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Date: November 12, 2018 at 20:11:39
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Death toll rises to 42 in California’s Camp Fire, worst ever in Ca.

URL: https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/california-fires-paradise-has-burned-to-the-ground-and-officials-now-try-to-pick-up-the-pieces/2018/11/12/eff15f18-e6c6-11e8-a939-9469f1166f9d_story.html?noredirect=on&utm_term=.4b7998ff5b14


over 7 thousand structures burned. Pretty grim job for firefighters in the Camp fire. I imagine even that number of fatalities will go up as they search through the ruins. :(


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Date: November 13, 2018 at 18:40:11
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death toll rises to 48 in Calif Camp Fire, 2 Woolsey fire

URL: https://www.sfgate.com/california-wildfires/article/Camp-Fire-grows-to-130-000-acres-35-percent-13389817.php


Total of 50 dead now..and may rise further.

Camp Fire: Death toll grows to 48
By Kurtis Alexander and J.K. Dineen Updated 6:27 pm
PST, Tuesday, November 13, 2018

CHICO, Butte County — The death toll from the Camp
Fire, already the worst Californa has ever seen in a
wildfire, grew by six to 48 on Tuesday, officials
announced at an evening news conference.

Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea did not provide
updated number of people who are missing, explaining
that officials are trying to clear the list of people
who already have been located.

“We’re going to do everything we possibly can to
search for remains,” Honea said, warning that there
may be cases where residents are allowed to return to
an area where officials may have missed recovering
remains. He said in that case, residents should alert
officials immediately.


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CHICO, Butte County — The death toll from the Camp
Fire, already the worst Californa has ever seen in a
wildfire, grew by six to 48 on Tuesday, officials
announced at an evening news conference.

Butte County Sheriff Kory Honea did not provide
updated number of people who are missing, explaining
that officials are trying to clear the list of people
who already have been located.

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“We’re going to do everything we possibly can to
search for remains,” Honea said, warning that there
may be cases where residents are allowed to return to
an area where officials may have missed recovering
remains. He said in that case, residents should alert
officials immediately.

“This has been a fairly hectic day for us,” Honea
said, referring to the addition to search and recovery
resources, which are still being organized. On Monday,
Honea said the county was adding 150 more people to
help with recovery and the bringing in two military-
style morgues.

military-style morgues.


The Camp Fire has grown to 130,000 acres and is 35
percent contained, fire officials announced Tuesday
evening.

The fire has destroyed a total of 8,817 structures —
including 7,600 single family homes and 260 commercial
buildings, officials said. Officials said 5,615
personnel are fighting the fire; 52,000 people remain
evacuated in and around Paradise and 13,085 people
remain sheltered.

The conditions in Butte County are extremely dry,
officials said. They said more than 200 days have
passed since it has rained in the area.

Kurtis Alexander and J.K. Dineen are San Francisco
Chronicle staff writers. Email:
kalexander@sfchronicle.com and jdineen@sfchronicle.com


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Date: November 14, 2018 at 08:45:51
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death toll rises to 48 in Calif Camp Fire, 3 Woolsey fire


(per twitter)

"LASD officials confirm human remains have been found in
the Malibu area affected by the #WoolseyFire. No further
info at this time. @SpecNews1SoCal will stay up to date
with the latest."

Bringing the death toll for the Woolsey to 3, and the
total for the week of fires (camp and woolsey) to 51
dead.


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Date: November 14, 2018 at 12:00:46
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death toll rises to 48 in Calif Camp Fire, 3 Woolsey fire


more info on dead victim found in Woosley fire:

AGOURA HILLS (CBSLA) – A body found Tuesday in a
charred Agoura Hills Home in the Woolsey Fire burn
area is believed to belong to a man in his 70s.

The Los Angeles County coroner’s office confirmed to
CBS2 Wednesday that the body was found at a scorched
home in a remote canyon in the 32000 block of Lobo
Canyon Road. The area around the home was completely
scorched by the fire.


