faunal remains have been recovered as well as those from sea lion and fur seal but even with the addition of shellfish and waterfowl, fish still provided approximately 80% of the food resources (Croes 1988, 143,145). The site shows evidence of food processing with drying racks and tools as well as storage baskets used when transporting the fish (Croes 1988, 145-146). Analysis of red blood cell residue from a number of the hafted- microlith blades made from vein quartz and green jasper has identified fish blood on some of them (Croes 1988, 146; 1999, 63). The fish were both marine and freshwater varieties with the late summer/autumn catches being almost completely salmon making their way upstream to spawn. Halibut seems to have dominated in the earlier parts of the year (Croes 1988, 143).
Also see
Evolution of Marine Mammal Hunting: A View from the California and Oregon Coasts
https://digitalcommons.calpoly.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi? referer=https://www.google.co.uk/&httpsredir=1&article=1008&context=s sci_fac
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Date: August 15, 2020 at 10:33:35
From: Sunshine, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: does anyone eat sea lions? |
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Killer Whales eat sea lions. And many Inuit eat sea lions too. Have you ever watched " Life Below Zero"? Well, there is a family there that hunts sea lions. Forgot their name - sorry. That particular family spends most of their lives killing animals. I find it disgusting how much they kill. Yet that is their way of life, and not my bees wax anyway, on how they live. I realize that. But still, sheesh !
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Date: August 14, 2020 at 20:33:05
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: does anyone eat sea lions? |
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No. But thanks for depressing me again.
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Date: August 15, 2020 at 09:43:05
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: i can identify with you in that regard. |
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i don't like killing the sea lions to save the fish. God will take care of that problem. chas
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Date: August 16, 2020 at 09:53:16
From: Sunshine, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: i can identify with you in that regard. |
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That is wonderful how you have faith in God to take care of the Sea Lions. But Charles, God does not even protect all the young children, mostly girls, used in sex trafficking in Asia, where they are given to disgusting sweaty sex hungry men, to do with as they please. And this sex trafficking has been going on for a long time. God does not do one iota of a thing about any of that. Or the starving children in Yemen, or the bombing of innocent families and children in Syria. There are so many examples of innocents suffering horribly on this planet. Excuse me for my tone, but what makes you thing God gives a rats ass about the Sea Lions? This world is run by Evil, Divinity resides within each of us. And so many have lost that connection and this world has become corrupt and brutal and cruel and toxic. I know you are a passionate believer, and I so admire and respect your faith. But look around. Where is God? Please dont be mad at me for sharing this view that I just shared. Thank you.
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Date: August 16, 2020 at 13:42:30
From: chaskuchar@stcharlesmo, [DNS_Address]
Subject: the world is upset with man forgetting about God. |
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that's what the messages are saying and i believe them. and the universe is going to show us who God is. the warning will show all of us our lives. and the warning will be physical as well as spiritual. and it is so close now. warning was told to us at garabandal spain in 1965 if i am not mistaken. chas
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Date: August 17, 2020 at 08:01:27
From: Awen, [DNS_Address]
Subject: More broadly speaking than just this situation/example |
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The problem comes not in believing those messages, but in believing them to the point that we refuse to do our part because "God will take care of it."
Have faith in God, but not at the expense of personal responsibility and involvement.
An irony: Perhaps God is trying to work through us, but we don't realize we're the conduit, and we sit, believing God will follow through. Without realizing that we were chosen to hear and make it happen.
It's Hubris to assume God will perform a miracle and thus refuse to use the abilities He gave us to fulfill His Light within us.
Don't deny God's gifts in you in the hubris of wanting to see Him perform a miracle. That is also a rejection of His gifts to you.
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Date: August 16, 2020 at 14:12:46
From: Sunshine, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: the world is upset with man forgetting about God. |
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Oh, I like that. I hope it really happens Chas. So many for so long have been saying Divine Intervention, but it never happens. I just connect with Divinity within, because have noticed no Divinity outside of self. Too much Evil. If God Presence is even here, overshadowed by Evil. And I am not talking some kind of Devil, I am talking evil in the hearts and minds of humanity. Our world so needs it, desparetly. I hope you are are right, with all my heart. It would change everything.
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