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Date: December 18, 2017 at 09:27:51
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Xmas travel MAYHEM thread |
URL: Amtrak train crashes from bridge |
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Epic Atlanta airport blackout yesterday....and NOW THIS:
"An Amtrak train has derailed roughly 40 miles (64km)
south of Seattle, spilling cars on to a busy interstate.
Authorities said “injuries and casualties [were]
reported”.
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Date: December 19, 2017 at 05:48:21
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Al-Qaeda DIY Derailment Guide |
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Al-Qaeda Targets D.C. to Boston Line, Hazmat Cargo
Trains in DIY Derailment Guide
Bridget Johnson
The latest issue of al-Qaeda in the Arabian
Peninsula’s English-language Inspire magazine names
Amtrak’s D.C. to Boston Acela Express and several
other passenger rail lines in the United States as
prime targets for their new focus on train derailment
operations that the group says has been more than a
year in the planning stages.
Inspire, which contains vivid picture instructions on
how to build devices used for jihad, has served as an
instructional guide for American jihadists who don’t
necessarily claim allegiance to al-Qaeda, including
Boston Marathon bombers Tamerlan and Dzhokhar
Tsarnaev.
The article focuses on metro trains operating within
cities, regional routes serving population-dense
corridors, and long-distance trains with remote tracks
that are impossible to fully police. Trains can be
attacked by targeting the cars, the stations or the
tracks; the article focuses on the last, stressing
that the method makes suicide operations unnecessary
and the same person can return to strike more lines if
not captured, once again this is why it is recommended
to have a
one sure hgv insurance covering you.
“America’s railroads are estimated to be a 1/3 of the
world’s railway. So how can they protect 240,000 km of
railroad … it is practically impossible. The same goes
to Britain, with 18,500 km and France, with 29,473 km.
It is a daunting and almost impossible task to protect
the long railroad length, and yet one of the easiest
to target. That may result to great damage and
destruction on different levels,” al-Qaeda’s “Lone
Jihad Guidance Team” wrote, adding that “it is time
that we instill fear and make them impose strict
security measures to trains as they did with their Air
transportation.”
“We have to expose more of their vulnerabilities in
their security. And when they spend millions of
dollars to tackle a vulnerability we should be ready
to open a new [front]… we expect that there will be no
effective solution to the security gaps that may be
caused by these types of operations that target the
train system.”
The magazine includes 17 pages of step-by-step,
pictorial instructions to make a “derailment tool” of
rebar, reinforced concrete, rubber and sheet metal to
clamp onto a track a suggested 10 minutes before a
train is scheduled to pass.
The Acela is singled out as a high-speed route that
the terror group anticipates would see higher
casualties and damage from the use of the derailment
tool.
“This is the most suited condition for a successful
train derail operation. When a train reaches high
speed then it has to be reduced to around 100 km/h.
This is because a train at a very high speed is hard
to control or manage using brakes. For example
America’s high-speed train ‘Acela’ requires a whole
mile so that it can come to a halt, this is because of
the train’s very high speed. Another reason is that
the train losses weight and stability when it is at
high speeds,” the article states. “Therefore a Mujahid
must be aware of areas where the train increases its
speed and places where the train moves at a high
speed.”
The Inspire issue details, in photos, the specific
types of derailments that jihadists can aim for,
including a train coming off the tracks and striking a
mountain to “attain the desired result,” striking man-
made structures including buildings and bridges, and
falling from elevated tracks.
“Dual operations” are also emphasized, in which a
train carrying hazardous materials can derail in a
populated area — “an issue that makes the different
security agencies sleepless.”
“The transportation committee in America drafted a
report after the events of 9/11 , in which they
mentioned the reality of this breach and how difficult
it is to control. They declared that 83 million tons
of hazardous materials is annually transported by
trains in America. And that these trains pass through
major U.S. cities and thousands of small towns which
are located across the railroad tracks,” the article
continued. “Information concerning the transportation
of these hazardous materials can always be found on
the public domain; or by observing and surveilling the
movements of these Hazmat trains.”
The article includes a map of rail lines from the U.S.
Department of Transportation, including Amtrak,
Norfolk Southern, Union Pacific, BNSF and CSX.
Specific U.S. passenger lines discussed in addition to
the Acela Express are the Amtrak Cascades in the
Pacific Northwest, the Cardinal from New York to
Chicago, the Carolinian from Charlotte to New York
City, the City of New Orleans from Louisiana to
Chicago, the Coast Starlight from Seattle to Los
Angeles, the Crescent from New York City to New
Orleans, the Empire Builder from Chicago to the
Pacific Northwest, the Pacific Surfliner from San
Diego to San Luis Obispo, Calif., the Palmetto from
New York City to Savannah, Ga., the Silver Meteor and
Silver Star from New York City to Miami, the Southwest
Chief from Chicago to Los Angeles, the Sunset Limited
from New Orleans to Los Angeles, and the Texas Eagle
running from Chicago to San Antonio to L.A.