L.A. County Sheriff’s homicide detectives at the scene
told CBS2 they responded to the residence Tuesday
after neighbors reported that the homeowner had not
been seen since the Woolsey Fire broke out. Cadaver
dogs found the man’s body in the burned out shell of
the home, the sheriff’s department said.

Coroner’s investigators were called out to identify
the victim’s remains.

This could be the third victim of the Woolsey Fire.
The badly burned bodies of two people were found Nov.
9 inside a burned vehicle in a long driveway in the
33000 block of Mulholland Highway in Malibu. Sheriff’s
detectives believe the vehicle may have become
engulfed in flames when the driver became disoriented.


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Date: November 15, 2018 at 20:03:19
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Paradise: 63 dead; 631 missing

URL: https://www.mercurynews.com/2018/11/15/camp-fire-63-dead-631-deemed-missing-second-point-of-origin-for-inferno-explored/


Camp Fire: 63 dead, 631 deemed missing; second point
of origin for inferno explored

Death count matches 1989 Loma Prieta quake; inferno
jeopardizes future of fire-ravaged towns in shadow of
Paradise

MAGALIA — When the Camp Fire first tore through Butte
County, John Pohmajevich stayed put in the small town
of Magalia — a place he’s called home for several
years now. He knew if he left, there would be no
telling when he would be able to return.

On Thursday, the San Mateo native surveyed the
devastating damage the fire’s left in its wake and
recalled the last time he saw something like this:
the Loma Prieta earthquake that shook the Bay Area in
1989.

“I thought (Loma Prieta) was bad, with the freeways
crumbling,” Pohmajevich said. “But it was still not
as bad as this.”

The Camp Fire has now killed 63 people to date,
matching the number of fatalities in the Bay Area
temblor, with 631 more still considered missing — 501
more than the figure given a day earlier. Sheriff
Kory Honea said the figure spiked because authorities
were constantly vetting both previous and incoming
reports.

“They continued to work into the night and then
ultimately they updated it,” Honea said. “I am fine
with them updating that because I would rather get
that information out than to wait too long to do
that.”

Among the latest death toll were the remains of three
people in Paradise, three in Magalia, and one in
Concow. Honea said investigators have tentatively
identified 53 fire victims.

Also Thursday, Cal Fire officials announced a
possible second origin of the fire in the Concow
area. The first point of origin was in Pulga. The
California Highway Patrol also has removed 165
vehicles from the fire zone.

This weekend, President Donald Trump will view the
devastation firsthand when he visits victims of the
deadly Camp Fire, the deadliest and most destructive
wildfire in California history. To date, the blaze
has destroyed 9,700 homes and 11,862 structures
overall.

When the fire began burning through Butte County last
week — 141,000 acres and counting, with 40 percent
containment — residents of of the 11,000-population
Magalia and 700-resident Concow, two small towns in
the shadows of Paradise, were left scrambling to
escape. Now, as they grapple with grief and loss,
some are contemplating whether to pick up the pieces
and rebuild, or whether to move on.

“I think a lot of people aren’t going to want to come
back. If this town recovers … if .. it’s going to
take years and years and years,” Pohmajevich said.
“This community was broke before the fire.”

He noted that towns like Magalia and Concow rely on
cities like Paradise and Chico as an economic
lifeline, and now one of them has virtually been
taken off the map.

“The business was in Paradise,” Pohmajevich said.

Many people came to these two communities because
they liked the peace and tranquility it offered.
People “want to live in these areas because they like
it,” said Congressman Doug LaMalfa, a Republican who
represents Butte County and has been coordinating
relief efforts with the federal government.

“The people are very resilient up there,” LaMalfa
said, but acknowledged that “putting everything back
together again is going to be a fairly long-term
process.”

LaMalfa understands that some residents, by necessity
or choice, won’t rebuild in places like Magalia and
Concow.

But for residents who do return, LaMalfa wants the
rebuilding process to result in better infrastructure
— sewer rather than septic systems, underground PG&E
lines. He also wants to see trees removed from along
roadways and around towns and cities so emergency
crews have more “defensible space” to rely on when
fires erupt.

“I think many will want to try again,” LaMalfa said,
especially if the infrastructure is better. “The
support that’s poured in from all over the state and
all over the country is pretty amazing. People feel
pretty good that a lot of folks are on their side.”

Jesus “Zeus” Fernandez, one of the first Camp Fire
fatalities to be publicly identified, lived in Concow
and valued the sense of community life in one of the
state’s more rugged areas offered.

But the landscape made the prospect of escaping a
deadly inferno like the Camp Fire difficult.

“When the fire started that morning, the residents of
the Concow area were hit first and seemingly
hardest,” reads a GoFundMe fundraising page created
in his honor. “Before Paradise, and with the least
amount of warning. Many of his neighbors recall
having only about 10 minutes to evacuate before
driving through walls of flames and flying embers.
Worst thing about Concow, is there’s only one way in
and one way out. No fire warning system, virtually
nonexistent cell service, and brutal terrain.”

Pohmajevich said the allure of the outer regions of
Butte County lie in their serenity. He moved to the
area after a career as a boat mechanic to support his
elderly parents who retired to Magalia after spending
their lives in the Bay Area.

“People move up here for the peace. You don’t have a
lot of people. You don’t have traffic,” he said. “And
there’s very good people up here.”

Michael Earhart, 75, another longtime Magalia
resident who steadfastly refused to leave his home —
in part to avoid being separated from his beloved
parakeet Max — isn’t going anywhere. He has kept on
in part by visits from search-and-rescue and other
emergency personnel dropping off water and food,
though what he is currently fixated on is a propane
refill.

“It’s a gorgeous place,” Earhart said. “I don’t know
where else I can go.”

Staff writer Jason Green contributed to this


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Date: November 15, 2018 at 20:11:56
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Paradise: 63 dead; 631 missing


OMG, I was just going to post an NPR article updated today saying over 300 missing. I was gobsmacked by that number but 631 missing, that's so frightening, I hope and pray they actually find many of those folks who might still be alive.
My heart goes out to the loved ones who fear their kin have been lost in that inferno. Thanks for the report Redhart, it's heartbreaking.


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Date: November 15, 2018 at 14:41:03
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Trump to visit California wildfire victims

URL: https://twitter.com/search?f=tweets&q=%23woolseyfire&src=typd


"NewsWatch 12

Verified account

@KDRV
7m7 minutes ago
More
President Trump is reportedly planning a visit to
California to meet with the the victims of the deadly
and devastating wildfires that have ravaged the state
since last week "

Haven't we been through enough?
Bags of marshmallows will no doubt be tossed to
victims.


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Date: November 13, 2018 at 20:28:22
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death toll rises to 48 in Calif Camp Fire, 2 Woolsey fire

URL: https://rapidrefresh.noaa.gov/hrrr/HRRRsmoke/jsloopLocalDiskDateDomainZipTZA.cgi?dsKeys=hrrr_smoke:&runTime=2018111318&plotName=trc1_sfc&fcstInc=60&numFcsts=37&model=hrrr&ptitle=HRRR-Smoke Model Fields - Experimental&maxFcstLen=36&fcstStrLen=-1&resizePlot=


hard to wrap my head around all this, watched a drone video of the destruction in Paradise, looks like Hiroshima! Same goes for the Woolsey fire but not as extreme. These fires burn so hot now they cook everything, and the smoke is so toxic it shouldn't be breathed by anyone.
We're getting a solid dose of the Camp fire smoke up here in Oregon now, it looks like it did during our own awful summer fires. We're also in a severe drought, in some places extreme drought.
The HRRR surface smoke prediction loop is at the link, looks like a lot of us are going to be breathing it.
Still, nothing like the horror of what those souls who lost everything are facing! :(


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Date: November 12, 2018 at 20:39:33
From: Eve, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Death toll rises to 42 in California’s Camp Fire, worst ever in...



:(

so tragic


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