Editor Yahya Ibrahim’s note at the beginning of the
Inspire issue says the development of the derailment
ops was “extensively researched” by the terror group
for more than a year before releasing the DIY
instructions. Ibrahim said the terror group considers
it “to be among the most important issues of the
magazine.”
Chief AQAP bomb maker Ibrahim al-Asiri, a 35-year-old
Saudi, wrote an extensive article for the magazine
issue on targeting transportation in general and
giving lone jihadists “the ability to carry out a
large scale operation using these types of small
resourced operations.”
“The U.S. laid a fifteen-year plan in which it raised
the debt, lowered interest rates and reduced military
expenditure, which will continue for many years to
come. America today is refreshing its efforts to
revive its economy,” he wrote. “And we should continue
to focus our efforts against it until the world gets
rid of this international system led by America.”
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 11:26:31
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Xmas travel MAYHEM thread |
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right after I saw it on the news here at about 8am not too long after it happened, I called my #2 son who is a truck driver and found out that he was stuck in southbound traffic on I-5! He hadn't heard about the train derailment yet so am glad I called him. He said his google traffic app kept trying to tell him to turn around. He knew there was one more off ramp coming up so he did manage to get on that (so I just found out)and get unstuck. They have apparently been able to get folks stuck to turn around and go back to any available alternate routes. Of course those routes are now jammed as well.
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 11:30:59
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: safety concerns were rampant on this new train route... |
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because Amtrak didn't put in appropriate safety measures with traffic that traversed the route. Then the news said that there was either a car or truck that was on the track which caused this accident!!!
The mayor of a nearby town just last week said something to the effect that what if Amtrak sees an accident because they were too cheap to put in those safety measures, how would they feel then?
There were town meetings, lots of concerns expressed so guess we'll be hearing a lot more about Amtrak's malfeasance concerning those issues.
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Date: December 19, 2017 at 12:41:43
From: marja, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: safety concerns were rampant on this new train route... |
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hi sheila, I heard one of the nearby mayors saying this new high speed stretch of 16 miles if I'm correct was not even necessary at the cost of 160 million or something like that ???
it's very ironic in a tragic way this accident took place on the very FIRST day on the new tracks ??
the images were stunning.....
I grew up taking the small village train to my high school, everything was so nice and smooth...
when I was a teenager me and my sister took the interrail from Helsinki to Lisboa , Portugal...
it was so cool and safe...no high speed trains...
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Date: December 20, 2017 at 18:47:18
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Big Oil, Big Auto killed mass transit in this country!!!! |
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you are lucky to not have had Big Oil, Auto corporations in Finland. They are the boyz who always thought we were at our best in a car with millions of miles of roads, they have fought mass tranit in all forms for so many years in this country!! And mostly, they have won, we are now worse than 3rd world countries in mass transit trains that are safe.
The new train route shaved off only 10 minutes from the old route so no, it was never needed an is far more unsafe in the towns it now goes through.
Kinda pisses most of us all that there's no really safe alternatives to cars. :(
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 11:54:23
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: safety concerns were rampant on this new train route... |
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yeah, but thanks for the update on that. Kinda waiting
for all the confusion to calm down to take a good look
at the "wtf happened here?"
Glad you were able to get your son unstuck from the
mess!
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 12:10:48
From: sheila, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: safety concerns were rampant on this new train route... |
URL: http://www.seattlepi.com/seattlenews/article/Mayor-Predict-Amtrak-Crashes-12438820.php#next |
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on a google map, I can see a road that would have access to the train tracks directly where the crash occurred. The report of the cause being either from a car or truck on the tracks came from an official for a train support org. who'd been waiting for the train to arrive in Portland where there was to be a celebration of the new route. There is one large truck left on I-5 which may have been there, don't know that for sure but there's speculation and lots of it on our local news.
The mayor of Lakewood's quote from the article at the link:
At a Dec. 4 meeting, city leaders voiced concerns over 79-mph rail service through the city and near the major interstate, especially for people near the tracks, KOMO News reported.
"We want to make sure as many people as possible understand what's going on, understand we are starting a new service on December 18th and ensure that they know how to stay safe around the railroad tracks," Janet Matkin with WSDOT told KOMO.
Lakewood Mayor Don Anderson told KOMO that it would be only a matter of time before the high-speed trains kill someone, and asked WSDOT officials to make changes to increase safety on the line. Things like overpasses could be used to separate trains and cars and pedestrians.
"Come back when there is that accident, and try to justify not putting in those safety enhancements, or you can go back now and advocate for the money to do it, because this project was never needed and endangers our citizens," Anderson said told KOMO.
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 10:28:44
From: Redhart, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Xmas travel MAYHEM thread |
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Yes, terrible--watching it on the news. Saying prayers
for all those people.
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Date: December 18, 2017 at 11:38:04
From: shatterbrain, [DNS_Address]
Subject: Re: Xmas travel MAYHEM thread |
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Prayers and thoughts for victims and survivors.
Especially bad during this holiday season.
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